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Old Today, 07:44 AM   #7626
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Dark just told me in Shanghai that van loaded out is equivalent of 178k Canadian …. In Shanghai !!!!

Welp, there goes my dream of owning one. That’s insane money.
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Excellent, hopefully sometime in the future I can get the Xiaomi SU7 Pro Max Ultra or whatever equivalent comes out by then. Bring on the Chinese (cars)!
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i think i saw it'll be with a 6% duty, reasonable...

any chance the BYD sedan will come over here and be in that $35k range?
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Wonder if Tesla will bring the Model Y Long into Canada. Most likely they'll probably drop the price on the premium AWD to $58-60K.
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Yea I'm wondering if Tesla will drop price too
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I was hopping for the BYD shark to come to Canada.
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how long does it typically take for the agencies to approve the crash test and safety ratings for NA? Or have most of the BYD and Xiaomi's already recieved approval in North America?

If not, my guess is Polestar and Tesla will be hoarding that quota for the next year or two...I'm looking forward to heavily discounted used teslas when mainlanders switch to china EVs to boost their social credit scores.
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Have most of the BYD and Xiaomi's already recieved approval in North America?
Other than Tesla and Polestar, ZERO domestic models are designed for/have passed North American crash test.
It will take a FULL generation and re-engineering of the crash structure, 2-3 years and 100M+ in cost.

North American crash test is a completely different animal - roof has to be 3X stronger, seatbelts are off in one of the tests, force is 40% higher.

This is super skillful diplomacy - it gives China a W without pissing off the US too much.
If we actually wanted to see Chinese EV, Carney would say "we accept european crash test"
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I thought I saw somewhere Europe crash test is already Canada crash test. Euro cars come here with no modification
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Other than Tesla and Polestar, ZERO domestic models are designed for/have passed North American crash test.
It will take a FULL generation and re-engineering of the crash structure, 2-3 years and 100M+ in cost.

North American crash test is a completely different animal - roof has to be 3X stronger, seatbelts are off in one of the tests, force is 40% higher.

This is super skillful diplomacy - it gives China a W without pissing off the US too much.
If we actually wanted to see Chinese EV, Carney would say "we accept european crash test"
Second this. The 50,000units or whatever would end up mostly MIC Tesla being imported here.

It takes time to setup distribution channels, dealership and everything. Unless there's some clause in there that assures whatever happens after 50k, no one but Tesla can benefit from this quickly.
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Given how both china and canada are very much anti trump and anti elon right now, i dont think they'll give it to Tesla... i could very much be wrong, but i dont think they'll let the world's biggest functional retard have his way.

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I didn't know that the Buick Envision and the Lincoln Nautilus and quite a few other Chevy and Ford products were made in China. I think the Ford Everest is pretty cool looking. I saw them all over the place in Thailand.
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I thought I saw somewhere Europe crash test is already Canada crash test. Euro cars come here with no modification
Most European cars are now designed both for FMVSS and ECE.
Sometimes the bumpers are stil different, like on MB coupe and convertible.

The Chinese EV sold in Europe are designed for ECE only.
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Feel like lucid will kick the bucket in the next 3 years once the Saudi investors get tired of losses. Nice cars but no sales and not enough time to rollout the mid market vehicles in current market conditions.
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