Electric and Hybrid Car Thread

[Badhobz]

ive gone full lesbian karen now hahaha

but to be honest if you ask the general public they dont give a shit. they would still see the tesla as a much better buy if both cars were 50k (base model bz/solterra vs model y stripper edition).

[bcrdukes]

Tesla too mainstream. Gotta go against the grain with a Solterra!

[Dbone]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

slave labour in china was more of a thing 20 years ago, they dont need suicide nets anymore..shit it's probably more automated than what north america has

While I agree it's getting better, slave labour is still a thing. Maybe less in the factories (though BYD disagrees: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3v5n7w55kpo) the point was more about their supply chain. From what I've read, they don't seem to care if it's kids digging up the cobalt or not.

Anyway, I don't want to pretend my shit doesn't stink. The industry I've been working in for the past few years has it's own battles to keep it's supply chain clear of this sort of thing. It's a struggle.

[6793026]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

So the wife’s been driving the lezbaru around and it’s great in the city. I took it to work two days and then she had it for the rest of the week. She went to her dad’s and did a whole bunch of errands and came home last night and still had 62% charge.

We used the level 1 last night and this morning it’s back to 75%. Pretty damn good.

Plenty of range and charges fast enough on the level 1.

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

I've been saying that 120v is enough to charge for years but ppl have range anxiety for the 1 road trip they do a year. + Its not hard to stop at a super charger.

Depends on where you are at. GVRD yes. For calgary and GTA - getting a pack of gum is going to be a 14 km drive each way. Running errands to costco and back is 60km which is a good 6 hr charge.

So i get about 8-10% charge over night... so it's 1% an hr give or take on a 120V.

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Tesla too mainstream. Gotta go against the grain with a Solterra!

but tesla is a 'premium' car - as per Karensssssssss

[bcrdukes]

"Think of all the innovation and human progress!

[yray]

my wife told me to STFU with comparing the solterra with the EQE

[bcrdukes]

lol why

[Traum]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Tesla too mainstream. Gotta go against the grain with a Solterra!

In Richmond (around the Chinese mall areas, at least), the bZ / Solterra has actually become fairly common. Granted, Model 3/Y are still the dominant EV by a long shot, but since the days when a huge factory rebate/discount was slapped onto the pre-facelifed bZ / Solterra, they have been popping up with increasing frequency. And now with the latest round of rebate+discount, I have no doubt we'll see more of them around (although I suspect it'll be more bZ than Solterra).

Another EV that I've seen a lot more lately is the Fiat 500e. I'd never trust a Fiat for reliability, but with those $39/week leases, I guess many people are willing to roll the dice.

It is a shame that from 2 (or maybe 3?) years ago when Polestar offered a 12 months $299/month lease deal on the Polestar 2, it didn't seem to have resulted in too many more of those cars getting on the road. I can't imagine how the PS2 isn't a better EV than the 500e, even when it is slightly more expensive.

[JDMDreams]

What do you have? Model 3 here on 120v gets about 8-10 kmh depends on your electricity load. So a 10h overnight charge is at least 80-100 km. In Van that's enough round trip for like Van to Langley daily. Or North Van to Surrey?

Originally Posted by 6793026

Depends on where you are at. GVRD yes. For calgary and GTA - getting a pack of gum is going to be a 14 km drive each way. Running errands to costco and back is 60km which is a good 6 hr charge.

So i get about 8-10% charge over night... so it's 1% an hr give or take on a 120V.

but tesla is a 'premium' car - as per Karensssssssss

[JDMDreams]

You know what I'm surprised I don't see more of? The Rz, it looks pretty cool, premium compared to the brokie ones and people love rx. So why would you not want the Lexus version of it. I remember sitting in it in the auto show and recall it's not bad, at least better materials than Toyota cloth plastic.

Especially in that gold copper colour



Do they still have that cheap 500e deal anymore? I thought it was over I don't see it advertised I wouldn't mind a cheap city car.

Still waiting for cheap EV charger deals, I see dealers drop prices but don't see any good offers?

[JDMDreams]

I thought you said you hated the toyoda maga faggot that actually supported the Iran war

Originally Posted by Badhobz

anyone who buys a tesla is directly funding terrorism in my books. fuck that elon faggot.

[Badhobz]

cuz the RZ is insanely expensive with no real discounts and a bat shit insane lease rate.

That being said, i finally figured out why my solterra has all these features. because its cheaper for toyota (who builds all of these in their Aichi plant) to make one car for the Solterra/BZ/RZ and just change the badge but keep the remaining interior components more or less uniform.

Thats why the Solterra even gets the Auto Parking / 360 degree camera / lane trace (self driving) features off the RZ. Its not worth it for them to remove these features and probably more cost efficent to buy loads of these modules and spread the cost over 2 automakers / 3 models.

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

I thought you said you hated the toyoda maga faggot that actually supported the Iran war

ANother reason to buy the Lezbaru instead! at least only 30% of the profits go to that little nip instead of all of it...

[Traum]

I think you don't see the (Lexus) Rz all that often bcos the brokie FWD version still asks for $63k to start, and no self-respecting Lexus owner / wannabe would pay that much just to have a hopped up bZ, esp in recent times when the bZ has been so heavily discounted (or with rebates).

And then the next level up is the $70k AWD. You can get an TMY dual motor for less than that, and it is a waaaay better EV than the Lexus is, even though it is a dime a dozen out on the road.

The cheap 500e deal came up again recently, with prices ranging from $39 - $59/week, but I think all (or at least most?) of those cars have been scooped up. A friend picked up a rose gold one up for his wife.

[Badhobz]

yeah i wanted a fiat 500e for lawls before i bought the Lezbaru. I saw it was 35 bucks a week, but i called around and they were all sold.

Upon reading reddit, i discovered people were paying actually closer to 55-65 a week (220-260 a month)... at that price its not as appetizing given the range limitations, tiny interior, lackluster performance, etc.

[RabidRat]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

the Solterra even gets the Auto Parking / .

Wtf it has auto park?! Does it do parallel parking ok? Might be a game changer for my wife lol

[Badhobz]

it does yes... and it works really fucking well.

Can pull into and out of parking spaces and parallel park.

You can select it to either back into a spot, or head into a spot. Then when youre done, it can automatically back itself out, or drive out of the spot.

Same with parallel parking.

Like i said, im blown away at how many features are on this damn car for the same price a month as a base model corolla LE. Deal of the century here. my inner chinaman has cummed so hard, he's completely deflated.

[yray]

ohh fuck, another point to jab at the EQE

[Hehe]

The whole charging thing is meh. Given the rise of EV, there has been quite a bit of development on charging solutions. The biggest problem used to be that many houses don't have the needed amperage on their breaker box to support it and require a $$$ upgrade to hydro service. But that's no longer the case.

If one has enough amp, a NEMA 14-50 can be installed for a couple of hundred bucks assuming you stay within no more than 10fts of the breaker. Anything more than that, find another electrician. A charger that runs directly into the breaker box is a hundred or 2 more.

If you don't have enough amp, one could install a smart splitter to the dryer plug. Again, for a few hundred bucks.

If one is really GD hoader cheap, you can always just get 2 hot wires to do a 240v NEMA6-20P. The receptacle is less than $20 and it's DIY-able. This would still be more than 2x better than a regular 110v plug.

[Badhobz]

or just charge at 120v. good enough for most!

[noclue]

Gas in Vancouver probably gonna breach $2/L

[6793026]

Originally Posted by noclue

Gas in Vancouver probably gonna breach $2/L

everyone in richmond is filling up with premium not surprised if it already hit $2 a while ago LOL

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

What do you have? Model 3 here on 120v gets about 8-10 kmh depends on your electricity load. So a 10h overnight charge is at least 80-100 km. In Van that's enough round trip for like Van to Langley daily. Or North Van to Surrey?

Here's the thing about EV versus gas - gas is 1km drop at a time. you know ur tank is easily 400km or 500km on highway. EV would / could drop 20km range if i punched it too hard on a highway going 140km/h + heat + -15 in GTA. Now on gas.. i just don't give an F cause i'll just fill up. For EV, i have to wait to charge which being an anal retentive conservative person, i freak out.

[whitev70r]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

yeah i wanted a fiat 500e for lawls before i bought the Lezbaru. I saw it was 35 bucks a week, but i called around and they were all sold.

Upon reading reddit, i discovered people were paying actually closer to 55-65 a week (220-260 a month)... at that price its not as appetizing given the range limitations, tiny interior, lackluster performance, etc.

Here's an advertised $49/week one but it does require $2000 down.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1Z7S2beLHF/

$49/WEEK +FEES&TAXES
$2000 DOWNPAYMENT
+DUE AT SIGNING COSTS

[JDMDreams]

It's already over $1.8 during the day yesterday, I think I saw $1.6 few nights ago. But yea drill bady drill, wheres the maduro oil? I hope muricans enjoy the they new gas cars they be buying

[twitchyzero]

Originally Posted by Dbone

While I agree it's getting better, slave labour is still a thing. Maybe less in the factories (though BYD disagrees: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3v5n7w55kpo) the point was more about their supply chain. From what I've read, they don't seem to care if it's kids digging up the cobalt or not.

Anyway, I don't want to pretend my shit doesn't stink. The industry I've been working in for the past few years has it's own battles to keep it's supply chain clear of this sort of thing. It's a struggle.

not sure on the exact numbers but most EVs regardless of hq location or country of origin who aren't contracted for korean cells are more likely than not to be sourcing from china

maybe RZD has more insight and which automaker orders from CATL et al

seems like a bigger pivot since 2022/2023 towards chinese batteries to get costs down

[AstulzerRZD]

idk i haven't been looking in to the supply chain shit that much
i just drive em on road trips so my girlfriend won't complain about the gas engine noise when i'm ripping it!

i really want someone to tell me wtf is going on with the full pack recalls (LG for Hyundai/Kia/Chevrolet and now the 4XE batteries).
is the battery supplier paying for the recall costs or is the automaker

i'm also super curious when for'ds gona drop their 30k ev pickup and their new ER-EV lightning.
also looking for some signal to see how Wagoneer ER-EV is doing.