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			even white cost you 1300? what colour is free?
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			im guessing red or black?
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					Originally Posted by  asian_XL     even white cost you 1300? what colour is free?   |       They know their market.  
Its no coincidence that like 7 out of 10 cars in Richmond are white.   
I regret getting white myself.
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			The long range battery for 12k is a pretty ridiculous asking price.
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					Originally Posted by  Teriyaki     The long range battery for 12k is a pretty ridiculous asking price.   |       Math tells me that it's about more than 2 years worth of gas...  
I also wonder how long it takes to charge it, and how much heavier the car is.
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			Tesla not fairing so well in the markets recently.    Quote:    | 
			
				Moody's downgraded Tesla's credit ratings Tuesday and changed its outlook to negative from stable, citing "significant shortfall" in the Model 3 production rate and a tight financial situation.
			
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			$65k for a Model3 hahahahahaha there's going to be a lot of pissed off people who can't do math and don't understand exchange rates or are automobile n00bs and don't realize how shafted Canada almost always gets on car prices... they all thought they'd be buying an electric for $35k... that's a fucking ridiculous price...    
The 'entry level' electric car... entry level for who?   
"But I'll save gas!"   
Buy a Civic, better build quality and you'd have to drive it around the world 10 times to even come close to spending the difference on gas.   
Tesla's sales model for cars is a joke, good thing it's an inside joke since they're actually a battery company, not a car company and that's where they're going to make all their money in the future -- selling battery systems to everyone as all the other manufacturers convert.
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			how's 35k ridiculous? isn't that leaf or bolt territory? 
but yeah 60k i'd rather buy a used model S if their batteries hold decent charge
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			Because it’s impossivle to get it for 35k   
Feel better about not putting down a deposit now. Could almost buy a used model S for the same price if u were so inclined
		    
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			#286  |     |      Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!  
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			Well, you can't get negotiate the prices on new Teslas because they don't have dealers. You just pay the MSRP.
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			saw one at market xing one day   
nice for 35k  
not nice for 65k lol
		    
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			#288  |     |      I have named my kids VIC and VLS   
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					Originally Posted by  UnknownJinX     Well, you can't get negotiate the prices on new Teslas because they don't have dealers. You just pay the MSRP.   |       not about negotiation, when the deposits were taken most seemed to be under the assumption that you'd be getting a base model for around 35k   
clearly with some options and the canadian exchange rate you're looking at closer to 50, and in the case above, 65 rather than 35 and a few thousand of options.
		     
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			I think the long-range battery is pointless unless you want to go on a road trip past chiliwack/bellingham/squamish.   
If you can get past the looks/brand image, the bolt/clarity seems like the better buy.
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					Originally Posted by  Qmx323     They know their market.   
Its no coincidence that like 7 out of 10 cars in Richmond are white.    
I regret getting white myself.   |       That's how Tesla does colours.  A friend bought a Model S and here's how it works:  You HAVE to pick a colour and you HAVE to pay for it.  There's no default colour or $0 option.  If you want a Model S you have to pay for a colour.  If you don't pay for a colour you don't buy the car.  Simple as that.
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			And theirs this:   Tesla Bankruptcy: Why This Wall Streeter Thinks It Will Happen | Fortune 
Also all the Tesla model S cars p100, p90, p85 have the same size battery pack.  They just gimp the battery with software.  Wonder if it's the same with the model 3.
		     
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			If Tesla did leave the market for whatever reason I would think the value of the existing cars would tank even harder than if a conventional car manufacturer disappears (ie Saturn or Pontiac). $65k for a stepping stone car that may end up worthless seems like a bad idea to me, unless you're so loaded it doesn't matter.
		    
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			Everyone I know with a model S has a lease. Seems like the way to go with these cars
		    
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			#294  |     |      Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!  
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					Originally Posted by  Hondaracer     not about negotiation, when the deposits were taken most seemed to be under the assumption that you'd be getting a base model for around 35k    
clearly with some options and the canadian exchange rate you're looking at closer to 50, and in the case above, 65 rather than 35 and a few thousand of options.   |       Ah, that makes sense.   
Damn, that's not an economy EV at all. A fully optioned Accord is like CAN $42k MSRP.     Quote:     
					Originally Posted by  noclue     I think the long-range battery is pointless unless you want to go on a road trip past chiliwack/bellingham/squamish.   
If you can get past the looks/brand image, the bolt/clarity seems like the better buy.   |       Or wait for the shoebox rotary range extender LOL.  
If I have to get a short-range EV, I think I will pick the e-Golf, which looks exactly like a Golf, just with shitty looking wheels(easy to fix anyway). The new Leaf doesn't look terrible, either.     Quote:     
					Originally Posted by  underscore     If Tesla did leave the market for whatever reason I would think the value of the existing cars would tank even harder than if a conventional car manufacturer disappears (ie Saturn or Pontiac). $65k for a stepping stone car that may end up worthless seems like a bad idea to me, unless you're so loaded it doesn't matter.   |       I mean Saturn and Pontiac were both under GM, and GM still exists, so I don't think you are completely SOL when it comes to support.  
If Tesla tanks, yeah that will be different. Good luck finding parts for it.
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			there's so few parts on a vehicle built ground-up as an EV though 
doesn't get more mickey mouse than Model 3
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					Originally Posted by  Hondaracer     not about negotiation, when the deposits were taken most seemed to be under the assumption that you'd be getting a base model for around 35k    
clearly with some options and the canadian exchange rate you're looking at closer to 50, and in the case above, 65 rather than 35 and a few thousand of options.   |       I believe it was $35k USD, which is $45.2k CAD according to today's exchange rate.  
$20k in options is what's pushing it to $65k
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					Originally Posted by  twitchyzero     how's 35k ridiculous? isn't that leaf or bolt territory? 
but yeah 60k i'd rather buy a used model S if their batteries hold decent charge   |       Know a guy who works at Tesla Hong Kong, he shows me his own Model S 60 with 70k km, it can still last 90%+ of the claim mileage. He has serviced a uber P85 with 160k and its range lasted no less than 90%.  
yes, if 60k, I would buy a pre-owned one from Tesla. Also, checked out some used Nissan Leaf and they have changed battery before 40k km.
		         
					
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					Originally Posted by  freakshow     what would you guys do? 
]   |       After pricing everything out is was like $64k + tax.   . At that point i'd consider a used model S with 8 year unlimited mile warranty.
		     
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			I guess the 1 saving grace if you’re driving a POS beater between scrapit and the government you can get $11,000 off the price... still...        |       
		
		
		
		
		 
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					Originally Posted by  asian_XL     Know a guy who works at Tesla Hong Kong, he shows me his own Model S 60 with 70k km, it can still last 90%+ of the claim mileage. He has serviced a uber P85 with 160k and its range lasted no less than 90%.   
yes, if 60k, I would buy a pre-owned one from Tesla. Also, checked out some used Nissan Leaf and they have changed battery before 40k km.   |       Wow, driving as an UBER racked up 160K KMs on a 3 year old car...in HK?
		     
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