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I’m at the Tesla dealer today as a friend is picking his model 3.

They just announced today that bc incentives are cut from 5000 to 3000. But the place is a complete zoo. Probably 100ppl waiting for delivery.

Last time it was early in the morning so I didn’t see so much crowd. But it’s insane the lines here. Almost like a new iPhone selling on day 1. But for a car that’s over 50k. Nuts

^Lots of people “saving money” :rukidding:

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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8951666)

Did your friend get the old amount?
My friend ordered a 3 and they finally had her car ready yesterday, unfortunately same day they cut the incentive. She couldn't get the old incentive amount Eve though she ordered weeks ago.

Ugh your friend should talk to tesla cuz they obviously don't know what they're talking about.

Vehicles that were bought or reserved during the previous incentive programs will still qualify for the higher rebates.

was curious so optioned out an model Y AWD (450 km) white interior red paint and base everything else...77k before incentives

can't believe the only alternative is the Kona...Toyobaru's FoRAVster EV please save our souls

I wanted to get the Model Y and I just sold my gas guzzling Chevy Crewcab. None of the Kona's or Hyundai's interest me. What to buy?

A cheap, used fuel efficient car until the Y comes out.

Got this in an email from Tesla.

CEVforBC Rebates Changes:

As of June 22, 2019, the CEVforBC rebate is $3,000 for Model 3 Standard Range and Standard Range Plus
Individuals can only receive one CEVforBC incentive over the life of the new program
If your order was placed before June 22, 2019, old program rules apply ($5,000 on Model 3 SR, SR+, LR RWD, LR AWD)
All rebates are applied at time of delivery, should funds and program be available
Tesla is unable to reserve funds as your VIN is not finalized until delivery

Performance model seems to be cheaper in Hong Kong than in the States. Tesla Hong Kong even offers free charger installation which cost like 3K. I couldn't believe I ordered the performance rather than the cheaper AWD model.

http://i64.tinypic.com/f069zn.jpg

not bad, but US has better infrastructure

i have no clue why telsa supercharge stations are laying on their ass here compared to USA.

Telus is sitting up their own charge stations in different area's of BC to get in on the $$$

geeez...white is standard colour, which is nice. Performance model is at USD54K and it comes performance option standard.

LOL~

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/15/tesl...l-3-goals.html

- Tesla produced a record 72,531 Model 3 electric sedans in the second quarter of 2019.
- Employees in the open-air GA4 “tent,” which is not fully automated, tell CNBC they were pressured to take shortcuts to hit goals — reducing vehicle testing for water leaks and using electrical tape on plastic housings to make quick fixes during Model 3 assembly.
- Employees in the tent say they have also had to work through harsh weather and unhealthy air quality.

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/imag...ape2square.jpg
A photograph sent by a Tesla employee showing how electrical tape was used during Model 3 assembly.

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/imag...oose_wires.jpg
Tesla workers said they sometimes skipped installation of certain bolts, nuts or lugs in a rush to hit their Model 3 production goals.

ZF's designing a 2 speed transmission for electric cars...

https://jalopnik.com/heres-zfs-new-t...ars-1836428183

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Pretty much all mainstream electric cars integrate their electric motors with single-speed, often 10:1-ish gear reductions, mostly because it’s cheap and easy, and it works. But now, the German transmission company that changed the industry with the now-ubiquitous eight-speed automatic is showing off an electric drive unit with multiple speeds. Two, to be exact.

In its press release, ZF refers to its new contraption as a “2-speed electric drive.” Like a Tesla drive unit, it integrates an electric motor with power electronics and a gear reduction all in a single unit, except instead of a single-speed reduction as is common among EV manufacturers (EV supercar maker Rimac does offer multiple speeds, and so do some Formula E cars), there are two ratios.

ZF claims the new unit, can provide “up to” a 5 percent increase in range when compared to a single-speed unit, though the transmission manufacturer doesn’t go into detail on that figure, though it does stress the “integrated” nature of the setup as key to improvements energy conversion efficiency.

Perhaps more importantly, the two-stage shift element should allow for an automaker to better trade off acceleration and top speed. From ZF’s press release:

The 2-speed concept offers benefits for OEMs who are pursuing performance. “Until now, with electric motors, vehicle manufacturers have had to choose between high initial torque and a high top speed”, explains Hellwig. “We are now resolving this conflict and the new drive will be compatible for performance and heavier vehicles – for example for passenger cars towing a trailer.”

ZF mentions both a 140 kW as well as a 250 kW unit, saying the modular nature of the two-speed e-drive allows it to be “fine-tuned and scaled up.” As for the shift strategy, ZF has some pretty unconventional ideas. From its press release:

Shifts take place at 70 km/h. By connecting to the vehicle’s CAN communication it is also possible – if the customer so wishes – to devise other shift strategies, possibly linked to digital map material and GPS. For example, the vehicle could identify from the GPS route programming how far it is to the next charging station, enabling it to respond predictively by switching into Eco-mode. More effective shifts would also be possible in accounting for topography on the interstate, and on inter-city journeys. The software in the drive can also be updated thanks to the network link to Cloud services via over-the-air updates.

It’s an interesting setup, and I’m curious to see if any mainstream automakers will think it’s worth the cost, since single-speed units seem to do just fine, as electric motors have ample low-end torque, high enough revs, and good enough efficiency across the power band to make do with just one gear ratio. You can learn more about why most EVs use a single gear in Engineering Explained’s YouTube video below:

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8953897)

Tesla workers said they sometimes skipped installation of certain bolts, nuts or lugs in a rush to hit their Model 3 production goals.

crap build quality as a result of rushed production has been beaten to death here, but owners claim it's only the very launch vehicles in 2017

but credit where due, if you look back enough pages i said the 35k usd base model wouldn't ship in Canada until 2019 given Model X's track record...at least they delivered on that promise

where i was wrong was predicting there would be other affordable equivalents by then like Honda Civic etc.

For the folks that ordered their Tesla's, did you guys opt for the full self driving option?

Price seems pretty steep and it only going to get higher.

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Originally Posted by TypeRNammer (Post 8955689)

For the folks that ordered their Tesla's, did you guys opt for the full self driving option?

Price seems pretty steep and it only going to get higher.

No. I don't do very much highway driving so I opted to not get FSD or AP.

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Originally Posted by TypeRNammer (Post 8955689)

For the folks that ordered their Tesla's, did you guys opt for the full self driving option?

Price seems pretty steep and it only going to get higher.

Both a friend and I bought the M3 and neither wanted the option. We figured that we would be trading them in when the warranty was getting near the expiry date and by then there would be big changes in the newer cars and most likely the option would be included.

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Originally Posted by TypeRNammer (Post 8955689)

For the folks that ordered their Tesla's, did you guys opt for the full self driving option?

Price seems pretty steep and it only going to get higher.

Get it after delivery in the Tesla account unless you plan to finance the FSD.

Come on Toyota!!! Bring me a model s competitor already. Or a corolla ev.

I ain't buying some shit held together with electrical tape/missing bolts/ and has misaligned doors.

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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8955728)

Get it after delivery in the Tesla account unless you plan to finance the FSD.

Another good reason to get these after purchase is you don't have to pay the additional luxury tax on them that way.

Forbes: A Tesla Accelerator Pedal Snapped Off While Driving—This Isn't The First Time It's Happened.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lianeyv...-its-happened/

i remember snapped pedals was a thing for the Evo X, then again it was based on a $16k economy car, not a fucking $100k luxury "SUV" :fuckthatshit:

should've bought the part from mercedes

:lol