But we can't really compare a corolla to a model 3 in terms of features, creature comfort, feel and finish.

Exactly... I have a friend who just took delivery of a Model3... the husband drives 5km to/from work every day and the rationale is to save money through government rebates, gas and he can charge for free at work in the daytime.

They're selling their current vehicle, a super low mileage Toyota Matrix to make room for it.

I asked her to explain how spending $50k+ on a new Tesla saves money on driving an already paid for Matrix that will never have problems... especially given he drives 10km a day tops. Silence... and then some mumbling about gas prices.

It's a lifestyle choice. Pure and simple. I want something new... I want something shiny... I want to play with tech. And that's totally fine, their choice, I just wish people would be honest about it.

Why not? What does a base Model3 have that a base Corolla doesn't nowadays besides some of the phone control tech Tesla puts in their cars? We're not in an era where base cars have manual windows and locks anymore. Air conditioning? Okay, go up to the Corolla LE at $21,700 then...

While the 3 doesn't have the best fit and finish, the materials used is still better than that of the corolla but I do hear where you're coming from. Just saying maybe something bit more upscale like the Mazda 3 maybe more comparable

Yah bro, the Tesla would loose out due to Toyota safety sense 2.0 being standard on even the base models :fuckyea:

You drive a Corolla?

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Dude badhobz LOVES Corollas... it's his 2nd favourite car after the SC430

Isn't the heat from inrush current usually what's harder on motors than runtime? I know the ones I deal with from time to time have each startup equal to X number of running hours (maintenance wise) and if you start it up too many times in an hour it locks out until it's been given enough time to cool. I assume they must do something to keep the magnetic field from collapsing otherwise city driving would nuke these things pretty fast.

Which they aren't at most of the time. I would think if you could gear it down it could run closer to top speed all the time and gain efficiency, but maybe not enough to offset the added weight and driveline losses.

10km/day, say 10L/100km, even at $2/L that'll take 96 years to pay off with fuel savings :heckno:

Will you marry me ?! :heckno:

I'm not talking about wear and tear from the spinning. I'm talking about wear and tear from spinning at high RPM while taking jolts from the road. I don't think these fans you're talking about would last 25 years if they were constantly shaken hard while in operation.

BC ferries uses electric motors to drive the ferries. Also cars use electric fans and those seem to last.

Do they go 18k RPM? Things go out of balanced in the car all the time like drive shafts. They start to wobble and vibrate. The faster they spin, the more it vibrates eventually destroying itself. Think of your washing machine on the spin cycle when the balance is off. If the motor becomes unbalanced after hitting a pothole, you may not notice it at first but it'll eventually wreck itself. It'll get there faster at higher RPMs. If the motor runs at a lower RPM through the use of a transmission, it may last a lot longer.

You have never done one in a Tesla I assume?

The Tesla nav is so good that it can plan everything for you... including the supercharger point you should stop. No range anxiety... I mean, in the city maybe... but not in a roadtrip.

My Dyson spins at 120,000RPM and it had been going strong for the last 3yrs I've owned it... used daily too.

Things get wonky in ICE because of the combustion... everytime it ignites, you are degrading the engine. Electrical motors work on a very different principle. They are not perfect, but they cannot be compared apple to apple.

but the model 3 isn't competing with a base model corrola, a better comparison would be the accord.

Good thing the Tesla does not have a traditional drive shaft.

https://www.sae.org/dlymagazineimage...9493_10999.JPG

Neither does a washing machine.... Things that spin that fast need to be perfectly balanced. You may not notice an out of balanced tire when it's rotating slowly like while driving in the city and it'll probably last forever but you sure notice it on the highway. Spin that tire to 18k rpm and your wheel bearing is gone.

Again, it's not experiencing any violent lateral shocks to the motor while in operation so not an apples to apples comparison.

Lateral shocks are relative. I don't think the amount of G I'm putting on my Dyson why suddenly moving it up and down or side to side or even rotational movement while vacuuming at full speed is any less than what a Tesla would experience (again, relatively speaking) while going on the road. If anything, I'd say that my Dyson experience significantly higher degree of shocks, and yet, it works just fine.

Looks like it actually is a problem. I'd be interested to find out if these cars with motor failures were mainly city or highway miles.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors...n_tesla_motor/

Model 3 Slayer!

Why did they use the AWD and not the performance version of the model 3 in the video?

It's likely a friend's, and not a press car. So it's whoever's car they can scare up.

This, no press Tesla in Canada

The performance version comes in AWD too that’s what my friend has...

Helping in-laws to gather infos.

Any recommended electrician to install a charger? (either Nema or Tesla Wall charger)

TIA!

Don't know if its mentioned but BC government offers free chargers.Just pay for electrician

https://zapbc.ca/

Edit: sorry nvm it just ended