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Old 04-29-2016, 08:48 AM   #26
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Regarding the slaughter issue, they still use the bolt to render them insensible prior to cutting the throat... pretty much standard issue.

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Cows killed using the Halal method is probably the most inhumane method ever.
i needed to see this for some reason...probably not the best idea while i'm eating breakfast but now i know.
i never knew that halal had to be done a certain method, i thought some dude just prayed over the meat during the process lol

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I like inhumane beef, the pain & stress tastes delicious.
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I like inhumane beef, the pain & stress tastes delicious.
If I can't taste the pain I throw the rest in the garbage.
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fck these people making it a big deal, beef is beef, sounds like business to me.

Earls should not be receiving all this scrutiny
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I can understand from the point of view of the Alberta meat producer that Earl's decision does have an impact on their bottom line. Alberta's economy is hurting right now with the low oil prices. -losing some business from Earl's can certainly hurt their economy.

Talk about people having a "beef" about the beef.
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The whole time reading this thread all I keep picturing is this.....


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So.... how much does a fucking burger cost at Earls now then after switching to a different beef? 20 bucks?!
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Government pawns sending out angry tweets because they're losing out on tax dollars. Well they damn well should pretend to give a shit, but how is that news?

If an associate treats them to a free lunch at Earls, I'm going to guess they'll show up anyways when the news dies down.

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To each their own, but I'm not a promoter of Halal meats and won't be ordering any beef products from Earl's for that reason. I don't mind other people who enjoy it for religious or whatever reasons though, it's just not for me.
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To each their own, but I'm not a promoter of Halal meats and won't be ordering any beef products from Earl's for that reason. I don't mind other people who enjoy it for religious or whatever reasons though, it's just not for me.
why not? as Jason pointed out..


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Some Muslims and Jews think it you stun an animal first it's not the traditional method. So some slaughter houses do not stun the animal first.

Halal meat is also a major sin in the Sikh religion. Sikhs are not even spouse to go to restaurants that serve Halal.
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Some Muslims and Jews think it you stun an animal first it's not the traditional method. So some slaughter houses do not stun the animal first.

Halal meat is also a major sin in the Sikh religion. Sikhs are not even spouse to go to restaurants that serve Halal.
actually sikh's aren't supposed to eat meat at all..
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To each their own, but I'm not a promoter of Halal meats and won't be ordering any beef products from Earl's for that reason. I don't mind other people who enjoy it for religious or whatever reasons though, it's just not for me.
Earls meat isn't halal. It is just supplied from the same ranch that that also provides halal meats. Halal argument was used by some troll comment that deduced halal meat? Earls supports terrorist.
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actually sikh's aren't supposed to eat meat at all..
Not true. But many Sikhs choose not to eat meat.

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The Akal Takht represents the final authority on controversial issues concerning the Sikh Panth, in this regard the issue of meat eating has been settled. Hukamnama issued by Akal Takht Jathedar Sandhu Singh Bhaura dated February 15th 1980 that Amritdhari Sikhs can eat meat as long as it is jhatka meat and that eating meat does not go against the code of conduct, Kurehit, of the Sikhs. Thus a Sikh cannot be excommunicated for eating meat.
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^^^ so up to 1980 it was a contentious issue?

Didn't know that it was against the rules for Sikh to eat Halal/Kosher, that's interesting

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Actually, upon reading more, it doesn't sound like you're not allowed to eat Halal/kosher meat, but rather the idea of it being better is rejected... Anyway, interesting topic

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And one semitic practice clearly rejected in the Sikh code of conduct is eating flesh of an animal cooked in ritualistic manner; this would mean kosher and halal meat. The reason again does not lie in religious tenet but in the view that killing an animal with a prayer is not going to enoble the flesh. No ritual, whoever conducts it, is going to do any good either to the animal or to the diner. Let man do what he must to assuage his hunger. If what he gets, he puts to good use and shares with the needy, then it is well used and well spent, otherwise not.

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The steaks have definitely been raised with this move.

With Earl's chucking them aside, Alberta must've felt like they've been T-boned and roasted.
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^^^ so up to 1980 it was a contentious issue?

Didn't know that it was against the rules for Sikh to eat Halal/Kosher, that's interesting

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The steaks have definitely been raised with this move.

With Earl's chucking them aside, Alberta must've felt like they've been T-boned and roasted.
Well done.
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Haven't eat in Earl's or those chain food places for years and years..... The food is overprice and the taste is below average.

Rather eat at home or small restaurant.
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If you've watched the documentary "cooked" on Netflix the host who is a doctor has an interesting take on modern comercial meat production, basically says it's the biggest atrocity of the modern man in how we are basically forced to treat/raise animals to meet demand

As a lifelong hunter I always get fucking pissed when anyone who eats meat tries to take a stab at hunting. Obviously ignorant to the process that their meat takes to get to the table.

Last 3 deers I've taken, none of them took a step, and all were dead by the time I walked up to them. Shitty life they lived though, growing up free in the forest, going and eating what and where they want. How cruel of me
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