WTF happen to the gas price?

[Mr.HappySilp]

Seems like it jump over the weekends to 1.41/L. Likely to stay this way for the next few weeks (or will it ever come down.).

What happen?

[MarkyMark]

Refinery maintenance and whatever else they wanna call it to raise prices. Who cares we're all rich anyways what's an extra 10 bucks at the pump when we're buying million dollar shoeboxes.

[originalhypa]

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

Refinery maintenance and whatever else they wanna call it to raise prices. Who cares we're all rich anyways what's an extra 10 bucks at the pump when we're buying million dollar shoeboxes.

lol, ain't that the truth.
ICBC is raising prices along with Hydro and Terasen gas. Cost of food is going up, cost of gas has going up, and everyone is way over a responsible debt level.

When will the shit hit the fan?

[Sid Vicious]

Originally Posted by originalhypa

lol, ain't that the truth.
ICBC is raising prices along with Hydro and Terasen gas. Cost of food is going up, cost of gas has going up, and everyone is way over a responsible debt level.

When will the shit hit the fan?

i've been travelling recently and i'm always a little surprised at how expensive food is in canada. and i'm not talking about places with lower costs of living, but food in europe seems way cheaper and better quality as well.

combined that with high telecom costs, i figure it's getting shittier and shittier to be a middle class canadian as time goes on

[Liquid_o2]

Originally Posted by originalhypa

lol, ain't that the truth.
ICBC is raising prices along with Hydro and Terasen gas. Cost of food is going up, cost of gas has going up, and everyone is way over a responsible debt level.

When will the shit hit the fan?

I seriously don't understand how an average young couple with children makes do anymore in this city.

91 gas is killing me right now... $1.60 a liter

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by originalhypa

When will the shit hit the fan?

When the Canucks lose the next game 7 in the Stanley Cup Final?

Pretty much the only time anyone gives a fuck.

[Spoon]

#bikelanes

[roastpuff]

I've lived outside of Vancouver, and I actually like it better out there. Less crowded, less stress, lower cost of living (for the most part) and more recreational opportunities that aren't overrun by hordes of people on the weekend.

Girlfriend is stuck in the "must stay in Vancouver to be close to parents" mindset and it's really starting to bug me. Vancouver isn't affordable if you're not making a six-figure income, and even with a six-figure income, it's incredibly soul-sucking.

[MarkyMark]

Originally Posted by Liquid_o2

I seriously don't understand how an average young couple with children makes do anymore in this city.

91 gas is killing me right now... $1.60 a liter

Mom and Dad. And if it's not mom and dad, it's not giving a fuck about debt knowing the inheritance of mom and dad will bail them out eventually.

[Spoon]

Originally Posted by roastpuff

I've lived outside of Vancouver, and I actually like it better out there. Less crowded, less stress, lower cost of living (for the most part) and more recreational opportunities that aren't overrun by hordes of people on the weekend.

Girlfriend is stuck in the "must stay in Vancouver to be close to parents" mindset and it's really starting to bug me. Vancouver isn't affordable if you're not making a six-figure income, and even with a six-figure income, it's incredibly soul-sucking.

For me, it breaks down to the work commute. If I can't get to work under an hour by car or public transit, it's too fucking far. Too bad, decent jobs are hard to come by outside of Vancouver. I'd take a pay cut if both my wife and I can work close to home.

Being close to parents/in-laws is a huge plus if you plan on having kids and having them be their caretaker. Childcare costs will cost you way more than gas.

[!LittleDragon]

Prices have been low for a few years. What have people been doing with the gas savings all these years? Should've been saved for when prices go back up... or even better, used to buy shares in energy companies. The quarterly payouts should at least subsidize your fuel costs.

But most people didn't.

[roastpuff]

Originally Posted by Spoon

For me, it breaks down to the work commute. If I can't get to work under an hour by car or public transit, it's too fucking far. Too bad, decent jobs are hard to come by outside of Vancouver. I'd take a pay cut if both my wife and I can work close to home.

Being close to parents/in-laws is a huge plus if you plan on having kids and having them be their caretaker. Childcare costs will cost you way more than gas.

Oh, I had a great job up north near Prince George. Loved the community there, liked working in the area. 5 minute walk to work. 1200sqft house for $900/month.

Girlfriend didn't want to leave Vancouver. Parents wanted me to move back down. So here I am paying $800/month for a tiny room in Pemberton working a job that's more stressful. Yeah there was a pay increase (20% roughly) but that's eaten up by the higher cost of living.

I get it that childcare costs a lot, but that's mostly true of Vancouver. In the community that I was living in before, daycare was $400/month for kids, and I had a steady 9-5 job that rarely had overtime. Lots of people did flex hours as well so that they could care for the kids.

[originalhypa]

Originally Posted by !LittleDragon

Prices have been low for a few years. What have people been doing with the gas savings all these years? Should've been saved for when prices go back up... or even better, used to buy shares in energy companies. The quarterly payouts should at least subsidize your fuel costs.

But most people didn't.

Are you telling me that you had the wherewithal to save every extra dime from when gas was $1.10 just in case it went up?

I think I speak for everyone here when I say "were you always this full of shit?"

Originally Posted by Sid Vicious

i've been travelling recently and i'm always a little surprised at how expensive food is in canada. and i'm not talking about places with lower costs of living, but food in europe seems way cheaper and better quality as well.

combined that with high telecom costs, i figure it's getting shittier and shittier to be a middle class canadian as time goes on

agreed.
Having just got back from the US, I was shocked as to how expensive food is there too. My average lunch cost for a family of 5 was at least $50, and the two nights we ate "fancy dinners" were over $150. This is in USD too, so add $1.35 to those numbers. It hurts when you think about it.

Originally Posted by Liquid_o2

I seriously don't understand how an average young couple with children makes do anymore in this city.

91 gas is killing me right now... $1.60 a liter

We have friends who basically think that as long as they keep working, it will all be okay. Their head's are deep in the sand hoping that the 649 numbers come in and they can retire early. Life sucks, so let's go lease a G37! It's crazy.

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

When the Canucks lose the next game 7 in the Stanley Cup Final?

Pretty much the only time anyone gives a fuck.

It's so sad just how true this statement is.

Originally Posted by roastpuff

Girlfriend is stuck in the "must stay in Vancouver to be close to parents" mindset and it's really starting to bug me.

Maybe it's time to find a new girlfriend with a sense of adventure?
The best times we had were when I was transferred to Montreal and my girlfriend (now wife) came with me. It sucked having to learn a new language while attempting to build a career, but it was so worth it in the end.

Originally Posted by Spoon

I'd take a pay cut if both my wife and I can work close to home.

That's what I did.
I left my 6 figure job an hour away for a 5 figure one with a 10 minute commute.

Now I have less money and more time. It's a good trade-off as long as your hobbies aren't expensive. Unfortunately mine are.....

[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by Liquid_o2

I seriously don't understand how an average young couple with children makes do anymore in this city.

91 gas is killing me right now... $1.60 a liter

Look who's having kids these days:
- couples who have at least one high income earning parent (most likely the father)
- parents who work in the public sector with generous maternity top up provisions and flexible work schedules
- ethnic families where the burden of childcare is shared among family members (big savings here)

Unless you're Asian, most families are not driving cars that require 91 octane.

[ilovebacon]

for me, i feel like every time when summer gets near, the gas prices would go up

[twitchyzero]

eating out isn't cheap in most cities

but we have so many options here...the level of competition means you can still find fresh and delicious stuff at affordable levels.

and I get that gas has skyrocketed compared to what it was 15 years ago...but it's still one kinda in your ability to control (run multiple errands in one go, carpool, transit, get on a bike), whereas insurance to me does a bigger dent and you're stuck with an all-or-none option if you own a car.

glad I have a nexus card and family just stone throw away south of the border...we need Costco gas in Vancouver, prooonto.

[quasi]

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

Mom and Dad. And if it's not mom and dad, it's not giving a fuck about debt knowing the inheritance of mom and dad will bail them out eventually.

Not my reality and I'm a parent. Live within your means, pack a lunch for work and don't eat out that often for dinners. If you want something new and shiny save your money instead of taking the easy route and financing it.

[originalhypa]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

whereas insurance to me does a bigger dent and you're stuck with an all-or-none option if you own a car.

Car insurance is a joke.
I get it, cars are dangerous, people are idiots, and when all you have seperating you and the other guy is a painted line, shit is going to happen.

But why is it that I have to pay 10% of the value of my vehicle per year?
My Tundra is worth about $25k right now. Yet I'm paying over $2600/year for insurance on it. Every year!

[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by originalhypa

Car insurance is a joke.
I get it, cars are dangerous, people are idiots, and when all you have seperating you and the other guy is a painted line, shit is going to happen.

But why is it that I have to pay 10% of the value of my vehicle per year?
My Tundra is worth about $25k right now. Yet I'm paying over $2600/year for insurance on it. Every year!

You know what's​ costing us all?

Litigation courtesy of the personal injury law industry. With that said, I now carry $3 million liability on my daily driver.

[Dragon-88]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

eating out isn't cheap in most cities

but we have so many options here...the level of competition means you can still find fresh and delicious stuff at affordable levels.

and I get that gas has skyrocketed compared to what it was 15 years ago...but it's still one kinda in your ability to control (run multiple errands in one go, carpool, transit, get on a bike), whereas insurance to me does a bigger dent and you're stuck with an all-or-none option if you own a car.

glad I have a nexus card and family just stone throw away south of the border...we need Costco gas in Vancouver, prooonto.

Get a scooter, I just paid $300 for insurance and $5 for gas on the 50cc.. My 125 is only $600 for the year and $6/ tank.. Cheaper than bus fare..

[twitchyzero]

do you not insure your car during the months you're riding?

[jjson]

Originally Posted by Dragon-88

Get a scooter, I just paid $300 for insurance and $5 for gas on the 50cc.. My 125 is only $600 for the year and $6/ tank.. Cheaper than bus fare..

Agree 100% from a financial perspective but have to consider other things like weather and shitty drivers as well when it comes to 2 wheels lol

[Dragon-88]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

do you not insure your car during the months you're riding?

Yeah I do, but i'm not here to compare cars to bikes.. I'm more or less just laying out how cheap it could be to commute around on a scoot vs. the other options(Bus,cars).

[Dragon-88]

Originally Posted by jjson

Agree 100% from a financial perspective but have to consider other things like weather and shitty drivers as well when it comes to 2 wheels lol

Weather, I just wear proper gear. I dont ride winter, but those who do have heated grips, jacket and pants. So there's no issues with the conditions. Want to avoid shitty drivers. Ride in the bike lanes, they're typically faster than main roads and have direct routes. I can get from Hastings and Willingdon to DT in 10-15mins on my scoot, in rush hour.

[twitchyzero]

you can ride a 49cc in bike lanes?