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05-03-2017, 12:20 PM
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| Canada has more seniors than children
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The government's Statistics Canada agency said Wednesday new census figures show there are now 5.9 million Canadians aged 65 and older. They outnumber the 5.8 million children 14 and under.
| I can only see this getting worse and worse with the high costs of living in our major cities. Get ready for tax increases in the upcoming decades.  | 
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05-03-2017, 12:41 PM
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Oh, great, there will be even more senior drivers to watch out for on the streets of the Lower Mainland. 
-cannot stand some seniors driving slow in the left lane, on the highway. -making really slow left turns etc. 
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05-03-2017, 12:44 PM
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The answer is immigration.
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05-03-2017, 12:55 PM
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I don't see how this is a surprise, it's the baby boomer generation.
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05-03-2017, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic!  The answer is immigration. | Can actually agree with you to an extent on this one.
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05-03-2017, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! The answer is immigration. | That's the easy solution. Increasing the birth rate would be the ideal solution.
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05-03-2017, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! The answer is immigration. | Immigration is something to consider, but gov't of Canada needs to start thinking long term.
The fact is that given the current cost of living, many can't even contemplate with the idea of having kids since it's so expensive and single income no longer provide enough income to sustain a family. This and the advance in medical technology allow people to live far longer than they used to and you get the aging population.
For people to be comfortable with having kids, we need affordable child care and housing (most family's single largest expense).
First one is relatively easy as Quebec's example has shown, gov't subsidy.
The second one IMO needs to be solved by urban expansion/diversification as in getting people to outer areas rather than concentrating in a small area.
People want to stay near city because of job opportunities but can't live too far as the cost of commuting comes into play. Hence, the gov't should encourage businesses to move outward where cost of land/housing is cheap.
Take Vancouver as an example, the major transportation bottleneck is the Fraser river (hence needing bridges), so the gov't should provide incentives for companies to move east of the river (Abbotsford/Chilliwack) and plan the infrastructures accordingly. There are plenty of flat lands between Abbot/Chill.
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05-03-2017, 01:23 PM
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lol made me think of this article from earlier this year https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/23/w...s-it.html?_r=0
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05-03-2017, 03:20 PM
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Besides the obvious economics factors here or, say, in Toronto... who the hell wants to have kids in the societal climate we live in? I watch what my sister deals with on a daily basis with her kids and the various mommy groups and other parents at daycare and schools... people are absofuckinglutely mental nowadays, there's so many alt-left gender bender recognize everyone nonsense crazy-ass parents out there now it's insane! Our social fabric is complete garbage to deal with, I don't know how my sister keeps her shit together.
Nevermind access to internet and information nowadays makes it so you're effectively choosing to either have kids, and focus on them for the next 20 years of your life, or explore the world and live freely with the 1 chance on the planet you do have... it's pretty intense, you have to REALLY want to have kids and be super invested in that process, otherwise it's just painful to sit there on one side of a window watching single or non-child rearing friends traveling wherever at a whim and taking whatever opportunities in life come their way. You can thank Instagram and Facebook for that depression! Likewise some people are on the other side staring in wishing they had a child, but I think those people are far fewer nowadays than before.
Maybe I'm just not programmed for kids, but I spend a couple hours around my niece or nephew or anyone else's kids and I'm like "See ya, enjoy!" and can't imagine doing that for 16+ hours per day. Gone are the days when I grew up when mommy stayed home and daddy went to work too... so both parents are busting their asses at work and then probably fighting more from stress and financial issues. No thanks!
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05-03-2017, 03:24 PM
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My child isn't gay, he was just suppose to be born a girl
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05-03-2017, 03:26 PM
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05-03-2017, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer My child isn't gay, he was just suppose to be born a girl | Funny, but people actually say this stuff! My sister recently sent me a screen-cap of a parent arguing against the autistic puppet on Sesame Street saying it doesn't raise awareness because he's treated like he's special and they should be treated the same as everyone else... you know... pretending there's not something wrong?
She also, I shit you not, said "I probably would have been diagnosed with autism myself as a child"......... ???? are you implying that you cured yourself of a genetic disorder lady? Or are you still autistic???? LOL
Oh and another one where the kid did a math exercise at school that asked them to identify which food had more calories and which one has less sodium from some nutrition charts, and the parents complained against the teacher because she was instilling shame in the kids for eating certain foods and that would lead to body image issues. WTF????
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05-03-2017, 03:41 PM
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tbh i wish i was body shamed when i was younger. I wouldnt be such a fat fuck and would have started on these juicy gains long ago 
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05-03-2017, 03:43 PM
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If the teacher gave me that guff;
1) Make a complaint to school.
2) Immediately find a new school or class.
WTF kind of logic is that?! SJW these days. Obese people should be body shamed. Who the fuck would be proud of being morbidly obese?! It's the same shit as smoking cigarettes.
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If not immigration, grinding the currently able bodied population into the ground and literally working them to death.
A glimpse of this is Japan.
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05-03-2017, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline That's the easy solution. Increasing the birth rate would be the ideal solution. | Not happening until I can provide 3 things required for basic survival.
1) Shelter
2) Clean water
3) Food
The first one sure as shit ain't happening in the lower mainland right now.
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05-03-2017, 03:55 PM
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i don't know how anyone with middle class income can even afford to have a kid unless they're living paycheck to paycheck or are balls deep in debt
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05-03-2017, 03:58 PM
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People are just too stupid nowadays to have kids. I remember way back in the day when being in your 20s meant kids were happening because you were probably already graduated from post-secondary, had a job and were ready to take on the next level of responsibility.
Most 20 somethings nowadays still act like bratty dicks.
There was speculation that most of the SJWs you see nowadays came from 'Generation Daycare' where they were routinely left at daycare for days on end while both parents worked thus little familial time spent. This caused inconsistent performance in child rearing and seeing as a daycare can only do so much in regards to discipline, that would usually fall on the parents who, surprise, were barely there. Then parents would supposedly buy lots of gifts for the kids to hide their guilt of not really being there.
And fast forward to today where you have these adult-children thinking they can change the world by screaming and being violent without fear of discipline.
Life is expensive. Adding kids to that drives that cost up a lot. It's actually smarter to not even have one if you have even some doubt about being able to raise it properly. Hmm, maybe these stupid people are actually smart then... 
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05-03-2017, 04:10 PM
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05-03-2017, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hehe Immigration is something to consider, but gov't of Canada needs to start thinking long term.
The fact is that given the current cost of living, many can't even contemplate with the idea of having kids since it's so expensive and single income no longer provide enough income to sustain a family. This and the advance in medical technology allow people to live far longer than they used to and you get the aging population.
For people to be comfortable with having kids, we need affordable child care and housing (most family's single largest expense).
First one is relatively easy as Quebec's example has shown, gov't subsidy.
The second one IMO needs to be solved by urban expansion/diversification as in getting people to outer areas rather than concentrating in a small area.
People want to stay near city because of job opportunities but can't live too far as the cost of commuting comes into play. Hence, the gov't should encourage businesses to move outward where cost of land/housing is cheap.
Take Vancouver as an example, the major transportation bottleneck is the Fraser river (hence needing bridges), so the gov't should provide incentives for companies to move east of the river (Abbotsford/Chilliwack) and plan the infrastructures accordingly. There are plenty of flat lands between Abbot/Chill. | The other problem resulting from that is Quebec's crazy wait times to get into a day care.
I honestly don't see why grandparents don't take a more active role in child raising in Canadian culture.
From watching, The Beginning of Life, on netflix, not only does the cost of raising a child a factor, but time spent with the child is also huge. As was alluded to with the day care thing from GS8's post.
Additionally, a child raised in a violent household will grown up to be a violent adult. Like one of my buddies say, because it's all they've known.
Violent households, talking out of my ass here, probably tend to the poorer ones too. Vicious cycle...
The financial cost alone, as opposed to time, effort, and mental, according to a study is $250,000 CAD to raise a child in Canada.
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05-03-2017, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pastarocket Oh, great, there will be even more senior drivers to watch out for on the streets of the Lower Mainland.
-cannot stand some seniors driving slow in the left lane, on the highway. -making really slow left turns etc. | You haven't seen this senior drive........... I fucking honk at young drivers who are scared shit to go a little faster.
Fucking whimps.......... 
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05-03-2017, 04:39 PM
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05-03-2017, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by murd0c I don't see how this is a surprise, it's the baby boomer generation. | I'd say Murd0c's the only one pointing out the primary cause so far. I'd give it another 10+ years before re-evaluating whether Canada has an aging population issue.
Birth rate has stayed below 2 per woman since the 70's, and was at its lowest between 1999 - 2001 (@1.49 - 1.5 births per woman). But it has actually moved up quite noticeably since then, and we're now at 1.61. Anecdotally, I'd cite the uptick to be a direct result of our immigration policy since the 90's. Certain ethnic groups traditionally preferred large families, and we are seeing the results of that now.
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