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Old 05-14-2017, 12:21 AM   #1
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Shifting Car Into Neutral At Stops? D or N?

This never occurred to me in my 8 years of driving. But my girlfriend from Korea recently mentioned to me it's odd that I don't shift into neutral at traffic lights. She said this was strange and I'm doing it wrong. If it matters the car is an automatic Toyota Yaris 07.
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They do this very often in Korea.
Tell her this isn't Korea, and it's a stupid thing to do.

While you're at it, tell her it's absolutely fine to sleep in a closed room with the fan on. Report back her reaction.

Source: am Korean.
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I see taxi drivers do it in HK all the time. I always assumed they do it to get the meter running in 'wait mode' as much as possible whenever they aren't moving.

I can't imagine why you'd do this otherwise.
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They do this very often in Korea.
Tell her this isn't Korea, and it's a stupid thing to do.

While you're at it, tell her it's absolutely fine to sleep in a closed room with the fan on. Report back her reaction.

Source: am Korean.
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I see taxi drivers do it in HK all the time. I always assumed they do it to get the meter running in 'wait mode' as much as possible whenever they aren't moving.

I can't imagine why you'd do this otherwise.
I asked a taxi driver this. he said it saves him gas when idling. Which i think is one of those old school urban driving legends that gets passed along by word of mouth or by seeing others do it.
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I know they do it in Korea, China, Hong Kong. I asked one of the driver ( on call ) who drives an Alphard, and he said it reduces the friction so the automatic transmission can last longer. His Aplhard has 530,000 KM on original tranny.

I do it because traffic lights can last up to 2 min in China. Rules are different from place to place, DON'T do this in Canada.

Note: It's usually N then E-brake.
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I'll do it if I miss a light I know is a long one, waiting for a train, in a drive through etc, just so i'm not sitting there stalling against the torque converter for minutes on end...
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I thought the down side is the Tranny now has to move between n and drive more and there is also wear and tear with every time that it engages or disengages the gear
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If I do have to idle for a long time I just put it on neutral and turn the car off
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I'll do it if I miss a light I know is a long one, waiting for a train, in a drive through etc, just so i'm not sitting there stalling against the torque converter for minutes on end...
neutral? or do you mean you toss it in park?

I've only used neutral in an automatic transmission equipped car for one purpose - and it sure as F wasn't my own car.

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While you're at it, tell her it's absolutely fine to sleep in a closed room with the fan on. Report back her reaction.

Source: am Korean.
I can imagine the emf rating on a blazing fan must be pretty high thus effecting the repair mechanism of the body when one is sleeping (causing cancer for example)... this may have been an insiders way of warning the peasants to be wary of fans but couldnt disclose the truth.
To this day they sell electric blankets and heated car seats.
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