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I know you're being sarcastic, but yeah, it actually does.
What people forget about depression that is that it's not just a burden to the one bearing it, but you also affect and hurt the people around you; Sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. People in this state of mind (wether right or wrong) think that by committing suicide, your also alleviating not just your pain, but the pain you cause to others; and in that warped sense of logic, they actually think they're doing those around them a favor.
When my Uncle committed suicide (among a few others in my family), it took me a while to understand the why. Once the answer clicked, the first thing I thought was 'no more pain, no more suffering, you're okay now'.
That was MY reaction. It was hardly the one felt throughout the family. Maybe I'm just a closeted Buddhist and don't realize it but by accepting what he did, I was able to cherish his memories and move on without burdening myself as it wouldn't do me or others around me any good.
No one can really say what's going on in the final moments of someone's head but if they succeed in their ultimate goal, I don't feel it's right to condemn them. You're only hurting yourself. Celebrate their life for even getting as far as they did. They tried but could not fit in sync with space and time.
Despite making great progress in the exploration of mental illness, it's still an enigma.
A strong back bone does not take away suicidal thoughts or tendencies.
Nietzsche said, "He who has a why to live can bare almost any how", and that's fundamentally how the majority of human life operates. People essentially add meaning to their lives through whatever it is they attach an importance to.
There are some people, however, who utterly find it impossible to operate that way. Regardless of how hard they try, even with the support of a loving family, they just can't find a "why" that can provide them with a reason to live.
Many of us will willingly suffer because we can find the reason in why we suffer; we know that the suffering will be worth it because there will come a point where the suffering will cease, and we will have reached a goal or objective. On the opposite side of the spectrum, people who go through major depression suffer on a daily basis but find no meaning in their suffering; a predicament that could even make the most hardened, mentally fortified individuals question their existence.
Suicide and depression are horrible and in no way do I condone it, but it is not as simple as some people make it out to be.
The original "just have a backbone" post was made by hchang. So they might be replying to both.
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"Can you match my resolve? If so then you will succeed. I believe that the human spirit is indomitable. If you endeavour to achieve, it will happen given enough resolve." -- Monty Oum
rather than blasting the albums, i've been throwing their shows on at work instead
You can see the evolution of their live shows as well.
This show was June 25th, so less than a month ago
I went up to a cute chick and asked her if she'd let me take a photo of her for $30 she slapped me, she said to me that "I AIN'T A WHORE!"
But other than that I have seen every car on display in DTP just by cruising about in Richmond, thank you very much for collecting them together and get someone to sing a cover for "fuck you".
OH FUCK YOU OH OH OOOOH~
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wtf man? what the hell kind of women do you go for? spca is for animals not dates...
This is slightly untrue. To be honest, I think it takes a surreal amount of courage to commit suicide.
When one commits you suicide, you don't realize how much your involuntary instincts take over to prevent your self-harm. Even though your mind is saying go, your body will defy your mind in front of your eyes in self preservation; so the amount of pain, and warped thoughts it takes to overcome that self-preservation instincts must be far more incredible than your typical people judge it to be, when they call such a thing as the "easy way".
Yes your body will want self preservation to kick in, but it's still the cowardly thing to do. You end your life to not face reality, not thinking about kids left behind, friends, family. Leaves you to not have to deal with the consequences, like Aaron Hernandez.
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I know you're being sarcastic, but yeah, it actually does.
What people forget about depression that is that it's not just a burden to the one bearing it, but you also affect and hurt the people around you; Sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. People in this state of mind (wether right or wrong) think that by committing suicide, your also alleviating not just your pain, but the pain you cause to others; and in that warped sense of logic, they actually think they're doing those around them a favor.
*whether
*you're
Yes but it's more of a burden to to the friends and family you leave behind. They will be thinking "Is there anything I could've done to stop them?" "Did they do it partially because of me?" "I should have been nicer to them"
Then your friends and family will have to deal with the guilt, costs of your funeral, having to raise YOUR kids on their own, having to take on YOUR roles and YOUR responsibilites on the life that YOU created.
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A strong back bone does not take away suicidal thoughts or tendencies.
No but it will guide you through life with your chest out and head up.
Yes your body will want self preservation to kick in, but it's still the cowardly thing to do. You end your life to not face reality, not thinking about kids left behind, friends, family. Leaves you to not have to deal with the consequences, like Aaron Hernandez.
*whether
*you're
Yes but it's more of a burden to to the friends and family you leave behind. They will be thinking "Is there anything I could've done to stop them?" "Did they do it partially because of me?" "I should have been nicer to them"
Then your friends and family will have to deal with the guilt, costs of your funeral, having to raise YOUR kids on their own, having to take on YOUR roles and YOUR responsibilites on the life that YOU created.
No but it will guide you through life with your chest out and head up.
No but it will guide you through life with your chest out and head up.
Your thinking is too naive and parochial. By that logic, any mental illness can be resolved by simply telling the individual to keep their chest out and head up.
Good luck telling someone with schizophrenia or severe depression that.
Sweet, tell us how you beat anorexia too because you don't eat like a bitch.
Sure did.
In fact, your mom's in the kitchen making me a sandwich for me as we speak.
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Your thinking is too naive and parochial. By that logic, any mental illness can be resolved by simply telling the individual to keep their chest out and head up.
Good luck telling someone with schizophrenia or severe depression that.
Rather not open another can of worms here but yes I actually do believe that, actually, let me elaborate.
Doctors nowadays label people who come in with problems with a disease. I'm not saying all mental illness is made up but I believe most can be fixed with logical thinking, something majority of you can't seem to grasp.
Here's a link explaining more how mental illness ratio numbers was down in the 60's, 70s and 80s
In fact, your mom's in the kitchen making me a sandwich for me as we speak.
Rather not open another can of worms here but yes I actually do believe that, actually, let me elaborate.
Doctors nowadays label people who come in with problems with a disease. I'm not saying all mental illness is made up but I believe most can be fixed with logical thinking, something majority of you can't seem to grasp.
Here's a link explaining more how mental illness ratio numbers was down in the 60's, 70s and 80s
Let me guess, you also voted for this hippie we have in office who sympathizes with terrorists?
i don't see exactly what you're trying to say here?
any organ in the body is susceptible to disease or problems, why would the brain be any different?
the brain is possibly the most complex organ too, and possiblY one of the most complex structures in the universe, so it makes sense how these problems are not well understood or easily treatable
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Doctors nowadays label people who come in with problems with a disease. I'm not saying all mental illness is made up but I believe most can be fixed with logical thinking, something majority of you can't seem to grasp.
lol, Dr. Google checking in
funeral costs? Bennington is worth $30M, his family will probably be fine financially.
some times you just gotta do you, and not worry about the emotional impact on others. Do you call those who divorce in an unhealthy relationship to be selfish? THINK ABOUT THE KIDS!
Let me guess, you also voted for this hippie we have in office who sympathizes with terrorists?
None of your damn business who I voted for
There is a major difference between whiny, delicate, snowflake millennials who THINK they have a mental illness and people who legitimately have a mental illness.
The former are composed of individuals who voluntarily refuse to think logically, whereas the latter have a desire to but are just not capable of doing so.
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