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Manic! 06-17-2018 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8907260)

Ever heard of government cheese? You think I'm joking but it's a real thing.

welfare 06-17-2018 09:31 AM

Ok but what's your point?

twitchyzero 06-17-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8906679)
You're so blindly clouded by your bigotry and support for Trump, that you would actually enjoy seeing the Canadian economy take a hit based on Trumps ridiculous decisions on trade? Why even consider yourself a Canadian, you're treasonous.

If Trump's decisions end up costing Canadians in our pockets, or your own pockets for that matter, why do you continue to support him? It's absolutely bizarre to me.

I don't mind certain sectors taking a short-term hit if it means we can wake up and amend policies from the 70s

do you believe dairy "supply management" is fair?

and instead of trying to work out with our temper-tantrum neighbour, you're gonna stoop down to their level by say you won't be pushed around and retaliate?

ask China how they feel about engaging in the trade war...and they are a substantially larger market

twitchyzero 06-17-2018 11:45 AM

and doesn't your own argument work against you
'Canadians first' sounds awfully similar to MAGA

DragonChi 06-17-2018 12:12 PM

I would buy Canadian milk any day over American milk. There's so much hormones and antibiotics Americans put into their dairy to make it economical.

68style 06-17-2018 02:14 PM

^
this is no longer true, check WA state regulations they have changed in recent years

Hondaracer 06-17-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8907295)
^
this is no longer true, check WA state regulations they have changed in recent years

what about their meat?

swear every time i go down, even for the day, if i eat a burger or somthing i feel fucking grossss after

Manic! 06-17-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8907273)
Ok but what's your point?

The US is subsidizing their dairy industry.

welfare 06-17-2018 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8907316)
The US is subsidizing their dairy industry.

Sure, the US offers 'some' subsidies to farmers. Nowhere near the protection of Canadian tariffs though.
And Trump suggested getting rid of all subsidies, tariffs, and barriers
A suggestion that (surprise, surprise) has gone completely underreported by the media.

danned 06-17-2018 09:37 PM

https://media.fox5dc.com/media.fox5d....0_640_360.jpg

Manic! 06-17-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8907330)
Sure, the US offers 'some' subsidies to farmers. Nowhere near the protection of Canadian tariffs though.
And Trump suggested getting rid of all subsidies, tariffs, and barriers
A suggestion that (surprise, surprise) has gone completely underreported by the media.

unless it has to do with national security right?

welfare 06-17-2018 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8907335)
unless it has to do with national security right?

Was that even discussed? Not to anyone's knowledge.
so when he said all tariffs, we have to assume he meant all tariffs

Manic! 06-17-2018 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8907337)
Was that even discussed? Not to anyone's knowledge.
so when he said all tariffs, we have to assume he meant all tariffs

And how would that be good for Canada?

twitchyzero 06-17-2018 11:09 PM

protectionist policy is good for our economy
let's get those tar sands to China
say no to US dairy

Make Canada Great Again

MG1 06-18-2018 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by danned (Post 8907331)

Dark Cloud over 'Murica

Ch28 06-18-2018 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8907341)
protectionist policy is good for our economy
let's get those tar sands to China
say no to US dairy

Make Canada Great Again

Canada's best weapon in a US trade-war: invalidating US pharma patents

https://boingboing.net/2018/06/17/the-pharma-wars.html

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First, this is not something we should just lay on the table willy-nilly. This is the trade equivalent of nuclear weapon. However, if Trump hits the auto sector then I'd roll this out immediately. No grace period, no waiting time, no nothing. Within a few minutes of Trump declaring said tariffs on automobiles hit them with this hard, fast, and immediately.

That said, I'd also follow this up (as I said in another post) with allowing Canadian pharmacies to fill US residents' prescriptions as long as they present it to the pharmacist in person. This will have the added benefit of increasing tourism numbers since those people will need to travel here, spend money here on hotels/food/etc, and on the prescription itself.

Now the US could respond by simply confiscating said prescriptions at the border and that's fine. By doing so they are now inconveniencing and aggravating their own citizens which would have a direct impact within the US.

So, this becomes a two-pronged approach. Piss off the LARGE Pharmaceutical lobby by negating their patents AND piss off elderly and ill voters by confiscating their legally purchased prescription medication. Just sit back and watch howls from Congress and the Big Pharma lobby that even Trump won't be able to ignore.
:pokerface:

Allanya 06-18-2018 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by danned (Post 8907331)

I lol'd hard PogChamp Some kind of sign to all humanity! :chairdance:

68style 06-18-2018 07:07 PM

Space force guys!!!!

twitchyzero 06-18-2018 07:34 PM

heard you guys don't mind trade wars
Trump wants to implement tariffs on half a trillion dollars worth of Chinese imports if Beijing doesn't listen to his demands

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.86f4d70f6466

US ambassador in Ottawa received death threats and fake anthrax, stay classy Canada!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/us-e...ance-1.4708028

Jmac 06-18-2018 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8907341)
protectionist policy is good for our economy
let's get those tar sands to China
say no to US dairy

Make Canada Great Again

Using which pipeline?

Ch28 06-18-2018 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8907489)
heard you guys don't mind trade wars
Trump wants to implement tariffs on half a trillion dollars worth of Chinese imports if Beijing doesn't listen to his demands

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.86f4d70f6466

US ambassador in Ottawa received death threats and fake anthrax, stay classy Canada!

Death threat, suspicious substance mailed to U.S. ambassador in Ottawa | CBC News

LOL good luck America if this goes through.

He's basically alienated the United States from every single country except Russia and North Korea

68style 06-18-2018 08:50 PM

^
Don’t forget Philippines!

welfare 06-18-2018 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8907506)
LOL good luck America if this goes through.

He's basically alienated the United States from every single country except Russia and North Korea

China is by far the world's top exporter. It exports almost twice as much as US. The US is (significantly) China's number one trade partner.
Why do you think it's America that would lose when it comes to these tariffs?

welfare 06-18-2018 10:02 PM

Here's a rough evaluation for Canada.
Doesn't look like the US would fair too terribly..
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tra...ions-1.4710096

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For Canada, it predicts the economy would shrink 1.8 per cent.

"A ramp-up in protectionism in the U.S. results in a negative impact on growth in each of the NAFTA partners' economies," said the report, co-authored by Scotiabank's Brett House, Juan Manuel Herrera, René Lalonde and Nikita Perevalov.

Under the most aggressively protectionist scenario, the U.S. economy would contract by 0.1 per cent in 2020, the report said. Any of the scenarios in which tariffs are applied would lead to the U.S. growing less robustly than it should.

Manic! 06-18-2018 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8907524)
China is by far the world's top exporter. It exports almost twice as much as US. The US is (significantly) China's number one trade partner.
Why do you think it's America that would lose when it comes to these tariffs?

Cheap Chinese goods. You think trump supporters are going to be happy when the prices go up at their local dollar store?


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