Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8911430)

I can't believe 3 pages were spent arguing about the N-word, nothing is more amusing than to watch white guys argue why they can't drop the n-bomb when it's used in rap songs, utterly hilarious, but an all too common and boring argument.

Moving on, I think with this Russia meeting we're slowly starting to see the threads start to fray in the Trump administration. It's happening slowly, but I think we'll look back at this time as the turning point, at least I hope.

I do think the left is making a big mistake by demagoguing Russia and Putin too much though. While for sure Russia and Putin are acting as hostile entities, I think it's foolish to try to lay blame of the election results on them. By doing so the left is excusing the rot and decay that is occurring in American politics and its electorate right now.

The problem isn't Russia, the problem is America. It's media, the propaganda, the galvanizing, the racism, the hatred, the rampant white supremacy, there's a real problem with the American electorate right now that needs to be addressed. One can see the possibility of a civil war, Trump will come and go, but his voters will not. I don't understand how people can't figure that part out. So Trump maybe gets impeached, then what? What happens next? You think suddenly half of the country will become progressives?

I'm starting to realize this isn't about Trump anymore, there is literally no negative news or information that will come out to dissuade his supporters, literally nothing. A tape can come out with hookers pissing on his face while he drinks it gleefully, and they will claim it's a fake video, doctored, fake news. None of it matters, this is why he's Teflon.

The reason is because this isn't about Trump, it's about a movement, his supporters are standing for the movement behind him, and not so much the man himself. That's a real problem, and Democrats need to figure out a clear standpoint, a clear agenda for people to get behind and support.

Thus far they haven't, if that doesn't change, they're fucked in 2020. These god damn corporate Dems NEED to go in this coming primary. Here's hoping.

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8911491)

Not sure which is worst, his comments yesterday with Putin at that presser yesterday or this! Apologize to the Trumpeteers in advance for this fake news, I know it looks like him retracting yesterday's comments with a ridiculous lame explanation, but it might not be him, it could be a leftist liberal staged setup.

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8911430)

I can't believe 3 pages were spent arguing about the N-word, nothing is more amusing than to watch white guys argue why they can't drop the n-bomb when it's used in rap songs, utterly hilarious, but an all too common and boring argument.

Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 8911730)

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8911747)

Trumps actions seem to align with Russian goals as well. Weakening Americas allies, and the Western Alliance. Disrupting G7 economic relations, as well as Chinas with the USA. Weakening your enemies power is just as good as strengthening your own.

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8911751)

Weaking the relationship with American allies (ie. G7) is without a doubt against American interest. But from an American standpoint, I would argue that badgering and bullying China back into a more "meek and mild" behaviour is good for both American and worldwide interest. At both the individual and state level, Chinese money is buying up a lot of stuff, both materialistic and otherwise. In particular, at the state level, there is a ton of organized activities to buy influence, technology, resources, etc. Had the US wait until things get as bad as Australia, it would be far too late.

In this case, I'd say it takes a bully (Trump) to bully the other bully (China), and Trump has done that quite well. I know for sure that Obama, GWB, and Clinton absolutely cannot achieve what Trump has managed to do in terms of reining China back in.

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8911784)

What's going on with Australia? Is China flooding
them with cheap goods and materials undercutting their economy?

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8911821)

Another trump idiot in Canada: London, Ont. Sobeys Shopper Allegedly Called ‘Illegal Alien’ In Harrowing Run-In