I have no problem with gay/trans people.

I also F&F who have strong religious beliefs, the idea of LGBTQ is not something they can accept.

And that's ok. Agree to disagree.

But for some of of the more radical "activists"... nop, that's NOT ok.

They want anyone and everyone to agree with their ideologies or label those who refuse as homophobic, racism or whatever.

What exactly have this world come to?

Why is it not ok to think/believe/do things differently? I have had many interaction with churches throughout my life, and never once was I treated differently knowing that I wasn't yet a believer. And I return that respect that I didn't see them any differently just because they were Catholic.

Do you know the problem conservatives and even many of the center people have with Woke? Simple... Why can't you woke people leave us the fuck alone?

You want to believe in LGBTQ, Israel, Ukraine... whatever you want... go ahead. I don't give a flying fuck. Don't force it on me. I respect your decision, but I don't need to like LGBTQ like you do. I like being straight just fine. I am neutral toward everything else. But somehow that's not ok today to the liberals.

It is totally fine. That's 100% how I live too, and I am totally fine.

Tell that to the woke. If it's ok as you said, we wouldn't be having all these discussion.

What is being forced on you?
Are they telling you that you have to be gay or you'll be punished? If you don't care about it, and you shut the fuck up about it, literally nothing negative could possibly come your way. That's literally the point. Someone making gay alien isn't pushing the gay agenda on you. If it offends you, you have the choice to not watch it, or you could take the route of screaming that it's forced on you, and risk people being angry about it because you basically have said that something existing offends you.

You don't have to interact with people who have a problem with you being neutral towards them

If you really are neutral, you won't get angry, and "the woke" won't go after you

And if they do, just ignore them. They are probably just angry twitter mutants

JD Vance beardless.. I think Mike might be right

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But that's sometimes not the case and that sometimes can involve people who are very loud and influential - just because no one called you out doesn't mean it doesn't happen as there's plenty of evidence of religious leaders decrying gays and other minorities. It's the old trope of "Well, the Nazis didn't come for me..."

There's neutral in "I don't care what it is you want, not my problem" and neutral in "Sure, you should be heard and supported but it's not a fight I want to be a part of". The former is just a cop-out, the latter is a reasonable take - not every cause that exists is a cause for me to support. When people knock on my door asking for donations I tell them that I support their causes and wish them luck but that I'm focusing my efforts with food security (food bank) so I can't help them right now. That's different than telling them to fuck off b/c they didn't read my No Soliciting sign which is what a lot of "neutral" people actually are doing.

I have pretty severe hearing loss and if I felt that I needed more support from society for it (say mandatory closed captioning or perhaps maximum sound levels at restaurants so I can hear others talk) I'd hope that the response is no worse than "I hear you and I hope you get support for it but it's not a cause I can get behind" and not "Well my hearing works fine and I like my restaurants loud". Either is "neutral".

Your examples regarding Disney etc. aren’t true though. They get hammered in their film productions, their marvel holdings are dragging down their stock single handedly.

Bud light? Billions of dollars lost for investors overnight?

Taking that stances when you’re a faceless corporation is not the way to shareholder value if that’s the argument you want to make.. it’s been demonstrated many times.

Being “woke” when you’re insincere doesn’t pay. Including a bi alien in a Star Wars show isn’t making money for anyone lol..

"Disney is woke" being a new thing is amusing btw. Reminds me of the meltdown someone here had a few years ago about "Star Trek is so woke now"

In the 90's boomers and their parents were complaining about Pocahontas, Aladdin, Mulan all being (the 90's equivalent of) "woke" for having so many non white characters . Now it's the same thing except complaining about women or gay or Asian characters or whatever.

It's the same shit, different age. You guys are going through what your parents did. Maybe your kids will break the cycle.

Oh, won't somebody PLEASE think of the shareholders???

https://i.imgur.com/DggCtxZ.jpeg

Harris picks her running mate, the whitest guy you've ever seen LUL


In related news, Kamala Harris now leads in all major polling averages

If your view is that when Disney doesn't have a hit is that it's because they got woke and not because they can release stinkers from time to time like they always have then there's not much to discuss on that point. But tell me was Inside Out 2 a billion dollar hit b/c Pixar came to their senses and stopped being woke?

You're cherry picking examples so let me cherry pick one too. How's being woke going for Apple?

Apples woke? Lol

I love this argument.. this is the liberal mindset

Disney - sack of shit company!! Slave labour! China Supporters! Stealing IP! Only for the rich!! Terrible ethics!!

Somone questions their “wokeness”

Fucking biggot! POS! Don’t talk about Disney like that!

It’s bordering on insane tbh..

It only seems insane because it didn't happen.
You don't have people celebrating corporate pandering. At very best we've said, at least some kid watching the show is going to feel represented. 8 year olds aren't worried about how Walt Disney was a nazi. You're creating these scenarios out of nothing to fuel the frustration you already have about a trans robot lol.

It doesn’t happen? Lol it happens right here..

When did someone call you a bigot for calling disneys activism performative?
Nobody here is offering up the Nobel peace prize to Disney for the alien. They are just saying it's hilarious that someone thinks that's a reasonable reason to get upset. They are movies for toddlers man.
That said, inside out is a banger of a movie.

Some people get upset about Disney being woke, others get upset because a hockey player decides not to wear a pride jersey during a warm up skate.

People on both sides are whiny little babies, but people want to whine about which side has more whiny little babies as if that even matters.

https://www.apple.com/diversity/

Looks pretty woke to me. Gay man who runs the company, celebrates Pride all the time, makes racial and gender equality a priority, has a member of the exec team who owns environmental, social and policy initiatives. Their products are some of the most inclusive around - they prioritise accessibility more than nearly any company.

Lemme guess, it's woke when you don't like something they do, it's not woke when you like it?

So yesterday went to the horse races and was lined up for a beer

This fucking clown and his buddy beside me are going off “hah look at all that smoke from that burger shack, smells like fucking cancer eating that crap”

“These people selling these 50/50 hah what fucking losers! Hah”

When I finally get to the front I pay for my drinks with a card and I hear the guy

“Hah.. imagine paying for beers on a card hah.. fucking Trudeau and Biden..”

I’m ready to say like.. you sound like a peach.. but ignore it and walk away.

Anyone who talks like that, whether you’re right of left leaning, you’re likely a total fucking loser in life.

Anyone who is out and about in public going on about politics, or wokeness, or pushing their little agendas out loudly in public on either side, you’re a fucking miserable loser

It’s one thing to have (relatively) civil discussions here but if you’re like that out in public? Yuck

Corporate diversity isn’t the same as making a transgender wookie

feels like some lord of the rings shit... just when we thought sauron was going to take over the plot twist, gandolf leads the charge to turn the tide.

btw i have no stake in who wins i'm just here to eat popcorn

Credit/debit cards are political now?

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These ones? Which episode are they in?

I googled "transgender wookie" and can't find anything showing that Disney has a transgender wookie on their shows. And even if they did who fucking cares?

It's not the reason Acolyte or most of the recent Star Wars shows have sucked. It's not why a lot of the recent Marvel shows have sucked either. It's not the reason why their theme parks are packed to the gills and it costs $200/day to go.

There isn’t any trans wookie. Was just using that as an example that corporate diversity is not the same thing as these feigned attempts at being woke.

If anyone knows any gay or trans people, I suggest talking to them to see how they feel. A few gay folks I know are tired of crap from both sides.

They're tired of the right telling them to burn in hell, they're tired of the left telling them they're so brave and asking if they're going to be at the parade.

They just want to be left alone and treated as normal people. They don't want special treatment, they don't want to stand out... just want to blend in with the crowd like normal people.