Trump thread 2.0

[68style]

So many people wanting to still jump on Trumps dick tho!

Lost in it all is the fact they’d need to push little girls out of the way to get to it first

[pastarocket]

What Cheeto is doing now with his threats against Mexico, Colombia, Iran, and Greenland is threatening to destroy the Western military alliance NATO.

Putin and the Chinese president Xi Jinping must be laughing at what this idiot is doing.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/05/world...ato-intl-latam

Amid increasing concerns that Greenland, a vast Arctic territory ruled by Denmark, is still being coveted by the Trump administration, the Danish prime minister has delivered a stark warning to the White House.

In nationally televised remarks, Mette Frederiksen reminded Danes that she had already “made it very clear where the Kingdom of Denmark stands, and that Greenland has repeatedly said that it does not want to be part of the United States.”

But she also warned of the consequences of US military action to seize Greenland – something US President Donald Trump has pointedly refused to rule out.

“First of all, I think you have to take the US president seriously when he says he wants Greenland,” Frederiksen said, reflecting heightened anxiety about Trump’s intentions in the aftermath of his extraordinary military action in Venezuela.

“But I also want to make it clear that if the US chooses to attack another NATO country militarily, everything stops, including NATO and thus the security that has been provided since the end of World War II,” she added.

It is a serious and widely shared concern among NATO allies that the Greenland issue has the potential not only to anger and humiliate a longtime US partner, but also to fracture the Western military alliance as pressure from Washington escalates.

On Tuesday, the leaders of France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain, the United Kingdom and Denmark released a join statement saying, “Arctic security remains a key priority for Europe and it is critical for international and transatlantic security.”

CNN visited Greenland in October, as the Danish military staged an unprecedented show of military force officially meant to deter what are said to be growing Russian and Chinese military threats.

The bigger concern is that IF Cheeto does order the U.S. military to invade Greenland and make it American territory, then what happens to the NATO military alliance?

European nations will be even more angry at the U.S.

NATO dissolves?

Russia invades Europe and reclaims eastern European countries like Poland? Heck, even Finland and other Scandinavian countries would be scared.

Cheeto the idiot wants to invade Denmark's territory of Greenland?

The country of LEGO and butter cookies??

[whitev70r]

Well, Cheeto kinda wanted to break up NATO in his 1st term, didn't he?

But Venezuela, there is a 'case' for removing Maduro (dictator for decades, harming the citizens ... rightly or wrongly), but what is the case for Greenland? Is it Dr. Seuss, I don't like Green Eggs and Ham? I certainly hope that if Trump attempts to take over Greenland, that the international community will ostracize him and stand up to the US because it would be total anarchy. Nothing would be out of bounds if he did that.

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

Well, Cheeto kinda wanted to break up NATO in his 1st term, didn't he?

But Venezuela, there is a 'case' for removing Maduro (dictator for decades, harming the citizens ... rightly or wrongly), but what is the case for Greenland? Is it Dr. Seuss, I don't like Green Eggs and Ham?

What the orange idiot does not realize is the U.S. is stronger and better prepared against military and terrorist threats when you have an alliance with European countries under NATO.

If NATO dissolves, and you have no European countries to help the U.S. if shit really hits the fan with military threats from Russia, China, or terrorist threats from Iran, Syria, or other Middle East countries, they are fucked.

Cheeto really thinks that the U.S. could defend itself from multiple military and terrorist threats without any European allies to help them? His America First foreign policy just plays into the hands of Russia and China haha.

No military aid from Europe. No security intelligence, or spy information sharing from the UK and European countries to help the U.S. to defend itself from terrorist threats. Cheeto would be on his own haha.

Orange baby can cry all he wants that the U.S. foots the big bill for military spending for the NATO.

The fact of the matter is that European countries are increasing their military spending big time because they know they cannot depend on the U.S. anymore for help.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/europ...sky-intl-latam

If the U.S. faced a big military threat from Russia or China or both countries, guess what, European countries won't come to help the US if NATO dissolves.

Cheeto alienated Europe? Fine, if shit hits the fan, former U.S. allies won't help the U.S. anymore.

[Badhobz]

what threat? aint nobody gonna invade the USA. Russia & China and other kooks arent gonna do shit, they just want their little sphere of influence. The US has more than ample weapons and military might to protect themselves from any invasion.

The only thing that would irk them is their military industrial complex makes them quite a bit of $$$$. If nobody buys their shit, thats a hefty portion of the GDP lost.

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

what threat? aint nobody gonna invade the USA. Russia & China and other kooks arent gonna do shit, they just want their little sphere of influence. The US has more than ample weapons and military might to protect themselves from any invasion.

The only thing that would irk them is their military industrial complex makes them quite a bit of $$$$. If nobody buys their shit, thats a hefty portion of the GDP lost.

-not just the military threats but also the terrorist threats, Hobz.

I am sure that there are constant terrorist threats from the Middle East against the Americans.

We civilians just don't know the scale of these terrorists threats against the U.S.

No NATO? Say good bye to spy intelligence information from MI-6 and other European spy agencies to help the U.S. defend itself from terrorist attacks.

[Badhobz]

i guess, but their own stupid ass gun policy did more "terrorism" than bin ladin and friends have cooked up in 30 years.

Let'm pull out, screw'em. Its best people decouple from this bs criminal enterprise regime right now anyways.

Canada should join the EU, and or that New Zealand, Australia, Canada union thingy.

[68style]

If Canada joined the EU you'd be gone to Germany for blonde whores in a heartbeat lol

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Canada should join the EU, and or that New Zealand, Australia, Canada union thingy.

I'm trying really hard to imagine you with an Australian accent.

[Traum]

The thing that makes absolutely no sense is -- Greenland is 1000% willing to work with the US as far as security and military deployments are concerned. As I understand it, the US already has a long-standing military presence in Greenland. Greenlanders and their gov welcome the military cooperation, and I'm under the impression that as long as the US military makes a reasonable demand in regards to troop deployment, camps, equipment and such, they are not going to say no to the US.

So what's the point of US annexing Greenland, other than to stoke the Orange Man's small dick energy?

[Gumby]

What U.S. ally has Trump not alienated at this point? Russia and China are 100% laughing at Trump tearing down all of the U.S.' strengths, which ultimately improves their statuses on the world stage.

If Trump takes over Greenland, NATO better put their money where their mouth is and cancel the alliance. None of that "hey that's not nice!" finger-wagging BS.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by pastarocket

The bigger concern is that IF Cheeto does order the U.S. military to invade Greenland and make it American territory, then what happens to the NATO military alliance?

European nations will be even more angry at the U.S.

NATO dissolves?

If Trump really orders the US military to invade Greenland, then I think the US military should flat out refuse to carry out the operation, and publically announce its refusal to carry out the order. US service members have a legal duty to disobey unlawful order, and no matter how I look at it, invading a NATO partner country that has not attacked or even threatened the US in any way is as unlawful as it gets. And when the military goes public with disobeying the order, Congress should begin the steps to impeach the president as well.

The things that must be done are all very straightforward to me, but of course, if it were to happen, it is unlikely for both the military and Congress to do what they are supposed to do as outlined in the law.

[68style]

That's expecting a lot from the large contingent of dunderheads that join the military in the first place.

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by Traum

The thing that makes absolutely no sense is -- Greenland is 1000% willing to work with the US as far as security and military deployments are concerned. As I understand it, the US already has a long-standing military presence in Greenland. Greenlanders and their gov welcome the military cooperation, and I'm under the impression that as long as the US military makes a reasonable demand in regards to troop deployment, camps, equipment and such, they are not going to say no to the US.

So what's the point of US annexing Greenland, other than to stoke the Orange Man's small dick energy?

I think that Orange Man wants the rare earth minerals in Greenland. The whole rationale about "needing Greenland" for security reasons to deter the Russian and Chinese navy is smoke and mirrors.

Orange Baby is being a greedy bastard again! -wants to bully the Danes and take away Greenland.

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by Traum

If Trump really orders the US military to invade Greenland, then I think the US military should flat out refuse to carry out the operation, and publically announce its refusal to carry out the order. US service members have a legal duty to disobey unlawful order, and no matter how I look at it, invading a NATO partner country that has not attacked or even threatened the US in any way is as unlawful as it gets. And when the military goes public with disobeying the order, Congress should begin the steps to impeach the president as well.

The things that must be done are all very straightforward to me, but of course, if it were to happen, it is unlikely for both the military and Congress to do what they are supposed to do as outlined in the law.

If it came to that, I hope the US military refuses to carry out the orders, but I am not optimistic about it.

Look at how the government is treating Senator Mark Kelly, after he participated in a video reminding military service members that they may refuse "illegal orders". The Pentagon is looking to demote and reduce Kelly's retirement pay, despite the crazy list of accomplishments he's had while serving the country.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by 68style

That's expecting a lot from the large contingent of dunderheads that join the military in the first place.

I'd largely agree with you about this as far as the regular front line grunts are concerned, but I was really thinking more of the high ranking generals / admirals being the ones to refuse to act on the order and come rat the president out. Based on what I've seen in mainstream news media, those who are able to reach the high military ranks are almost always extremely level-headed and disciplined.

A recent example of this is back in Sept last year (2025) when Trump called back all the military leaders to listen to his rant. The general consensus from political commentators for that event was -- the military leaders were pretty much all giving him a silent rebuking of his rhetoric.

So at least for now, I'd still have a lot of faith in the high ranking US military leaders to not do anything stupid.

Honestly, the next 3 years can't pass soon enough.

[bcrdukes]

I say this in jest because it's not possible, but what if the American people still wanted Trump as their president and he made it possible to make it happen?

[mikemhg]

I have little hope in the military going against illegal orders.

Jesus the Senate/House have already showed us that elected officials won't even uphold their oath to follow legislated rules, what makes anyone think unelected and unaccountable service members would?

Makes you really start to think that Trump really is the "deep state" and that he's simply a convenient arbiter of their modern agenda.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

I have little hope in the military going against illegal orders.

Jesus the Senate/House have already showed us that elected officials won't even uphold their oath to follow legislated rules, what makes anyone think unelected and unaccountable service members would?

Makes you really start to think that Trump really is the "deep state" and that he's simply a convenient arbiter of their modern agenda.

Yeah, for all intents and purposes the United States is no longer a functional democracy and is a dictatorship. You'll get the odd person of principle doing stuff like resigning (like the general who refused to target Venezuelan ships) but otherwise everyone is going along with whatever Trump wants regardless of the legality.

The assumption that midterm elections will put the Democrats back in power and that they'd impeach them is really idealistic as the Republicans have been doing a lot of legwork to rig the elections (namely, they have changed the post dating guidelines for mail which will result in a large number of votes being disqualified).

Even if the Democrats get back in power the amount of damage done will take decades to fix (if it can even be fixed).

[Harvey Specter]

Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex, which has since evolved into the the deep state.

And in other news...

[Manic!]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyg1jg8xkmo

US discussing options to acquire Greenland, including use of military, says White House

US President Donald Trump has been discussing "a range of options" to acquire Greenland, including use of the military, the White House said.

In a statement, the White House told the BBC that acquiring Greenland was a "national security priority".

It comes after Trump repeated over the weekend that the US "needed" Greenland – a semi-autonomous region of fellow Nato member Denmark – for security reasons.

The White House statement was also issued hours after European leaders rallied behind Denmark, whose Prime Minister, Mette Frederiksen, warned on Monday that any attack by the US would spell the end of Nato.

The White House said on Tuesday: "The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the US military is always an option at the Commander-in-Chief's disposal."

Nato is a trans-Atlantic military group where allies are expected to go to each other's aid in case of external attacks.

On Tuesday, six European allies backed Denmark in a joint statement.

"Greenland belongs to its people, and only Denmark and Greenland can decide on matters concerning their relations," the leaders of the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain, and Denmark said.

Maybe we can take Point Roberts.

[Harvey Specter]

NATO will have to step up or it's game over for Europe. I also feel like Canadians need to take Trump's threat of taking Canada serious.

[!LittleDragon]

Originally Posted by Traum

The thing that makes absolutely no sense is -- Greenland is 1000% willing to work with the US as far as security and military deployments are concerned. As I understand it, the US already has a long-standing military presence in Greenland. Greenlanders and their gov welcome the military cooperation, and I'm under the impression that as long as the US military makes a reasonable demand in regards to troop deployment, camps, equipment and such, they are not going to say no to the US.

So what's the point of US annexing Greenland, other than to stoke the Orange Man's small dick energy?

That's basically how they got Hawaii. They allowed the Americans in, they setup their businesses there and then came a military base... Next thing you know... "that's mine now"

[Harvey Specter]

Trump Says He’s Selling Venezuela’s Oil and That the ‘Money Will Be Controlled by Me’

President Donald Trump announced on Tuesday that he would be selling Venezuela’s oil after invading the country, with the money to be personally controlled by him.

“I am pleased to announce that the Interim Authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 MILLION Barrels of High Quality, Sanctioned Oil, to the United States of America,” announced Trump in a Truth Social post. “This Oil will be sold at its Market Price, and that money will be controlled by me, as President of the United States of America, to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States!”

He concluded, “I have asked Energy Secretary Chris Wright to execute this plan, immediately. It will be taken by storage ships, and brought directly to unloading docks in the United States. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

[mikemhg]

^Yup

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/06/busin...over-oil-trump

I can't believe we have fucking morons that try to conduct the mental gymnastics to defend Trump in all of this, as if this had anything to do with Maduro's governance, or lack there of.

We always get lost in the sauce of arguing the academics of the blatantly obvious crap, meanwhile as we're distracted arguing, they continue on doing whatever the hell they want.