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ae101 11-09-2018 01:36 PM

I think u guys are going wayyyyy too far with the south rising, seriously the NRA should be the first ones to jump up and oppose u

Don't forget the NRA doesn't really care about whole situation and they just feel sad about everything

Anti-gun ppl will use whatever evidence/fact they find to prove their point is right, while pro-gun ppl will look them up and debunk them lol

Bouncing Bettys 11-09-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8927778)
How many people do you think will actually do anything? 99.9999% of the people will not take up arms.

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8927760)
If tensions were to reach the point of civil war and gun rights were the catalyst...

I'm discussing a scenario where war between armed combatants has begun, however unlikely it may be. I disagreed with the notion of others here that it would be conflict between untrained gun owning civilians and the full arsenal of the US military with all its toys. Military personnel would be conflicted between defending the government or defending the Constitution, to kill Americans or defend them. Perhaps you wouldn't even see a division - the top generals refuse the President's orders or even commit a military coup. I wonder how the rest of the world would handle the situation. Man I miss that show Jericho.

ae101 11-09-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8927781)
You don't understand how the military works. From day one soldiers are taught to respect the chain of command. It's drilled into there brains. There is nothing worse than being a traitor.

Thanks bro, u have just also describe gang members, law enforcement, my friends family and few other things too

Manic! 11-09-2018 01:49 PM

People are forgetting one thing, Americans are lazy. The US has over 325 million but the NRA has only around 5 million people. People can't be even bothered to join the NRA so why would they take up arms against the government.

Less than 1/3 of the US pop owns guns. Guns are not that important to a majority of americans.

underscore 11-09-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8927697)
What laws that they don't already have In California would you suggest could have prevented this?

It needs to be tackled nationwide, otherwise you just need to drive a few hours to a state with lax laws and then drive back.

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Originally Posted by CorneringArtist (Post 8927718)
But that takes funding the VA services for healthcare, and we all know how much the current party in power hates funding subsidized healthcare. Maybe with the shift in the House some measure an be taken, but veterans services will not see any increase in funding under the current administration, despite its near fetishistic worship of "the troops".

In the US more military service members commit suicide than are killed in combat. VA services needs a massive overhaul and increase in funding.

Bouncing Bettys 11-09-2018 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8927781)
You don't understand how the military works. From day one soldiers are taught to respect the chain of command. It's drilled into there brains. There is nothing worse than being a traitor.

While this may be true, the chain of command of the military of many countries is topped by civilian governments. This system has long caused tension between the military and government and there are examples in US history of this tension such as the Revolt of the Admirals in 1949.

Manic! 11-09-2018 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8927788)
While this may be true, the chain of command of the military of many countries is topped by civilian governments. This system has long caused tension between the military and government and there are examples in US history of this tension such as the Revolt of the Admirals in 1949.

We are talking about the US not some 3rd world dictatorship.

westopher 11-09-2018 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8927789)
We are talking about the US not some 3rd world dictatorship.

Potato potawto at this point.

GS8 11-09-2018 04:07 PM

Antifa vs the NRA

Hardcore battle royal hell in a cell match at WrestleMania 35

I'd watch

welfare 11-09-2018 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8927786)
It needs to be tackled nationwide, otherwise you just need to drive a few hours to a state with lax laws and then drive back.

The gun used was bought in the same state.

welfare 11-09-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8927805)
Antifa vs the NRA

Hardcore battle royal hell in a cell match at WrestleMania 35

I'd watch

:awwyeah:
the crap I'm reading in this thread is the exact fuel the nra uses to drive its propaganda campaigns.
Lmao

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Originally Posted by SiRV (Post 8927724)
How about a complete ban on guns period. Find all gun owners, take the guns, search people entering the state for weapons, and collect those guns as well.


Mr.Money 11-09-2018 04:49 PM

only Canadians make sense but not the other people in their own country at this point :fulloffuck:

MarkyMark 11-09-2018 06:14 PM

I'm kind of over the gun debate since America is a lost cause, but it intrigues me to know how many non crazy US citizens would be willing to die to keep their guns.

Manic! 11-09-2018 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8927815)
I'm kind of over the gun debate since America is a lost cause, but it intrigues me to know how many non crazy US citizens would be willing to die to keep their guns.

None.

SiRV 11-09-2018 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8927758)
The second amendment protects the first.
Socialists who are more than happy to give every last ounce of control to the state don't seem to grasp that.


The left should rise up in arms now that Jim Acosta's been given the boot then

Raid3n 11-09-2018 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8927738)
From what i found it was actually $100 for license. And it only lasts 2 years.
Regardless, do you think a lengthier training course and slightly higher fee would have deterred this? Be honest.

no, but an in depth background check and reference check might.

welfare 11-09-2018 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SiRV (Post 8927830)
The left should rise up in arms now that Jim Acosta's been given the boot then

Lmao. Yea cuz Jim Acosta having his Whitehouse press pass suspended is a violation of his first amendment rights :Orly:
You're not too familiar with how that works i see.
Typical libtard dipshittery

welfare 11-09-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raid3n (Post 8927831)
no, but an in depth background check and reference check might.

From what i read the California background check looked fairly extensive. And the license issued by the local sheriff with its issuance and even stipulations at his/her discretion.
Maybe a reference check would help sure. Maybe the sheriff deals with that. I don't know.
Honestly, it's California. They're like the most regulated state in the country. Not really known for being lax on anything.
Except illegal immigrants of course. But that's another thread.

SiRV 11-09-2018 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8927834)
Lmao. Yea cuz Jim Acosta having his Whitehouse press pass suspended is a violation of his first amendment rights :Orly:
You're not too familiar with how that works i see.
Typical libtard dipshittery

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free..._United_States

welfare 11-09-2018 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SiRV (Post 8927838)

My God you are that stupid.
Is he impeding cnn from reporting the (fake) news?
Where in that law does it state that the president must allow any reporter to Whitehouse press conferences?

SiRV 11-09-2018 10:45 PM

Your dead mom is rolling in her grave son

welfare 11-09-2018 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SiRV (Post 8927841)
Your dead mom is rolling in her grave son

I see you're done attempting to formulate any sort of coherent argument and are now just spouting off random "offensive" remarks.

If you wanna cry about poor little Jimmy Acosta, take your cock slut ass over to the Trump thread.
If you wanna talk about my dead mom, shoot me a pm. Anytime. Anywhere.
Wish you would. Doubt you will.

Manic! 11-10-2018 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8927843)
I see you're done attempting to formulate any sort of coherent argument and are now just spouting off random "offensive" remarks.

If you wanna cry about poor little Jimmy Acosta, take your cock slut ass over to the Trump thread.
If you wanna talk about my dead mom, shoot me a pm. Anytime. Anywhere.
Wish you would. Doubt you will.

Have you stopped crying unicorn tears for alex jones?

StylinRed 11-10-2018 03:31 AM

Oh wow, I'm in Australia rn and the big news is the Melbourne knife attacker

Damn merica

320icar 11-10-2018 06:50 AM

Legit question, is welfare a troll or a real opinionated person? Just from posts in every shooting thread and the trump thread I can’t tell. Not meant sarcastically, I really can’t tell


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