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11-18-2018, 10:29 PM
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#26 | I STILL don't get it
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Originally Posted by winson604 Locally I've used the Chinese Uber a bunch of times, so easy! My one experience with Uber in Honolulu was fantastic as well. Thinking back to all my taxi experiences in this City it's been a mix bag of poor to ok, never amazing. | How do you use the "Chinese" Uber?
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11-19-2018, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by etodac How do you use the "Chinese" Uber? | the one I use on WeChat.. the driver will call and speak mandarin to you, if you can't reply in mandarin then they'll most likely refuse your request
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11-20-2018, 12:43 PM
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11-20-2018, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Expresso | Expected. Good luck becoming a "tech hub" that attracts any sort of money and sustained development with that kind of backward mentality from the government.
Still an overpriced unsustainable backwater resort town with limited industry backbone.
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11-20-2018, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by etodac How do you use the "Chinese" Uber? | It's an app called Udi that works like Uber but the main difference is after you book it they'll call you right away and you need to be able to speak Mandarin orbif you're lucky Cantonese. Anytime I've used it luckily I had a friend who can help. I'm Chinese myself so it helps when they come grab me and see I'm not White. I've heard stories as soon as they see you're not Asian they'll leave possibly fearing it's a sting operation or otherwise. https://www.kuaiche.ca/udi-kuaiche-r...ling-taxi-app/
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11-21-2018, 07:00 AM
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#31 | they call me the snowman
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How in the hell is a Chinese uber allowed to run?
If there was a caucasian only ride share people would be livid. But this is okay? |
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11-21-2018, 07:17 AM
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obvs a very grey area at best
and afaik it's not like it officially discriminates non-Mandarin speakers, but if they can't communicate with you coherently, they can refuse service
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11-21-2018, 07:19 AM
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It's been running for years and the gov knows about it... many people I know get picked up from the airport and driven around for pretty reasonable fees. I think they're just ill-prepared to deal with it? How do you stop an app? The cars have no identifiers whatsoever on them, you can't tell if it's just family picking someone up or not.
It's not just driving too, various wechat groups offer services and food delivery, grocery service, handyman work, etc... it's all underground biz cash or wechat pay so the gov gets zero out of it. Just another example of non-contribution to Canada while living here.
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11-21-2018, 08:21 AM
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#34 | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by mdnx Will also take the people who want to drive for ride share a decent amount of time and cost. https://www.icbc.com/FAQ/Pages/Drive...x?QAQuery=uber
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To declare how you plan to use the vehicle so the insurance can be properly assigned a specific taxi or limousine rate class. (IE: Business class)
At a minimum a Class 4 (restricted). This is a commercial driver’s licence, which allows you to drive up to 10 persons including the driver.
Licence plates specially designated for taxis and limousines.
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A licence approved by BC’s Passenger Transportation Board (PTB). Find out more on PTB requirements.
A National Safety Code Safety Certificate.
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Just get a class 1 license. You wouldn't need a plate designated to identify as taxi or limousine would you? And it covers everything except for a class 6 - motorcycle license. Or would you still require to have a specific plate to now identify your vehicle? Quote:
Originally Posted by Nlkko "Level playing field" is just some PR words from these cab companies. Additional criminal record check for what? To add unnecessary cost? Uber does its own check which comply with local laws and even rerun its check on current drivers periodically.
"Significant changes for insurance packages" is another PR words for "we're gonna flood you with unnecessary costs so it'll become so expensive that you'd never get Uber".
If it does work out though, would love to see these cab companies improve their services and prices, or go bankrupted like they should. |
If Uber does it's own checks periodically do DL checks I'm sure someone will want to find a way to have it tied in to ICBC somehow. Suspended license? Your vehicle simply won't show up. Use someone else's car would be an easy way around it but if I got in a Uber and the guy has a suspension for a DUI that I'm unaware of I'd rather not drive with him being sober or not.
Can someone explain to me how taxis work? For the level playing field part, I rarely take taxi's since I barely ever drink, but do the cab drivers rent the cab for a night from the taxi company for X amount a night and after they've covered that it's profit? If so, would this not allow them to not rent and directly use their personal vehicle and keep everything earned? Quote:
Originally Posted by originalhypa How in the hell is a Chinese uber allowed to run?
If there was a caucasian only ride share people would be livid. But this is okay?  | Double standards  you should know the white devil man can't do anything that doesn't include every other group of people without being labeled as a racist |
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11-21-2018, 08:21 AM
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The Udi app is in English now and accepts credit card, does it mean non-Chinese can use it too?
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11-21-2018, 08:45 AM
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#36 | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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I don't see why they weren't allowed in the first place. Communication is simple enough. Select an address where you need to be picked up and have an alert when they arrive and select a drop off destination. You're not obligated to speak with them while they drive.
5 star review - they came on time and took you there problem free.
1 star review - they showed up and refused to accept the pick up and drove away.
Only used them a few times in different countries and it pretty much went the way I just wrote above. 5 star reviews to all of them that were used.
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11-21-2018, 09:09 AM
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Isn't the whole point of Uber that the market dictates how many are on the road? It sounds like you'll still be waiting on the busy holidays or weekends downtown with this stripped down version they want to give us.
Why does everything here have to suck so much dick.
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11-21-2018, 09:09 AM
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I used Uber and Grab in Myanmar of all places. Got us from the airport and to the various spots round town with no issues. Only issue was some of the drivers took a while to get to us as they didn't know how to navigate via GPS since we didn't speak Burmese and couldn't tell them our address.
It's tough for me to fathom how we still don't have these services in Vancouver, legitimately.
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11-21-2018, 12:42 PM
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#39 | they call me the snowman
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark Isn't the whole point of Uber that the market dictates how many are on the road? It sounds like you'll still be waiting on the busy holidays or weekends downtown with this stripped down version they want to give us.
Why does everything here have to suck so much dick. | Buddy, you hit it on the head right here.
The market should dictate what happens, but in BC there seems to be this mindset that the gov't needs to protect certain industries. In some ways it's good, such as dairy and produce. But there are so many situations where gov't interjection causes monopolies such as the taxi industry.
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11-21-2018, 08:53 PM
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how does the taxi industry have a grip on the balls of BOTH liberals and NDP?
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11-22-2018, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero how does the taxi industry have a grip on the balls of BOTH liberals and NDP? | Since 2005 the NDP has held at least 40% of the power in each gov't. South Burnaby, Whalley, Newton, South, west and east Van have always been NDP strongholds. So the power is there, technically.
Plus, Uber has only really been a thing for the last few years. We weren't talking about this in 2009.
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11-22-2018, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero how does the taxi industry have a grip on the balls of BOTH liberals and NDP? | You have to understand the Taxi Industry is owned by mostly Sikhs and they come in droves to lobby governments for change. So if they want something done they organize all their families to vote and that's a lot of people.
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07-08-2019, 04:44 PM
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It's coming (in September apparently) https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...arting-sept-16
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07-08-2019, 05:27 PM
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The Passenger Transportation Act regulations will require criminal record checks and annual driver record checks for any driver working with a ride-hailing company, and will introduce a new 30-cent per-trip fee and a $5,000 annual licence fee for the company.
| Who the eff is going to want to drive for Uber with this BS tax
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07-08-2019, 09:06 PM
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Tax is fine, passed to consumers. Class 4 requirements is BS which likely dampens the platforms' network effect a bit but I'm sure Uber drivers will overcome it. Alberta also requires class 4.
It's uncivilized that you cannot hail a fucking car from your phone. All the current cab companies' apps are jokes.
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07-08-2019, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by originalhypa How in the hell is a Chinese uber allowed to run?
If there was a caucasian only ride share people would be livid. But this is okay?  | no, youre totally wrong
if there was a white ride share only. some SJW white person would rat them out.
that is the difference LOL
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07-08-2019, 11:54 PM
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Who's taken the taxi version of ride sharing? You know it's all stall tactics when the taxi industry can already start ride sharing and Uber and Lyft can't yet.
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07-09-2019, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nlkko Tax is fine, passed to consumers. Class 4 requirements is BS which likely dampens the platforms' network effect a bit but I'm sure Uber drivers will overcome it. Alberta also requires class 4.
It's uncivilized that you cannot hail a fucking car from your phone. All the current cab companies' apps are jokes. | I think the problem with the $5,000 licensing fee is how do you pass it on to consumers? Sure you charge more but how much more?
If you're a full time driver you might do 1800-1900 rides a year a part time driver might do half that or less. How do you add it into the fee so that the drivers can recoup enough to make if feasible? I'm sure for the full time drivers they'll do enough volume to make it work but the amount the drivers make is already fairly skinny and might not make any sense to work part time which is probably a good chunk of the drivers.
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07-09-2019, 08:51 AM
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I'm pretty sure the 5K fee is for the company like Uber or Lyft and not each individual driver
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07-09-2019, 09:46 AM
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5k is for the company if I read it correctly. They wipe their ass with 5k.
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