Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9176481)

NDP had no power either with what 26 NDP members in last Parliament but they got 100x more done (whether you agree with their vision or not) than all of what 124 Cons MPs !!

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9176467)

This "friendly tone" could have been established a month ago when Carney became Prime Minister. The negotiations should have started a month ago and as a result Canada has lost valuable time. There was no reason to delay this until after the election, which ultimately hurts Canada's economy.

I live in the reality where Canada cannot just pivot away from the USA in the short or medium term. Our trade infrastructure is not developed enough to expand trade with Asia or Europe. It takes years to understand local trade regulations, build connections and networks. It doesn't really make too much sense for a Canadian firm to retool for a new market while abandoning an established market they know well.

I was expecting Carney to be far more prepared than he actually was. His comments may have offered you some sort of emotional satisfaction, but it is not an end in and of itself. We should have some sort of willingness to address any legit concerns that come from the USA in order for Canada to drive the negotiations forward.

There are policies like: Digital Services Tax, Online Streaming Act, foreign ownership in Banks that will probably be at the centre of any negotiation. These concerns didn't suddenly appear under Trump, Biden wanted to address it too. Canada could align with OECD frameworks and that would satisfy US concerns without any real downsides for us. We could change banking ownership in Canada to introduce more competition from foreign banks. Canada has room to negotiate to ultimately get rid of the tariffs.

Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 9176526)

Optically, Carney hit it out of the park on this visit.

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9176491)

Anyone up for a bet? I’ll bet anyone $500 the liberals miss their housing targets. 3 weeks into a platform and you already know it will be a failure? #Progress

Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9176580)

At least the Liberal proposal is somewhat plausible and not built on full on lies.

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9176516)

It's so odd watching some people in this thread critique a 30 minute meeting with Trump.

What did you expect Carney to do, punch Trump in the face? Do some people seriously think politics is the WWE? :lol

If anything I think he handled the meeting quite well, the trick with Trump as a classic narcissist is to let him spew his crap, don't argue on camera, don't interrupt him.

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. At the end of the day, Carney is right, they're our largest trading partner, you won't get anywhere being confrontational at the jump with a guy like Trump, especially on camera.

The meetings to be had behind closed doors will be all the more salient in my opinion.

Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9176580)

At least the Liberal proposal is somewhat plausible and not built on full on lies. If they miss it won't be because they lied to the public.

FWIW, some housing experts said that both the Libs and Cons were promising far more housing than is needed and if they hit their goals they'd end up creating oversupply and, even worse, when things slow down we'd have a lot of unemployed trades with nothing to do. A more realistic number that's been thrown around is 330-350k a year for 10 years (The Libs are aiming for 500k/yr by year 10). My back of napkin says 330-350k probably isn't quite enough but it's in the ballpark depending on immigration rates.

Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9176580)

Like how the Cons said they'd build 2.3m houses in 5 years? A promise that works out to roughly 3-4x what the Liberals are promising while spending less on housing? At least the Liberal proposal is somewhat plausible and not built on full on lies. If they miss it won't be because they lied to the public.

FWIW, some housing experts said that both the Libs and Cons were promising far more housing than is needed and if they hit their goals they'd end up creating oversupply and, even worse, when things slow down we'd have a lot of unemployed trades with nothing to do. A more realistic number that's been thrown around is 330-350k a year for 10 years (The Libs are aiming for 500k/yr by year 10). My back of napkin says 330-350k probably isn't quite enough but it's in the ballpark depending on immigration rates.

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9176598)

:lol

Carney went all the way to Washington without having an established agenda on how to address the tariffs. Trump made it explicitly clear before the meeting that he doesn't even know why Carney wants to meet him(because Carney didn't come prepared with a plan). During that press conference, Carney did not once acknowledge any legit concerns that come from the USA in order for Canada to drive the negotiations forward. These concerns didn't suddenly become issues under Trump, they were issues under the Biden administration too.

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9176596)

Life is funnier seen through the AI! :lol:lol:lol

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9176601)

A promise that doesn’t need to be fulfilled now so kind of irrelevant no?

Again with the is, “the party that isn’t in power promised this so….”

You could give Concorde a blank cheque and they couldn’t build this number.

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9176602)

You’ve got so much insider info bro! Were you in the room?

What else can you tell us about exactly what Trump and Carney talked about and are thinking / doing with their time?