Pretty much nailed it. I completely understand the reaction passengers, and even now North American flight attendants are having with this. The media has blown the situation right up. With some countries grounding the aircraft. Some of these countries have awful standards, some of these countries have competing products which really can capitalize on a bad Boeing reputation. Some are just jumping on the bandwagon. I even heard a rumour Sunwing is jumping on the train too. Great PR for them to get a “safe” reputation. Mean while, the big players are keeping things going.

The flight attendants are getting worried now, and I don’t blame them. There isn’t much information out there and they really do not have the knowledge to make a knowledgeable decision.

When you start seeing unionized pilots walking off the line using a right to refuse unsafe work, that is when I would be getting worried as a passenger. Until that point, buy some Boeing stock, and in a few days reap the benefits.

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lack of training with new flight features added in,there is going to be a class action lawsuit from everyone if that's the case.

imagine if the safety feature overrides everything you're trying to gain control still putting it in a nose dive,the feeling of G-forces going down in that would freak the fuck out of anyone.

Every Boeing has a very similar memory item for uncontrolled stabilizer trim. This is nothing new. It’s just a new feature which could fail making the pilot do the same drill they were trained to do.

Good quick article on the life of the 737 Max itself, from conception up to today

Canada grounded. Yahtzee!

President Cheetoo is gonna create another Twitterstorm if the FAA decides to follow Canada's decision to ground all 737 Max 8s. :lawl:

"Fake News!" according to Cheeto? :facepalm:

So my girlfriend and I are going to Mexico next month, flying with WestJet on a Boeing Max aircraft booked through Expedia.

Am I responsible for making my own arrangements? Or will Expedia / WestJet do their dilligence?

TIA

Maybe call or email them? That's the best way to find out.

Maybe pick up a phone and call them?

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Not worth it.
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You didn't see his:

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Well, the show is done. Canada and US (Trump instead of FAA though) have both grounded 737 Max 8/9.

Just heard a little intel this could be a loooong process. I take back my guess of Boeing going up in a few days. Crazy

My parents were heading to Cuba on Sunday for vacation at a 5 star hotel.... I'm guessing that won't be happening now.........

Don’t be so sure.

The airlines have pretty good ways of dealing with these situations. Expect delays, and changes of schedule. But chances are you will get where you need to go.

Hopefully it works out with them having a few days advance notice to have the airlines alter a few planes around. I think they're just taking a max8 from here to montreal and then taking a different connecting flight from there.
Really hoping they get to go. I want to house sit so I can chill with my dogs haha

Trump kind of has a point in his tweet..

Watch some documentaries on Concorde. A super sonic jet which was way beyond its time however the cockpit and flight instruments (to my understanding at least) were very rudimentary.

I have to rebook 4 flights with AC, still waiting on the line. Lucky for me my first flight isn't until May. I feel for people who have flights this week because AC uses the MAX on a lot of routes.

I actually agree with Trump for a change as well.

My favourite example is the disappearance of the dipstick on Porsches. Why is there a need to replace a time-tested, cheap, and dead simple solution with electronic sensors that is prone to inaccurate readings, and expensive to replace when it fails?

The same goes for (side) rearview mirros. Why replace them with cameras when mirrors are dead simple?
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One just has to look at accident statistics to see how this technology has not only increased the safety margins of flying but also the efficiency and scheduling.

He has a point in regards to being an engineer vs a pilot. Best case scenario would be using this technology as much as you can while having pilots who are as proficient at hand flying as they were in the ‘70s in case things go sideways.

Luckily in Canada, prior to the last couple of years pilots generally had to get their hands dirty with some nasty hands and feet flying in the middle of nowhere with your first few jobs. Amazing experience which is not trained anywhere, nor really experienced in many places around the world. The new generation of “airline” pilots never get this experience.

Is it time to buy Boeing stocks now?

Agree about the dipsticks, the electronic level sensors should augment the manual method, not remove it.

But there are some benefits to going to cameras instead of mirrors:
1) Smaller footprint = Less wind resistance (fuel economy) and better forward visibility
2) Expanded view options (ability to chose wide/narrow angle etc on the fly)
3) Digital enhancement capabilities (Improve night views etc)

I would wait for lawsuits first.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47562727

Boeing grounds global aircraft fleet of 737 Max's