Media, politics, lack of due diligence from oversight like the FAA. It opened a can full of worms. There are issues with the aircraft. Fact of the matter is, the issues with the aircraft still being grounded are issues related to the 737 as a whole, not just the max. Some articles I’ve read in the past 6 months state Airbus has similar issues, it’s not grounded because it did not crash.

In reality it does seem to lack some detail regarding the faults with the aircraft, and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a Boeing Funded article, it brings up some really valid points.

This isn't one of the movies from the Final Destination series

Well there are some who believe it's predestined.

Nice avatar

why the hell these lcc still flying max 8. Booked my flight from bkk-nrt in dec. didn't realize then, plane is max 8. :heckno:

gonna update my will.

Another great article... another great longgg article. This time more of a hit on Boeing.

https://dewaynenet.wordpress.com/201...-max-disaster/

I’m about 99.9% sure Boeing grounded the aircraft worldwide. They probably have not updated their system to reflect the change. The odd bird is out flying, but non with passengers onboard.

Whether that article is bias or not hopefully these crashes may result in pilots realizing they need more “airmanship” or whatever it’s called there.

Kinda scary to think some pilots literally fly on auto pilot (both literal and physical) for most of their career. Need dem Sully’s?

And people think autonomous cars will be the norm in the near future.

The average person has no idea the kind of fire they’re playing with when it comes to automation.

hud_91gt posted this article https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/m...x-crashes.html

Great read!

To be fair, comparing self-driving cars to fully automated aircraft is not a proper comparison due to the complexities of aviation. There are so many other factors at play in aircrafts compared to automobiles.

Except pedestrians and dogs! Lol

The only thing needing manual intervention is take off and landing. If you want to compliment a pilot, say good landing as that requires skill for a good landing.

I was on a flight once where a junior was landing the plane and as it was approaching, the pilot forcefully made the plane come down with a bang. That was not a pleasant landing. Been in too many rough landings that I hate the approach now.

The last two flights I was on, west jets 787 to Dublin and Transat A330 from London Gatwick were both two of the smoothest landings I’ve felt. Especially the A330 back in YVR, it was like butter

Look at these scary ass landings...

Although a pilot would always appreciate a “nice landing” comment, and the rough ones that happen once in a while make one want to hide behind their hat. It has no merit on the pilots overall skill. Landing are generally manually flown. Every pilot under the sun repeats this process. Some are good at it, some aren’t great. Although there can be a relationship between a pilots landings and hand eye cowardination, it is a bit far fetched to label one a “good or bad pilot” based on their landing.

A good pilot will be skilled with their hands and feet, as well as extremely knowledgeable in their trade. Being prepared for every circumstance they can think of is much more important then the greaser at the end of the day.

...and to continue that point. A lot of the “greasers” are probably less safe then a nice firm touchdown that you experienced the prior leg. A lot of pilots will try very hard to grease it on, and by doing this float down the runway a few inches from the pavement waiting for the tires to spin up and the oleos to start compressing. Eating up precious pavement. A good example is military pilots (especially the fighter guys). I’ve flown with more fighter pilots which just smack it on like they were landing on an aircraft carrier. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. The plane is meant to take the hit. More important is they put the airplane on the pavement where they wanted, with plenty of room to stop.

website says max8, plane shows up is a 733 :troll:

if its raining, you want the pilot to smash it in :lol

So FAA knew the Max would have a high rate of crashes in its lifetime, after the first crash, but still allowed the Max to operate, until the second crash. Which they now call a "mistake"

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50750746

I don't understand what the hell is taking so long to fix the 737's ... I mean if it is hardware, change the damn sensor/part. If it is software, surely, someone has the right coding now.

its physically fucked, they thought software could've fixed it but nope...

kinda like diesel gate and how all the TDI got the massive detuned after the fix

The MCAS software was fixed months ago..

did i see a news prompt that Boeing is stopping production of the MAX in January?

so they're still making them after all this?? lol

They’ve got a tonne of orders from recent displays like Dubai air show etc.

However they are being branded as the -8 and -9 instead of max to the carriers

They’ve been making them because they figure it would be a quick fix. This is the first “uhoh” this could be a while moment I’ve seen. Or they are just running out of
Room to park the things. Haha. The more they build, the more money coming in as soon as they are flying again. Keep the workers working, stopping production would be a nightmare.