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Old 11-25-2019, 03:16 PM   #126
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When I was in Europe a few years back I saw one pickup truck and it was a F150. Thats one in 11 days.
Pickup trucks (at least in the UK outside of London) seem to be somewhat fashionable right now.

Nothing like here though.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:18 PM   #127
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That's in 3 days. How many Mach E mustangs has ford sold?
They haven't sold anything, a $100 fully refundable deposit isn't a sale. If this deposit wasn't refundable I bet 80+% of these "orders" wouldn't exist.
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well duh, it's a concept vehicle 2+ years out

even if you order a production Toyota/GM vehicle, the deposit is refundable
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Dear 8lb, 7oz. Baby Jesus,

Please allow this to be a mighty prank with the real Tesla truck being unveiled in short order.

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Personally I think Elon is trolling everyone with this truck hence why he's only asked for a $100 deposit. He'll probably show the "real" truck at some point.

Also, great time for his buddies to buy Tesla stock on the dip.
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:05 PM   #132
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That's in 3 days. How many Mach E mustangs has ford sold?
I read it somewhere that one of the major mags said Ford got 14k pre-order in til that day, so over a week after the announcement.

Seriously though, truckers are hard to please. There have been an eternal fight between Ford/GMC/RAM supporters. No matter what Tesla introduced, they were not going to be pleased.

That's why I think it was very smart of Tesla to make decisions to go after people who need a PU truck rather than people who drive a PU truck.
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Ford wants a $500 refundable deposit. I bet if they made it $100 they would have more pre orders.

Tesla wanted $1000 for the model 3. They are doing a good job marketing the cybertruck.
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Ford wants a $500 refundable deposit. I bet if they made it $100 they would have more pre orders.

Tesla wanted $1000 for the model 3. They are doing a good job marketing the cybertruck.
Even at $100 I don't think they would get that many more orders. To put down a deposit you have to set up an appointment with a dealer and that's kind of a pain. What takes less than 5 minutes with Tesla it takes an hour plus with Ford. Also with Tesla you don't get phone calls and texts if you decide not to put down a deposit.
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Even at $100 I don't think they would get that many more orders. To put down a deposit you have to set up an appointment with a dealer and that's kind of a pain. What takes less than 5 minutes with Tesla it takes an hour plus with Ford. Also with Tesla you don't get phone calls and texts if you decide not to put down a deposit.
Yeah... the no-dealership approach is going to ultimately win people over the same way e-commerce did to B&M retails. Once you get used to it, there's no going back.

No need to haggle or anything... just transparent and simple. That's all it needs to be. With traditional car dealership, depending on how good of a negotiator one is, the price of the very same car varies (assuming everything else stay equal). There's no need for that. Only reason that exists is to maximize dealer's profit, so dealer can get the most out of a person's willingness to pay for a particular vehicle.
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definitely one of the pro's of tesla...cutting out the middle man

anyone ever repair a delorean body? damage to panels likely mean a write-off?
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definitely one of the pro's of tesla...cutting out the middle man

anyone ever repair a delorean body? damage to panels likely mean a write-off?
DeLorean is very different than Cybertruck. Delorean is still a body on frame design, while CT exoskeleton is unibody.

You can get a better idea looking at Honda Ridgeline than Delorean.
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definitely one of the pro's of tesla...cutting out the middle man

anyone ever repair a delorean body? damage to panels likely mean a write-off?
I don’t think there is enough information on the design of the truck to claim how their “exoskeleton” design works. But 80% of the cars on the road are unibody.

I think the point your getting at is the stainless panels. With today’s body shop techniques, your probably right. Cutting out and welding in new stainless isn’t an issue. Finding some skilled panel beaters that can do the whole job without any fillers will be another scenario. It’s doable with the right skilled hands, but time consuming and honestly, not many people out there have those skills anymore. More than likely all the panels are replaceable just like every other car on the road. Exoskeleton was just a fancy way to say unibody and try and put down the body on frame trucks.
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What if the panels are somewhat interchangeable and they offer different styling options....

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^ they want to release a matte black option...i bet you can get it wrapped in an hour or two

this was a decent analysis

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^ they want to release a matte black option...i bet you can get it wrapped in an hour or two

this was a decent analysis

https://youtu.be/ND2X49-aBFQ?t=322
yes, you can wrap it. https://dbrand.com/shop/tesla-cybertruck-skins
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^I love that the truck is still years out and that company is showing "sale" prices.
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the one and only electric truck i'd advocate for is the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 Series electric conversion performed by Tembo (although i think there's another company out there that also converts the Land Cruiser).

It's a shame the Land Cruiser isn't certified for on-road use in Canada (mines and off-road use only). But should be able to be registered after 15 years...

https://www.tembo4x4-elv.com/
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Although the specs aren't as high as a consumer would maybe expect, keep in mind that its mainly made for mine use, so range isn't really an issue for those purposes.
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So it would last forever?

Imo the perfect all around work, play, tow truck would be the CC 4x4 Dyna. Configure the bed however you want (flatdeck, tilt, box w/folding sides, cube), lightweight, small footprint. Function > form.

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So it would last forever?

Imo the perfect all around work, play, tow truck would be the CC 4x4 Dyna. Configure the bed however you want (flatdeck, tilt, box w/folding sides, cube), lightweight, small footprint. Function > form.

But can you get them in LHD? I searched for a while for an older diesel offering of this style truck. They only seem to use them in the wrong parts of the world... except maybe Korea
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