I'm sure the next election will have conservatives all over this and use it as one of their highlights promising to reverse the ban if voted in.

I was responding to the idea that this is just a collecting thing, and collectors should be able to keep these guns and not use them.

So my thought is, if you're not going to use them, why do they need to be functional?

Car collectors may require their collectables to be functional, but in that case the function isn't "killing people"

This is a topic that can be discussed a thousand times but if those supporting the ban have never owned a firearm or been a recreational shooter/hunter then its a waste of a conversation. I've my RPAL and none of the firearms I own were on the banned list but its only a matter of time I suppose.

This os going to be a huge hit for The Range indoor shooting range in Langley. Their whole selling point is that you don't need a license to fire their guns, you just need to have an instructor with you the entire time. They've a 50cal rifle there that coats 20$ a shot. Some nights I'll hear that gun go off 20 times within a 1 - 2 hour period. Half their selection is based on assault rifles and pistols... This will destroy them



Skinnypupp, your question about why we need them functuonal. I only speak for myself but if I purchase something legally and it gets to the point where it needs to be rendered non functional, I'll simply remove the firing pin. Gun is 100% useless without that. No welding pieces shut. I want it to be as functional as it can. I would like them to be fully functional just because I don't feel i should have to suffer due to a few bad apples

Is it confirmed that a shooting range that supplies the guns while you're there isn't exempt? This seems like a great way to let people get their assault rifle fix without actually having to own one.

They're not confiscating guns... The buyback is not mandatory (should be though)

I find it interesting that the dentist that went nuts was an unlicensed owner though

But glad to see the government doing something, instead of nothing, like our neighbours to the south

Canada should do something about all the arms being smuggled over the border too, but that would require more stringent checks on ppl crossing the border, and they won't have that

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52505765

Based on what? Genuine question, but the past changes to things like semi-auto magazine capacities didn't result in banning all guns.

IIRC the guns in the course just had a hole drilled in them and no firing pin, or are guns deactivated for the purpose of training different from guns deactivated for normal civilian ownership?

As a gun owner, I would be absolutely content with this ruling if it:

-was a mandatory buy back at a generous market value.
-was a blanket ban, and didn't exclude native groups
-was grandfathered, so those who currently own could follow previous rules for use and transport, but ban making sale, trade etc

Just because a person does not own a gun does not mean guns don't affect them.

As for that gun range in Langley tough luck but thats part of doing business.

I'd suspect this one gun that was traced back to Canada is the gun he took from Const. Stevenson.
If so, the rest came from across the border.
Not sure if that was mentioned here yet or not.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ting-1.5544180

It wont affect them the same degree as it would to others.

Using that same line there are you going to apply it to all the small restaurants that are going under due to covid?
Can't afford to run your business anymore and make rent because you've got no sales? Tough luck.. Should've been a better restaurant. Have fun watching what you created get pissed in to a toilet.


This affects me more than it does you. You have 0 care about how it affects me and it's fine. I'm sure it goes both ways with other subjects in each of our lives. This just happens to be the flavor of the week.

Government didn't even force more stringent checks when covids was declared a pandemic. People were coming into this country for weeks and all they were required to do was answer a questionnaire on a computer screen. We have the most inept and useless group of idiots in charge of this country right now.

Cross border guns won't be an issue anymore. Criminals can just roll up to the res and buy whatever they want. This is going to create a whole new network of illegal gun ownership filtering through aboriginal communities. Its FN tradition, before the white man came, to use assault rifles in their hunts. :lol Fuck this government is retarded.

I really doubt that.

This gun ban has nothing to do with safety. It’s all about taking your rights away and that’s why everyone’s arguments and opinions aren’t going anywhere.

It’s very similar to the VI thread. If it effects you, you care. If it doesn’t, who gives a shit.

People who mod there cars take care of them better than your average joe. It’s the same with gun owners. They take care of their shit and make sure it’s stored securely and safely

Now if legal firearms were causing many deaths and mass shootings in canada, sure let’s ban guns. I get it. But to do it out of the blue for no apparent reason, well, that’s just not right imo

Compared to USA, our regulations on gun control is very "strict". Looking at Asia (Hong Kong, Singapore, malaysia etc ... not Thailand hahaha), you'll be blown away how Canada is so open /free to even go to a gun range.

let's see how this pans out; will grandfathered laws come into affect, will the next government throw this out the door during the next election....

we all know how Harper's registry worked out.

Majority of the mass shootings in Canada are done by legal gun owners. Also, it was not out of the blue it was a campain promise.

How many mass shootings have we had that were done with legally owned ar15’s? Because to say the majority of mass shootings are done by legal gun owners makes it sound like it’s happening on the daily. Also, why didn’t we do this ban when these mass shooting sprees happened?

You’re also correct about the campaign promise so I take that back.

Can someone explain how this ban was able to be implemented without first being passed through parliament? Or even voted on? With a minority government?
TIA.

lets ban assult rifles because they kill people

so i can still walk into a mall with two pistols and 10 mags

:facepalm:

Agree or disagree with this ban, but passing laws without a democratic process is called one thing - Dictatorship. Anyone who agrees with how this ban was put in place needs a serious wake up call.

I'll accept that then. I agree on the monetary side in terms of those consequences. You can't introduce a law out of nowhere and essentially force folks to lose money on their purchases, especially for businesses as well, their purchased stock now loses a ton of value as a result of this.

I definitely don't agree with that point, that's wrong for sure. We can agree on that.

I haven't checked and memorized every post but do you have an RPAL?

I do.

Therefore me being told I'm now no longer allowed to buy firearms that are deemed "assault rifles" which are some that I had intentions of purchasing eventually down the road.

If you dont have an RPAL and never had any intentions of getting one then yes, this affects me more than it does you. I'm the one thats having my rights stripped away.

But by what means was this government able to circumvent the process?

They issued an Order In Council - essentially an executive order. It is usually used to add addendum to a law already in place but nothing of this magnitude.

So could this be challenged in court?
seems like it could be. And i feel like it might not hold up well either.

I didn't know you had it so ruff. How are you going to survive?

18 years ago a legal gun owner thought a 25 cent bullet was cheaper than a divorce. So he shot his estranged wife while she was getting gas with her 13-year-old daughter. I was the one working that day. But that's nothing compared to the pain and suffering you are going threw. it's not worse than looking at women with a hole blown thru her as her daughter screams I want to see my mommy as a customer holds her back. You might want to start a go fund me page so you can get some counseling for all the pain and suffering you are feeling.