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I guess if I can't purchase any assault style weapons I'll just have to fill that void and purchase some handguns. On the bright side the ammo is cheaper and would give me an excuse to go to the range more often. My brothers sister inlaw was killed by a drunk driver while she was walking down the sidewalk in Surrey years ago. That was pretty traumatic for everyone having to see that.. We should probably ban alcohol while we're at it. It causes more deaths than firearms yet nobody bats an eye. See where I'm going with this? I don't vote conservative at all but come next election if one of their campaign promises is to revoke this ban, I will vote for them. |
you can almost guarantee someone will have that as a campaign promise. |
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My idea of gun control is you're trying to stop mass shootings, where killing a large amount of people would otherwise not be feasible without that particular weapon. You're not going to stop the dude who killed his wife with a hand gun because he'd just choke a bitch if that was his only option. It's not like a guy who's willing to pull a trigger on his wife isn't willing to do something else to end her life. Hey Slim, that's my girlfriend screamin' in the trunk But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you 'Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die too Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now Oh shit, I forgot, how am I supposed to send this shit out? Can't stop crazy, but you can limit the casualties. |
A mother of two, an RCMP officer, was dragged out of her car and murdered. Her children will inevitably learn of how she died someday. Whether those weapons were illegal, registered, or whatever... our government needs to show they did something, anything, to try and prevent this from happening again. I have seen images of Trudeau as a Nazi leader show up on my FB feed. I'm sorry, but as much as I care for my rights, there are some issues that require swift and immediate action to represent the country's discontent with an action. If you feel your rights are so violated, the border isn't far. Bear arms. Have fun. Kev |
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Owners of these firearms are now required to submit to the buyback or surrender their property to a licensed dealer. If they don't do so by the end of the amnesty period they become criminals. That's equivalent to confiscation, and makes surrendering mandatory. Quote:
The real elephant in the room here is this: a man in Nova Scotia who was banned from owning firearms got them illegally from the US. He then went on a shooting and arson rampage for 13hrs impersonating a police officer. He used his disguise to enter peoples homes and he pulled random cars over and executed the occupants. The RCMP never initiated with the provincial government to issue an Emergency Alert to the public as they chased their tails, this cost lives. Under-equipped officers were shot and killed (Mayorthorpe anyone? Moncton ring a bell?), and their weapons were taken and used. This was a total failure of the policing system to stop a serious criminal and protect the public, and they have learned NOTHING from past incidents. If there was ever an argument for disarming the public this is the exact opposite. We should be allowed to defend ourselves if we choose to because the police very evidently can not in every situation, especially in rural areas. The Liberal government is using the tragedy in Nova Scotia and hiding from parliament under the guise of COVID-19 to push their agenda, which as we can see holds no place in logic or reality. What Trudeau and his cabinet have done here is pure cowardice and attacks the democratic foundation of the country. It's not all about firearms. Everyone is happy to point fingers at the CCP for their actions in suppressing the outbreak the world is now dealing with. Obvious lying and manipulation of stats, pointing blame at other parties, suppressing free speech and freedom of the press.... but the same thing is happening right here in Canada. Wake up and pay attention. |
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Police officers around the country have said, long before the law was put in place, that something like this will not solve the issue of gun violence. As time goes on, assuming this law stays in place, you will see it does absolutely nothing to stop gun violence. |
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Let's talk about an industry I know, Tobacco. here are some of the rules and regulations that have changed over the years. Increase the buying age from 16 to 19. Ban cigarette packs that contain less than 20 cigarettes. add warning text to all packs add an ingredients list to all packs. add a warning picture to all packs Removethe ingredients list from all packs. Ban all small flavored cigars. (primetime/bullseye) Ban sales of more than 5 cartons to a single customer. Ban all cigarettes that are not king or regular size. (superslim, 100mm and XL) Ban menthol cigarettes. Ban all cigars that are not alcohol flavors. Ban all fruit-flavored chewing tobacco. Have plain (the same)packaging for all cigarettes. Next year, make all cigars come in plain packaging. Some higher-end cigars will not be available in Canad because we are too small of a market. Next year, change all packs to flat packs. So the warning ads are bigger. (the one on the right) https://photos.smugmug.com/Pumps/i-d...8106862-X3.jpg Any time now banning chewing tobacco and flavored nicotine pouches with a high nicotine content. (white fox/Siberia) Every time there is a package change all the old packs are sent back to the manufacture to be incinerated. We get our money back but the manufacture only gets the tax they paid back but has to eat the manufacturing cost. I haven't even talked about all the times the taxes have gone up. We have gone from $3.50 a pack to $13.00 for our cheapest pack. I know companies that have gone bankrupt. What's happening to the gun industry is no different than what's happened to other industries. I have never heard a smoker claim their rights were violated when the tobacco product they used was banned. |
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If smoking was flat out banned I could see a reason to have an outrage but as far as i can see unless those cigs are flat out banned in both USA and Canada they can easily be brought over the border and used on a daily basis and sold from your average 25 year old to a 13 year old highschool kid who wants to look cool for 20$. Of course firearms can be smuggled in as well but what's the point if you can't use them at a gun range. Sell it to some wannabe thug for 5k(most likely stolen anyways). Which do you think is more likely to happen - get banned tobacco products or get an assault rifle. Thousands of tobacco related cancer deaths is apparently nothing compared to a shooting. |
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Also know one is catching a ferry to go buy smokes from the states. They also increased the number of cigarettes in a pack to make them more expensive. No more kiddie 15 packs. plain packaging and having waring on packs have changed some peoples minds. |
I don't remember everyones background story in kife but is it yourself or another person the one who owns a gas station or something along those lines? I'm thinking tobacco sales probably make a significant amount of sales. If smoking were to be flat out banned and the loss of revenue reulted in the company folding would you be angry or accept it? Blame the government and then expect people to feel sympathy when non smokers say "meh, just another place down that sold death sticks". Smokers would be furious, shop owners would be furious, and the non smokers would be happy and rejoice. I don't wish that upon any shop or persons life they've built in a business. But I can't stand walking down the street and looking at 10,000 cigarette butts littering the sidewalk, watching people click them out of their cars while driving, standing in a group and the distinct odor that follows them everywhere. Mass shootings in canada is a drop of water in the bucket compared to tobacco deaths. Quote:
No idea the accuracy of that site. It was just the first result of tobacco deaths in Canada per year |
smoking is mostly a choice...a more appropriate stat would be 2nd hand smoking not to mention the tax revenue it brings, but let's stay on-topic just words for now, but local handgun bans coming and cbsa will ramp up contraband checks https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trud...ming-1.4922898 |
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^ I was told they make really nothing on gas.. it's the food / chocolate bars that makes money. I don't know how much tobacco / skratch and win tickets would generate too much profit margins. |
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I wonder if these tighter border measures will include reserves that straddle the US border. Where countless amounts of illicit items are smuggled with no physical restriction. I'll answer my own question; highly doubtful. |
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Federal and Provincial governments have brought in a number of laws to curb second-hand smoking. Remember when you could smoke inside a pub/club? now you can't even smoke close to an entrance of a building. |
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The fact that these laws won't change a thing for criminals and wouldn't have prevented the tragedy in NS aside... you realize the Liberal government just implemented law based on a list they found on the internet right? They copied and pasted without doing any proofreading! The list of freshly banned firearms includes websites, a locksmith business, and a fucking Facebook group. There's also no rhyme or reason to the list as it includes some shotguns, bolt-action rifles, old school rim fire, and more. Actual military weaponry like mortars, anti-tank and aircraft launchers, recoilless rifles, rocket-propelled grenades... these were all things that were never legal to begin with. Bill Blair is a former police chief (the same that allowed all the civil rights abuses during the G20 protests in Toronto) that holds a Crown Cabinet position. He takes home a salary of more than a quarter million dollars paid for by our taxes, and this is the quality of work he puts out?! How is that acceptable to anyone regardless of political leaning? He and every politician that signed off on this have no respect for the offices they hold. Start paying attention and hold them to account! |
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Some of the guns banned. https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...81&oe=5ED5200A |
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