Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8997714)

Like I said, there will be a postmortem on his cell phone activity, online presence, etc within the court case. I think it will clearly provide a picture that he never went down there to protect anything, and that his intentions were to use his weapon on someone, and get himself into a conflict.

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8997727)

$1000 for JD¹³ or anyone who can last 8 minutes and 15 seconds with my knee on there neck. 100% serious.

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8997728)

How about 2000 for Manic! to get the same dosage of fentanyl with no knee on his neck and see what happens?

Again, you are letting emotions and personal opinions/prejudice get in the way.

You'd rather ignore pieces of evidence because it doesn't support your ideology, or BLM as a whole. And you would clearly send a person to jail even if there's reasonable doubt because that fits your opinion.

That's what's so fucked up about so many BLM supporters here. Truth or evidence doesn't matter when it doesn't support their narrative.

You believe that you are on the right side of the choice, when in fact, you ignore what's "right" in the first place.

Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8997734)

Fucking gun owners man. You love to spew shit about "responsible" gun ownership and then try and defend this Kyle kid. "Well by the letter of the law he shouldn't have even had a gun on him but he was well within his right to use it" lol WTF?

Hypocrites, you don't give a fuck about being responsible it's all about who's holding the gun and who's on the receiving end of it.

Originally Posted by JD¹³ (Post 8997722)

So where's the restraint and postmortem on the incidents with George Floyd and Jacob Blake? Instead of waiting for facts to emerge from thorough investigations people immediately started burning down cities.

Jacob Blake is a rapist pedophile that resisted arrest and reached for a weapon in his vehicle. The Aunt of the 14 year old girl that he raped posted about it all on Twitter. The response? Twitter SUSPENDED HER ACCOUNT!



I implore everyone to look all this up for themselves, including the criminal records of the 'victims' in all this. Due diligence and critical thinking instead of emotional reaction would have saved lives and billions in property damage.

We are in very dangerous territory for sure, that we agree on. The danger has risen from ignorance, jumping to conclusions, virtue signalling, and violent protest / rioting by the far left. Glad all the woke athletes, most of which never even finished college, are boycotting games and wearing the names of rapists on their jerseys and helmets. What a fucking embarrassment.

Originally Posted by bcedhk (Post 8997740)

If this was accurate, wouldn't you expect this to be all over the major news agencies who are covering this?

Originally Posted by JD¹³ (Post 8997735)

I'm not defending the kid at all, I'm just presenting the facts of the laws surrounding the incident. He shouldn't have been there and was in way over his head. To that point though none of the 'protestors' on the other side should have been there either as there was a curfew in place, and some of them were armed as well. The guy who tried to pretend he was there to help then drew his pistol on the kid while on the ground was also in possession of his firearm illegally due to prior charges. Only lost his right bicep, he's very lucky.

The point is they were ALL in the wrong, and it never should have gotten to the point where people were destroying property in "protest" and a 17 year old idiot felt he needed to go protect that property because the authorities failed to maintain order.

Apparently you don't like those facts, too bad. Thanks for projecting what I do and don't care about though :alone:

Originally Posted by JD¹³ (Post 8997722)

So where's the restraint and postmortem on the incidents with George Floyd and Jacob Blake? Instead of waiting for facts to emerge from thorough investigations people immediately started burning down cities.

George Floyd has now been found by the medical examiner to have taken a lethal overdose of Fentanyl. Defense for the Minneapolis officers has entered that as evidence along with the body cam footage which shows him with white substance in his mouth in his vehicle. It's now believed that he hid those drugs from police and accidentally ingested them while resisting arrest. Due to his pre-existing health conditions the dosage was fatal. Did the one officer kneel on his neck for too long? Absolutely, but it will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not the sole cause of death. They rushed to charge all those officers before doing a thorough investigation and now they've been over-charged meaning they will likely walk after charges are dropped or plead down to maybe manslaughter and he'll get time served and defamation.

Jacob Blake is a rapist pedophile that resisted arrest and reached for a weapon in his vehicle. The Aunt of the 14 year old girl that he raped posted about it all on Twitter. The response? Twitter SUSPENDED HER ACCOUNT!

https://twitter.com/lifeisasoph
https://i.imgur.com/8tHBFRC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dBEtetR.jpg

This piece of shit getting shot sparked more riots of ignorance in Kenosha which leads us to this Kyle kid. By the letter of the law he is guilty of open carrying as a minor but he was within his right to self defense for every shot he took, even if he wasn't supposed to have the firearm. Do they intend to charge him as an adult for murder or as a minor for the firearms infraction? Can't do both. He'll also essentially walk. There now appear to be witness testimonies being released and an autopsy report that show the little guy who was thought to be the first victim wasn't even killed by the kid! Kyle's rifle shot was a grazing head wound (which makes sense given the lack of blood pouring out of the guys head in the video) after he tried to take the rifle and that he was actually shot multiple times in the back by someone else from a different direction. The mob chased the kid down and assaulted him with deadly force and intent as a result.

I implore everyone to look all this up for themselves, including the criminal records of the 'victims' in all this. Due diligence and critical thinking instead of emotional reaction would have saved lives and billions in property damage.

We are in very dangerous territory for sure, that we agree on. The danger has risen from ignorance, jumping to conclusions, virtue signalling, and violent protest / rioting by the far left. Glad all the woke athletes, most of which never even finished college, are boycotting games and wearing the names of rapists on their jerseys and helmets. What a fucking embarrassment.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...size=750%2C409

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8997750)

That is completely false, the fentanyl argument was put forward by Chavin's lawyer, the second independent examiner found Floyd died as asphyxiation via a knee to his neck. You're using the defendant lawyer's argument and placing that as fact, come on now.

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8997750)

I'm not here to cape for Jacob Blake, I don't know the man, I am only judging the police's actions to him. I've always said, there are far worse examples of police brutality that we're not even discussing anymore, and that's the problem with people like yourself.

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8997750)

You want to debate each example as if it's singular, without taking into account the vast amount of other examples. We're not even talking about Ahmaud Arbery any longer. You'd rather get caught up in the character assassination in every scenario, looking for the argument that fits, meanwhile completely ignoring the other 10 examples where the character assassination doesn't work. I find that highly convenient.

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8997750)

By the way, I love how you bring up trying him as a minor, or an adult. You've raised another item in which why we're pissed off, and looking to address these problems. Seeing as Kyle is white, he likely will be tried as a minor in fact.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/black-kid...-be-explained/
https://www.sentencingproject.org/pu...s-and-arrests/
As of 2013, black juveniles were more than four times as likely to be committed as white juveniles, Americans Indian juveniles were more than three times as likely, and Hispanic juveniles were 61 percent more likely.
Louisville Teens Charged As Adults Are Almost Always Black
https://wfpl.org/kycir-punished-loui...-always-black/

Given the above statistics, Kyle will be tried as a minor, if he was black, I wouldn't doubt he'd be tried as an adult.

Yet another perfect example of disparity, I'm laughing you'd even bring up that idea, without knowing the rampant disparity and easy example to show yet another problem with the justice system within the US.

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 9000372)

Really wish I could triple underline words like "death" for the resident troll.

I was strictly discussing the shooting death of Breonna Taylor's. The people aren't going to be rioting over "wanton endangerment after shooting into an apartment next door." People aren't shouting "Say Her Name: wanton endangerment after shooting into an apartment next door!!!"

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 9000355)

No charges against the officers involved in Breonna Taylor's death. Things are going to blow up now.

KY Attorney General:
- Police announced their presence - they were not serving a no-knock warrant.
- Boyfriend admits to hearing the police knock on the door. A neighbour witnessed the officers announcing their presence.
Boyfriend opened the door and opened fire on the officers. The officers then fired back. Breonna was hit in the crossfire, not sleeping.

Unfortunate circumstances with tragic results. I can see why the money was awarded. I can also see why no charges were brought for her death.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1308831281694859264

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 9000441)

When police announce themselves prior to a raid, they're often shot at. And these guys are typically terrible shots. Police return fire and that's all she wrote.
This is why no knock warrants save lives. The perpetrators.
She'd probably be alive right now if it were actually implemented that day.