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buhdeh 08-26-2020 04:56 PM

Always knew NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NHL. Good on their players for sitting out.

welfare 08-26-2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8997165)
He was being chased because he shot someone first. What the fk is a 17-year-old doing on the street with an assault rifle at night? FailFish

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 8997169)
he shot someone in the head first before he was jumped. the others weren't going to randomly attack a guy wielding a gun that didn't do anything.

And how do you know he didn't shoot in self defense?
How do you know it was even him?
Where is your evidence? Please share it.

Manic! 08-26-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8997192)
And how do you know he didn't shoot in self defense?
How do you know it was even him?
Where is your evidence? Please share it.


birddog3k 08-26-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by threezero (Post 8997133)
Gentirification is usually follow by displacement of the original inhabitant. Since you are an investor in US real estate (I assume you are just an investor and not someone that actually resides in the neighborhood). How do you know that the original inhabitant actually benefits? How many of those poor black american living in the area being gentrify are actual home owner?

Who is truly benefiting from a raising property prices in an ex slum? The slumlord or the unfornately renter that have no choice but to live in the ghetto to begin with, precisely due to its low rent price? Where do those people go now that they can no longer afford rent in their previous resident?

This is speaking from a position of priviledge where one already own asset. AKA you as the real estate investor. Any development is great, it improves the ares, raise the economy. All things you can tangibly measure with stats and numbers. What you can't measure is the plight of those that doesn't get records on any official numbers. You know the truly improvish and an under priviledge are doesn't show up in official statistic, Its too poor to even file a tax report and hence does not show in official data and a measurable unit.

One of the big criticism of Trump is his reliance on cherry picking statistic to support his view. For some one with an economic background, this isn't hard to do. What is harder and require empathical thinking is gauging what these numbers have missed.

Gentrification is a neat magic trick. But it isn't a inclusive solution, more akin to sweeping all the dust under the couch and calling it gone instead of vaccuming it up.

There are economic advantages for the original tenants as well. Gentrification doesn't happen overnight; your rent doesn't go from $400 a month to $900 instantly. The new uses of property allows for the community to open businesses to provide services. These businesses require people which results in an increase in wages and a decrease in unemployment. As the area grows, property values and wages rise. The increase in economic activity leads to a rise in living standards for everyone. Everyone benefits from improvement.

If you're concerned with people being displaced by gentrification, you have to ask why this has happened. This could be many reasons, poor education leading to lack of unemployment opportunities, unfortunate circumstances beyond their control, disability, and a ton more reasons. So tackle those. If we're looking at poor education, maybe it's time for an education reform. If someone doesn't know how to manage money maybe start introducing income statements and balance sheets to kids.

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8997142)
Looks like little Kyle also participated in a program for youth interested in joing law enforcement.

I'm so tired of the gas lighting. This is the type of people who are joining law enforcement. White, angry, suburban kids that want to treat the world like the Call of Duty game they play on a daily basis. People who think it makes sense to shoot indiscriminately into a group of protesters. Notice how young Kyle was "arrested" rather than being shot in the back or head?

Fascinating how that works.

This is the type of people joining law enforcement? Really? There are something like 800,000 cops nationwide in the States. If even 1% of them thought the way you suggest, we'd have a ton more killings no? There were 1004 people killed by police last year which doesn't seem like a huge number considering there are 800,000 cops.

Let's say this number of too damn high. Do you think defunding the police is the solution? And if so, why? and how would you do it?

Bouncing Bettys 08-26-2020 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by buhdeh (Post 8997191)
Always knew NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NHL. Good on their players for sitting out.

*cough Free Hong Kong

Manic! 08-26-2020 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by birddog3k (Post 8997195)
There were 1004 people killed by police last year which doesn't seem like a huge number considering there are 800,000 cops.

and how many beat up, injured, or raped?

Manic! 08-26-2020 09:15 PM

looks like the NBA season is done. Lakers and Clippers will not be playing.

Edit bucks too.

SkinnyPupp 08-26-2020 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8997213)
looks like the NBA season is done. Lakers and Clippers will not be playing.

Edit bucks too.

Source?

Edit; the thing that sucks about twitter as opposed to going to news sites, they always post the latest news but if you don't follow specific people, you don't see it


Gumby 08-26-2020 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by buhdeh (Post 8997191)
Always knew NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NHL. Good on their players for sitting out.

How many black players in the NBA vs NHL?

GS8 08-26-2020 11:21 PM


Revscene: Car Lives Matter

Manic! 08-27-2020 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8997225)

Not those cars.

buhdeh 08-27-2020 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 8997222)
How many black players in the NBA vs NHL?

NBA, WNBA, MLB, even TENNIS stopped their games.

Meanwhile you have dumbasses in the NHL crying about getting punched in the face for saying they’d vote for Trump.

dbaz 08-27-2020 05:36 AM

Not saying that the force taken was alright...clearly wasnt. but americans are now making a martyr out of someone charged with sexual assault last month

Hondaracer 08-27-2020 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by buhdeh (Post 8997228)
NBA, WNBA, MLB, even TENNIS stopped their games.

Meanwhile you have dumbasses in the NHL crying about getting punched in the face for saying they’d vote for Trump.

yea breh, free speech only matters when it aligns with your narrative.

I get the whole thing and i tip my hat to the NBA and other leagues for taking the night off, and perhaps even boycotting the rest of the season. Given the demographic of the owners you would hope it might actually enact some sort of real change, or at the very least, money put forward to start foundations and organizations, or any mention of HK, etc.

However, any mention of Lebron and the fact that this is all "bigger than money" is pretty rich.. It's not bigger than money when slave labour has to keep your shoe line pumping out.

mikemhg 08-27-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8997173)
Every comment on that video is in support of him lol.. :pokerface:

Youtube comment section is a cesspool of human garbage.

mikemhg 08-27-2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by birddog3k (Post 8997195)
There are economic advantages for the original tenants as well. Gentrification doesn't happen overnight; your rent doesn't go from $400 a month to $900 instantly. The new uses of property allows for the community to open businesses to provide services. These businesses require people which results in an increase in wages and a decrease in unemployment. As the area grows, property values and wages rise. The increase in economic activity leads to a rise in living standards for everyone. Everyone benefits from improvement.

If you're concerned with people being displaced by gentrification, you have to ask why this has happened. This could be many reasons, poor education leading to lack of unemployment opportunities, unfortunate circumstances beyond their control, disability, and a ton more reasons. So tackle those. If we're looking at poor education, maybe it's time for an education reform. If someone doesn't know how to manage money maybe start introducing income statements and balance sheets to kids.



This is the type of people joining law enforcement? Really? There are something like 800,000 cops nationwide in the States. If even 1% of them thought the way you suggest, we'd have a ton more killings no? There were 1004 people killed by police last year which doesn't seem like a huge number considering there are 800,000 cops.

Let's say this number of too damn high. Do you think defunding the police is the solution? And if so, why? and how would you do it?

I've already explained my ideas behind "defunding". I'm not going to continue to repeat myself, read my prior posts on the subject and you will see what I've suggested.

In short, defunding is not the solution. Diverting and restructuring is what we're calling for here.

In terms of the NHL, meh, I don't care if they sit out to be honest. Let's be real here, it's a predominantly white sport, the NHL has never been a bastion of diversity and inclusion, them sitting out does little to nothing to advance change to this problem. Shit in some leagues here in Canada, they're still throwing bananas onto the rink and calling black players "niggers".

https://www.latimes.com/sports/hocke...ckey-continues
https://www.nhl.com/news/banana-thro...ondon/c-589488
https://www.si.com/hockey/news/khl-i...berg-post-game
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/racial...-say-1.4972991

It is what it is.

mikemhg 08-27-2020 10:40 AM

I love how every time we have a police shooting of a black man, the character assassination begins almost instantaneously. You wonder why BLM doesn't have a stated leader? This very reasoning.

This whole situation to watch some folks defend this Kyle kid is absolutely infuriating me.
He had no reason to bloody be there, why is he crossing state lines to show up to a protest with his AR? How can anyone with a sentient mind try to attempt the mental gymnastics to find his actions acceptable? Unbelievable.

unit 08-27-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8997192)
And how do you know he didn't shoot in self defense?
How do you know it was even him?
Where is your evidence? Please share it.


he literally said he just killed that guy

welfare 08-27-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8997264)
This whole situation to watch some folks defend this Kyle kid is absolutely infuriating me.
He had no reason to bloody be there, why is he crossing state lines to show up to a protest with his AR? How can anyone with a sentient mind try to attempt the mental gymnastics to find his actions acceptable? Unbelievable.

People burning, destroying property, and committing violence had no reason to be there either I guess.
I'm sure if they weren't, he wouldn't be.
He's from Antioch Illinois. It's about the same distance from Kenosha as Vancouver is from Surrey.

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Originally Posted by unit (Post 8997265)
https://twitter.com/dhookstead/statu...48642916323330

he literally said he just killed that guy

Right before he was attacked with what looks like Molotov cocktails.
As the adage goes, play with fire get burned.


Manic! 08-27-2020 11:37 AM

Canucks have canceled their game. Looks like the NHL is getting involved now.
Edit: NHLPA has decided to cancel all hockey games.

Manic! 08-27-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8997275)
People burning, destroying property, and committing violence had no reason to be there either I guess.
I'm sure if they weren't, he wouldn't be.
He's from Antioch Illinois. It's about the same distance from Kenosha as Vancouver is from Surrey.



Right before he was attacked with what looks like Molotov cocktails.
As the adage goes, play with fire get burned.

https://youtu.be/30FP4QdryjE

The kid broke multiple laws buy transporting a gun across state lines and open carrying. You have to be 18 to open carry. Maybe the guy who got shot was just trying to make citizens arrest?

And the buzz news on youtube with 1000 subs is really creditable news source.

GGnoRE 08-27-2020 11:47 AM

How about as a start until they figure this out, they hire enough black police officers such that all police officers are paired as black + white and white officers should always defer to the black officer to lead the engagement if the situation is involving a black person. If another black man has to die in police confrontation, it should be in the hands of a black officer. There is absolutely no trust left between the police and the black community. If there aren't enough black police officers, they should actively recruit and expedite training or as an alternative, hire volunteers from the black community to shadow police officers.

westopher 08-27-2020 12:01 PM

I genuinely don’t think there’s enough black people in law enforcement or the population to do that, but to further the idea, why not have black and POC independent bodies that have the power to work with the police and hold them accountable for racist behaviour and incidents?
I don’t mean a broad body like the naacp or something like that, I mean every state and large city should have their own.

welfare 08-27-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8997278)
The kid broke multiple laws buy transporting a gun across state lines and open carrying. You have to be 18 to open carry. Maybe the guy who got shot was just trying to make citizens arrest?

And the buzz news on youtube with 1000 subs is really creditable news source.

The video is synced to the same video unit posted, but sure, whatever fits your narrative

Hondaracer 08-27-2020 12:04 PM

Weren’t both of the other officers involved in the George Floyd thing “visible minorities” ?

Don’t think that’s a solution frankly.


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