Remains of 215 indigenous children found in Kamloops

[westopher]

Originally Posted by JD¹³

Only about 1000 years.

It's well past the point for the Church to lose their tax exemption status. Religious groups like non-profits are given this exemption if they are deemed to create public benefit. They clearly do not. One years worth of property tax on church's in Canada would fund clean drinking water for every indigenous community in the country and then some. It's a start, and they fucking owe it.

The answer is literally this simple. It's a joke that it hasn't already happened.

[GLOW]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Spoiler!

was listening to the news this morning and the pope's statement. this aged well, i immediately thought of this.

[westopher]

"Hey, you're organization is directly responsible for the death and abuse of hundreds of thousands of children"
"Oh man yeah that sucks, hopefully someone does something about it" - The Pope

[MG1]

Trudeau attacking the pope in hopes of directing some of the blame to outside influences. Ultimately, Canada is to blame.

This story really bothers me. As adults, we are responsible for protecting children. All children, no matter who's they are. Every time tears are shed over a dead child because of evil doers, our humanity takes a hit.

I know there are atrocities all over the world, but this was not in some jungle or third world country. These children were taken from their homes and forced to conform....... or suffer consequences. In Canada, a country that is supposed to have rights and freedoms.

[whitev70r]

I think Canada and the Catholic church should take equal blame. I can see it now, Trudeau blames the pope, the Pope blames Trudeau ....

edit .... already happening.

Canadian archbishop says Trudeau comments on Church's role in residential schools 'unfair'

Trudeau said on Friday the Church needs to "step up" and to take responsibility.

"As a Catholic, I am deeply disappointed by the decision that the Catholic Church has taken now and over the past many years," Trudeau told reporters on Friday.

"I think it might also be good for the government to realize they’re asking us to improve the way we’re responding to this great tragedy, we’re trying, we’re making great progress, but we’ve got a long way to go always, I think the prime minister should look to his own government they also have many things to do," the archbishop said.

[westopher]

Well, the truth is, here is Trudeau apologizing for something he had no part in, but the organization he represents did.
Here's the pope, refusing to apologize for something, he, personally also had no part in, but the organization he represents did.
Trudeau has every right to be angry about it, Canada has every right to be angry about it, and most importantly indigenous Canadians have every right to be angry about it.

[6793026]

Who send these kids to the church... the government did.

Who paid the churches to operate??? SURELY it wasn't from their own pockets? It was the government.

Remember when residential schools also allowed US citizens to "adopt" these kids? Surely no one wants to adopt black kids. No one wants First Nations kids either. I wonder where the F these kids went. Most likely they disappeared somewhere. These operations were taken place cause money was involved.

There are shit your mgr did that was shady. Company apologized for previous actions, but your boss for sure ain't going to apologize to you.

[Mr.Money]

my big question is what happens the month after june?..


are they going to other sites now with radar ground detectors to piss more people off about the mass deaths' more than 250 announced.

[twitchyzero]

what would happen if you refused to let your kids go to these camps?

[Spoon]

Originally Posted by 6793026

Remember when residential schools also allowed US citizens to "adopt" these kids? Surely no one wants to adopt black kids. No one wants First Nations kids either. I wonder where the F these kids went. Most likely they disappeared somewhere. These operations were taken place cause money was involved.

YouTube

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

what would happen if you refused to let your kids go to these camps?

[donk.]

Originally Posted by inv4zn

Uh, yeah, "proper article". Your dissemination of 'fake news' aside, published articles vs a meme...

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Hey man, dank memes melt steel beams

[GLOW]

Originally Posted by donk.

dank memes melt steel beams

can someone explain this reference to me?

[Hondaracer]

9/11

[6793026]

Originally Posted by Spoon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGqWRyBCHhw

WOW, thank you for this. I really enjoyed learning about this. The propaganda is real and holy crap... they way they try to spin the ICWA 1977 act is just another example of how "white standards" are correct.

It's funny. If you live in surrey specials with 12 people you are living in unwell environment. 12 is NOTHING..... again, how the white mentality is the only standard was really a good hidden truth.

[mikemhg]

Canada is so strange when it comes to how we sternly protect the guilty party's details. I guess it's a blessing and a curse.

Remember the Central Park killer who killed the little girl, allegedly, Ibrahim Ali? The case happened 3 years ago, and still not a single detail about the guy accused. I've tried to follow it for years now, because it's certainly a strange one.

The mass shooter in Nova Scotia, the story now appears to be dead.

The guy who went on a stabbing spree in Lynn Valley, still not a single detail has really been released to the public about him.

With this story, I doubt we'll ever get any concrete information about the man and his motives.

It's such a bizarre aspect about Canada. In the US, by day 3 you know all about the accused, when the last time they farted, their favorite cereal, down to every social media post made.

Here in Canada, the story dies dead, and you never get a single piece of detail thereafter. I understand our privacy laws are different here, but damn, it would be nice to get some closure on some of these cases here.

[SumAznGuy]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Canada is so strange when it comes to how we sternly protect the guilty party's details. I guess it's a blessing and a curse.

Remember the Central Park killer who killed the little girl, allegedly, Ibrahim Ali? The case happened 3 years ago, and still not a single detail about the guy accused. I've tried to follow it for years now, because it's certainly a strange one.

The mass shooter in Nova Scotia, the story now appears to be dead.

The guy who went on a stabbing spree in Lynn Valley, still not a single detail has really been released to the public about him.

With this story, I doubt we'll ever get any concrete information about the man and his motives.

It's such a bizarre aspect about Canada. In the US, by day 3 you know all about the accused, when the last time they farted, their favorite cereal, down to every social media post made.

Here in Canada, the story dies dead, and you never get a single piece of detail thereafter. I understand our privacy laws are different here, but damn, it would be nice to get some closure on some of these cases here.

Central Park murderer's trial has been adjourned to 2021 so nothing new to update.

Nova Scotia killing appears to be dead in the news because the shooter is dead. Not really much to add to the story.

Lynn Valley accused stabbing suspect
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/north-vancouve...arge-1.5415239
Since they are still going to court, no one will talk about motive.

I do agree though sometimes the media's follow up is brutal but you also don't want all that info out there in the first few days because the info might not be correct or it could affect the trail of the accused.

[underscore]

The US system is terrible though. If the person is found innocent it doesn't matter because their life is already fucked. They get endlessly harassed and abused along with any family they have. Sure it'd be interesting to know the outcome sometimes, but the justice system isn't supposed to be entertainment. Likewise the court of public opinion shouldn't be what is determining guilt or punishment.

[Hondaracer]

I feel like the media here tries not to glorify the killer like the states does. But on the flip side it also seems like they just forget the stories and carry on.

The Newfoundland shooter I wouldn’t doubt there is external pressure to not report the finer details coming out as it makes the govt. and rcmp look terrible and they can no longer position themselves like guns were the issue when the guy is smuggling illegal firearms over the border etc.

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Canada is so strange when it comes to how we sternly protect the guilty party's details. I guess it's a blessing and a curse.

Remember the Central Park killer who killed the little girl, allegedly, Ibrahim Ali? The case happened 3 years ago, and still not a single detail about the guy accused. I've tried to follow it for years now, because it's certainly a strange one.

The mass shooter in Nova Scotia, the story now appears to be dead.

The guy who went on a stabbing spree in Lynn Valley, still not a single detail has really been released to the public about him.

With this story, I doubt we'll ever get any concrete information about the man and his motives.

It's such a bizarre aspect about Canada. In the US, by day 3 you know all about the accused, when the last time they farted, their favorite cereal, down to every social media post made.

Here in Canada, the story dies dead, and you never get a single piece of detail thereafter. I understand our privacy laws are different here, but damn, it would be nice to get some closure on some of these cases here.

Don't forget the guy that killed that Japanese student and left her body at Gabriola Mansion. I thought we'd find out details from the media. But every article I read just says there was NO motive and no indication on how she was killed. The guy was just convicted and sentenced and that's that. Bizarre there's absolutely no follow up.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ence-1.4889259

[mikemhg]

By the way, I'm a fuckhead. That post was meant for the Muslim family killing thread.

I'm getting mixed up with all these death posts in the OT here.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

Don't forget the guy that killed that Japanese student and left her body at Gabriola Mansion. I thought we'd find out details from the media. But every article I read just says there was NO motive and no indication on how she was killed. The guy was just convicted and sentenced and that's that. Bizarre there's absolutely no follow up.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ence-1.4889259

This is what I mean, very good point.

Same with the Ali one. He was only in the country for 4 months out of Syria, and he ended up killing a little girl in Central Park? It just seems so strange, I always wondered if this was just to grab a perp to close the case. The topic of refugees and immigration is such a hot topic nowadays, you would think we'd hear more about this guy's background after these 3 years, character stories, anything about the guy. Try to search him out, you won't find a single piece of info about him.

I guess why it bothers me is that is seems there's never closure to any of these cases, the Canadian media seems to close shop and move on, there is no decent investigative pieces, perhaps that's the case of Post Media gobbling up and centralizing everything nowadays, who knows.

When I was working in the justice system there was always rumors of serial killers running around in Vancouver, without them ever being solved, thus I'm always curious when these bizarre cases are just closed without any further details divulged.

Given the number of coverups by police in this city in the past, it only emboldens those conspiracy theories (Clifford Olson, Pickton brothers, etc).

I suppose there's more money to be made posting clickbait FB write ups about residents complaining about the long grass growing in Vancouver parks, etc.

[CivicBlues]

If it bleeds, it leads.

In depth reporting? Got everyone snoring.

[punkwax]

CivicBlues posts get rave reviews when he’s talking news.

[CivicBlues]

Whenever the media is a squawkin' they got me talkin' like Johnny Cochrane