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Whatever happened to the Kia Stinger, i recall it getting some attention when they first came out with it. I think it had the sportback tailgate copycat of Audi A5/A7, that looked a lot better than this Elantra N ..
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08-29-2023, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by radeonboy  The facelift corrects (some of) the ugliness. I think the Elantra is decent but its intended audience either went for the Veloster N, Civic Si, or Kona N  | That does look significantly better... altho I wish they kept the 2023 wheels instead of these Alfa Romeo wanna-be ones.
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08-29-2023, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r Whatever happened to the Kia Stinger, i recall it getting some attention when they first came out with it. I think it had the sportback tailgate copycat of Audi A5/A7, that looked a lot better than this Elantra N .. | Kia dealers fucked it over - they treated it like it was a GT3 RS, wouldn't give test drives without credit check, etc. I went to look at one and never even sat in one because the dealer experience was so shit.
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08-29-2023, 03:23 PM
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I thought demand for the Stinger cooled down before it reached its facelift - I had no problems checking one out in 2021 and they were readily available at all dealers. Ultimately I couldn't rationalize its price tag relative to a new A5 or slightly used S4 /S5. Eventually, I picked up my EV from the same dealership and the F&I experience was a shitfest.
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08-29-2023, 03:44 PM
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#455 | | Lomac owned my ass at least once
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I just watched the reviews, kona n is pretty interesting but it's more money, dct only, no sun roof no cool bucket seats like the Elantra and fwd only. Like a baby fwd golf r 
I went on the site and Veloster doesn't exist anymore and the later versions I actually don't like, it didn't look as cool as the original one. The front end looks too generic.
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08-29-2023, 04:13 PM
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#456 | | Lomac owned my ass at least once
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I think they got greedy, I was interested in the stinger when it first came out but it was like $60k after tax and I sure as hell ain't paying that much for a Korean car, same with the g90 I see them for $110k. If I was spending that much I won't buy Genesis. I still don't think they have the reliability or brand recognition and definitely not resell to ask for that much.
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08-29-2023, 05:18 PM
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#457 | | I don't get it
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Originally Posted by 68style Cuz the Elantra has trouble selling for $34,000 not even 1 year old (quoting a blue 2023 with 38,000kms that's been on FB marketplace for a month unsold at $34,000) and the Type-S will still be its purchased price a couple years later.
Oh, also the Elantra is incredibly ugly. | The Korean cars (Hyundai and Kia) change their styling so drastically from each generation. Just look at the existing Santa Fe and compare it to the upcoming model.
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08-29-2023, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jcmaz The Korean cars (Hyundai and Kia) change their styling so drastically from each generation. Just look at the existing Santa Fe and compare it to the upcoming model. | You know, I never understood why they did that. (IMO) a part of the reason why Honda and Toyota were so successful with their cars is because they build familiarity and loyalty with each successful generation. Same thing with VW (Golf) and Porsche (911). But with Hyundai / Kia, I feel like they are making the consumer take a gamble each time because each generation of the car, or their product offering in a certain segment has no continuity with the previous generation(s).
If I don't even know what I am getting into, how can I have enough confidence to put big money down for it?
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08-29-2023, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by roastpuff The whole package of that Cayman made me feel like such a good driver and instilled so much confidence in me. The car kept on going "Trust me bro, we got this corner, we can go faster" | Yeah so much this! I've had my s2k 15 years, and while I do ok at the track (typically high 1:40's at Laguna Seca), I still feel nervous at every turn: it is essentially an act of faith based on pure practiced muscle memory. It doesn't feel like I will make it but my mind overrides me that logically I know I will, plus margin on top.
But with each of those Porsches, by the time I'd had half an hour in each, I already felt so confident that I was feeling that same thing Roast is talking about : "bro we can go faster! trust me!" turn after turn. That planted, communicative feeling was so inspiring.
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08-29-2023, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r Whatever happened to the Kia Stinger, i recall it getting some attention when they first came out with it. I think it had the sportback tailgate copycat of Audi A5/A7, that looked a lot better than this Elantra N .. | I think the stinger was like a $51 - 64K out the door car. Nobody is spending that on a Kia. You buy the N's for driving experience, not so much look. There's nothing really anything in its price segment and I'm happy that it's there. Maybe a $30K Cayman would be better? But no warranty / probably costs more than $12 - 15K to run for 6 years.
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08-30-2023, 01:49 AM
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Are local dealers selling at msrp? wonder what the wait time is on one
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08-30-2023, 06:38 AM
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#462 | | Anal Mcgee
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Originally Posted by Gerbs I think the stinger was like a $51 - 64K out the door car. Nobody is spending that on a Kia. You buy the N's for driving experience, not so much look. There's nothing really anything in its price segment and I'm happy that it's there. Maybe a $30K Cayman would be better? But no warranty / probably costs more than $12 - 15K to run for 6 years. | Well they doubled down on that bullshit and made the gensis. Who’s gonna spend 100k+ on a Korean Bentley ?
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08-30-2023, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Badhobz Well they doubled down on that bullshit and made the gensis. Who’s gonna spend 100k+ on a Korean Bentley ? | Quote:
Originally Posted by 68style ^ Littledragon | Brings back memories of last year's Stock & Noob meet when he was sitting in the parking lot and you called out his car lol
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08-30-2023, 08:54 AM
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#465 | | Anal Mcgee
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kinda like the Yaris incident this year
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08-30-2023, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Matsuda Are local dealers selling at msrp? wonder what the wait time is on one | A friend was offered a GR Corolla at MSRP subject to trade so I can't see these being far off.
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08-30-2023, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by radeonboy A friend was offered a GR Corolla at MSRP subject to trade so I can't see these being far off. | Subject to trade is how they ding you though, they undervalue your trade by 5-10k so it's all a wash of having 10k surcharge.
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Yah me and my buddy both had deposits on the GR Corolla and we both refunded them at the same time... but only he got a call back the other day because he was listing a 2022 Subaru BRZ as a trade-in... that must have had them salivating something fierce lol
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08-30-2023, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoFire Subject to trade is how they ding you though, they undervalue your trade by 5-10k so it's all a wash of having 10k surcharge. | My friend never placed a deposit so he was surprised to be offered one this soon (he bought a Supra from them previously). It's half a step better than requiring a lowball trade with mandated accessories though.
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08-30-2023, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by radeonboy My friend never placed a deposit so he was surprised to be offered one this soon (he bought a Supra from them previously). It's half a step better than requiring a lowball trade with mandated accessories though. | Hmm if I had a J29 Supra with the I6, not sure I would want a GR Corolla...
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I was thinking of trading in the golf R for a type S but if they are going to tack on “mandatory” addons and packages then I’d rather just keep my car.
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Originally Posted by Matsuda I was thinking of trading in the golf R for a type S but if they are going to tack on “mandatory” addons and packages then I’d rather just keep my car. | If you are thinking of trading in your Golf R, you should sell it to Trollface for $10k instead!  | |
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Originally Posted by Matsuda Are local dealers selling at msrp? wonder what the wait time is on one | Was marked up $1 - 5K for a bit. The US has the best mark-up the VN went for $34 - 40K USD which is close to $50K CAD, we can't import it down south though.
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Originally Posted by Badhobz Well they doubled down on that bullshit and made the gensis. Who’s gonna spend 100k+ on a Korean Bentley ? | The KDM genesis + Stinger are 10x nicer, I'd buy it if it was the same interior as the leather you get over there. They're also priced 20-30% less in Korea which is cool. The Kia Carnival taxis are nicer than a Toyota Alphard too.
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Oh I was talking f about markup on type S
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I went to A&W this morning and saw this type S. in person it’s not “different” vs the standard integra. Quite stealth. The extra large wheel hunches aren’t that noticeable.
I’m wondering if this is trollface’s new ride since he frequents the seafair area.
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