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Old 11-20-2021, 07:16 PM   #201
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As an enthusiast, I can safely say that any new car that tries to leverage a nameplate that gives me warm and fuzzy feelings will be a terrible disappointment. Manufacturers are simply unable to make what we want anymore, largely because we are stuck living in the past.

To quote Andy Bernard, I wish there was a way to know when you were in the good ol days before you’ve actually left them.
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I don't know, not technically a "car" but the new Bronco was very well received by staying true to the original styling and improving upon it at the same time. Maybe a 2 door Integra in this age doesn't work but there's no way this was Acura's best effort.
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It’s all about timing I think too… like the Bronco kind of nailed their campaign, remains to be seen how successful it is or most of the sales are the very pedestrian version…

Toyota tried a similar vehicle with the FJ Cruiser before and despite current demand and high prices at the time it kind of flopped.
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I don't know, not technically a "car" but the new Bronco was very well received by staying true to the original styling and improving upon it at the same time. Maybe a 2 door Integra in this age doesn't work but there's no way this was Acura's best effort.
Best effort within their BUDGET.

In the Integra's heyday they were moving 50-80k units a year (https://carsalesbase.com/us-acura-integra/) at a time when R&D costs were way lower than they are now. The ILX sells barely 15k units/yr so best case with an Integra is 30k units and I'd say that's only going to be year 1.

Between massive increases in R&D costs and lower sales volume I don't think there's really that much they could have done especially as the MDX, TLX, and refreshed RDX were likely eating up a lot more budget and resources during that same time. Those cars are the profit centres so they get the bulk of the money.

I bet the FRS/86/BRZ are money losers for Toyota/Subaru with their 10-20k units a year but Toyota treats it as a branding exercise (just like with the Supra). They need to be considered cool and fun. Other than the NSX I don't think Honda really gets into building money losers.
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https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...gl9LWgUb0fmqZw

Why the Integra had to be a 5 door according to Jon Ikeda.
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played it too safe and it backfired

what's bizzare is this is the only current acura designed back in japan

pretty sure the bean counters there didn't say 'this makes sense' when they built a turbo mid-engine roadster few years ago for kei class
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Where it's design doesn't mean a whole lot to me. The only part that needed to be designed was the rear and it looks like a 11 year old Genesis Coupe. The side is just Civic and the front is resized corp face.

The only way this would be interesting was if they managed to do a SH-AWD Type R. But I believe it was said that the platform doesn't allow for AWD, and I don't believe they have a manual SH-AWD drivetrain either. Then again a AWD R would piss off the purists.
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GUYS!

Someone is selling a Prototype Integra with a V6 AND SH-AWD here.

Spoiler!
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GUYS!

Someone is selling a Prototype Integra with a V6 AND SH-AWD here.

Spoiler!
If there was ever a 2nd gen ZDX, it would probably have a fighting chance against the Mercedes, BMW, and Audi Coupe SUVs

EDIT: I could picture it looking pretty decent with the current Acura design language
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Yea, Infiniti brought out the QX55 and it's not doing too well. It seems only the Germans are successful with Coupe-SUVs
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Are rdx and even MDX selling? I never see any new ones around. I think Acura might have priced their cars a bit too high lately isn't the MDX type s like $80000?
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Are rdx and even MDX selling? I never see any new ones around. I think Acura might have priced their cars a bit too high lately isn't the MDX type s like $80000?
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2021-u...sales-figures/

Selling pretty well - the MDX is neck and neck with the X5 and GLE in the US and 4th place in Canada.

RDX is selling great - best year ever in Canada (https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/acura-rdx-sales-figures/)
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Why the Integra had to be a 5 door according to Jon Ikeda.
This was a good read. I wonder how close the Civic Type R and Integra Type S will be performance wise.
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Why the Integra had to be a 5 door according to Jon Ikeda.
The civic coupe si in terms of space is much different than a Integra. The civic has a trunk. The integra even tho has 2 door because of the hatch and folding seat had that versatility. My old gen 3 integra with the seats folded down had tons of space. I can fit camping stuff, track wheels with all the tools in the back.

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This was a good read. I wonder how close the Civic Type R and Integra Type S will be performance wise.
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https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ivic-si-drive/
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/30/...-drive-review/
https://jalopnik.com/the-2022-honda-...ery-1848132697

Reviews for the Si are coming out today - pretty positive stuff. I would expect the Integra be mostly a dressed up, slightly more practical version of the Si. Maybe it gets the adaptive dampers back and it gets 50lbs more sound insulation? It's a bit slower than I had hoped but that's not surprising.

I wonder if there'll be an automatic version of the Integra - would it be a CVT (ugh) or a DCT? Honda has a DCT lying around but it's never been mated to the 1.5T.
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https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ivic-si-drive/
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/30/...-drive-review/
https://jalopnik.com/the-2022-honda-...ery-1848132697

Reviews for the Si are coming out today - pretty positive stuff. I would expect the Integra be mostly a dressed up, slightly more practical version of the Si. Maybe it gets the adaptive dampers back and it gets 50lbs more sound insulation? It's a bit slower than I had hoped but that's not surprising.

I wonder if there'll be an automatic version of the Integra - would it be a CVT (ugh) or a DCT? Honda has a DCT lying around but it's never been mated to the 1.5T.
American customers are going to get a huge kick in the nuts because the Canadian spec has the following features standard, and with current exchange rates, it's cheaper than the American spec.

Foglights
Parking sensors
Turn signal indicators on mirrors
FULL digital cluster
Shift lights
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https://todayuknews.com/automobile/2...-equipped/amp/
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Well is it cuz it's made by Canadians for Canadians as Honda says?
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Canadian spec vs US spec cars always differ. It's no real surprise here.

I don't recall a DCT for the 1.5 but they do make it for their bikes so they COULD make a DCT but making a transmission just for the Integra seems unlikely. That said they COULD take the 8-speed from the ILX, that was pretty good.
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Both my focus ST and RS were the same way. We had less choices for option packages, BUT we get more as standard and overall end up paying less. For the RS we even got winter wheels and tires included which was another added cost in the US
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yep lot of times the Canadian models are more loaded/desirable yet rarer and/or cheaper
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https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/he...acura-integra/

First look at the interior of the Integra.

Not surprised that it's a hard take on the current gen Civic
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Isn't that shift knob from like 05 TLS or tax?
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^Ya, look likes the 8th gen Si as well. Just swap to a heavier Skunk2 one lol
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Let's be honest, if you're surprised that it looks like a Civic then like the exterior your expectations are set wrong.

It's based on a civic, it's just a luxurious Civic like the CSX was.
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