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SkinnyPupp 03-11-2022 06:58 PM

The onslaught will never end; they are the Zerg


For all the losses we've been watching Russia take, it's only been about 10% of the forces they sent in. It's inevitable that they'll overwhelm and take the country. At an insanely high cost of course - literally ruining their own country - but it will happen without NATO stepping in, or someone overthrowing the villain (it's surreal to use that term literally). And then they have to try to occupy which will lead to even more casualties

westopher 03-11-2022 06:59 PM

Kid Carson has always been a piece of shit where ever he goes. He’s gone off the deep end now to the walking stereotype of a 40 year old white trash man with a grade 10 education that still managed to make a bit of money.

SkinnyPupp 03-11-2022 07:00 PM

I knew that name sounded familar, and he was one of the hosts of Z95.3 EleGiggle

And of course he's on the long list of grifter podcasters

hud 91gt 03-11-2022 07:51 PM

He’s been back on Z for the last year. His contract was coming to an end, and I’m assuming wasn’t offered what he wanted. I was listening when he made his big anti vaccine, conspiracy theory ending before he got canned. I was like “oh here it comes” haha. He’s always wanted fame and attention which is what I thought it was all about. But now I think he’s just crazy.

Acura604 03-12-2022 01:24 PM

Inching closer to WW3

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news...-22/index.html

Russia issues warning to US that it would fire on weapon shipments to Ukraine, raising the risk of direct confrontation between Moscow and a NATO country.

pastarocket 03-12-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Acura604 (Post 9057709)
Inching closer to WW3

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news...-22/index.html

Russia issues warning to US that it would fire on weapon shipments to Ukraine, raising the risk of direct confrontation between Moscow and a NATO country.

Oh boy. Shit got even more real. :facepalm:

SkinnyPupp 03-12-2022 03:04 PM

Russia isn't long for this world if WW3 ends up happening. I can see it ending pretty swiftly, and the country of "Russia" no longer exists after. Instead it would probably be divided into an EU region, and a China region. Or maybe a few more, going to Middle Eastern countries, Korea, Japan, etc.

Crazy crazy crazy to think of how badly Putin is fucking his people over. All to get rid of a Jewish Nazi president. :fulloffuck:

whitev70r 03-12-2022 03:39 PM

Someone from the inside has got to find a way to take him out.

68style 03-12-2022 03:42 PM

Honestly thought there was absolutely 0 chance of their being another world war, especially in my lifetime... but here we are on the brink of one.

SkinnyPupp 03-12-2022 03:59 PM

So now Iran is launching missiles at the US embassy in Iraq WutFace


westopher 03-12-2022 04:00 PM

This is only going to end with a dead Putin. How that happens is up in the air. Otherwise the goalposts will just keep moving as what is “an attack” on Russia, the deeper he ends up in the shit. Unless the world just leaves Ukraine to die essentially, and Russia ends up taking over, which
A) would be very unfortunate that we left them in that situation
B) is unlikely that Ukraine would ever stop fighting

That said, I sure as shit don’t want to be drafted into world war 3 and go die.

whitev70r 03-12-2022 04:12 PM

From CBC, here is Putin's demands to end of war. I think it's time to agree. Ukraine can join NATO in 50 years when Putin dies or is replaced as President.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia...-war-1.6382718

Putin lays out terms for ending war
French and German leaders spoke Saturday with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a failed attempt to reach a cease-fire.

According to the Kremlin, Putin laid out terms for ending the war. For ending hostilities, Moscow has demanded that:

* Ukraine drop its bid to join NATO and adopt a neutral status.
* Acknowledge the Russian sovereignty over Crimea, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014.
* Recognize the independence of separatist regions in the country's east.
* Agree to demilitarize.

Manic! 03-12-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9057724)
* Agree to demilitarize.

So the next time he invades it would be a lot easier? That's not going to happen.

JDMDreams 03-12-2022 04:43 PM

Wait what why did Iran attack Iraq? Ww3? :pokerface:

Teriyaki 03-12-2022 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9057726)
So the next time he invades it would be a lot easier? That's not going to happen.

Yea, just see what happened last time they gave up their weapons. FeelsBadMan

whitev70r 03-12-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9057726)
So the next time he invades it would be a lot easier? That's not going to happen.

What is the alternative? If the war continues ... effectively, Ukraine will demilitarize by force and lose a lot more.

I mean hell, right now, it's NATO providing military equipment and artillery to Ukraine as it is.

Manic! 03-12-2022 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9057730)
What is the alternative? If the war continues ... effectively, Ukraine will demilitarize by force and lose a lot more.

I mean hell, right now, it's NATO providing military equipment and artillery to Ukraine as it is.

How are you going to have a country without a military? Putin will be able to take more land any time he chooses.

320icar 03-12-2022 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9057722)

That said, I sure as shit don’t want to be drafted into world war 3 and go die.

We wouldn’t be front line. You’d work cantine and I’d be general supply/warehouse. We’d be wasted anywhere near the front.

Rallydrv 03-12-2022 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9057728)
Wait what why did Iran attack Iraq? Ww3? :pokerface:

They attacked American site in Iraq,

America seized two Iran fuel tankers. Kinda stupid when u r close to reaching a nuke deal, while u r hurting about gas prices if u ask me.

inv4zn 03-12-2022 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9057724)
From CBC, here is Putin's demands to end of war. I think it's time to agree. Ukraine can join NATO in 50 years when Putin dies or is replaced as President.

According to the Kremlin, Putin laid out terms for ending the war. For ending hostilities, Moscow has demanded that:

* Ukraine drop its bid to join NATO and adopt a neutral status.
* Acknowledge the Russian sovereignty over Crimea, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014.
* Recognize the independence of separatist regions in the country's east.
* Agree to demilitarize.

Why the hell would Ukraine agree? Russia has shown over and over their word doesn't mean shit.

Imagine your neighbour took over your backyard a year ago, and now he's in your house stealing your shit. Police won't do anything other than giving you a baseball bat to fight him with, but the dude is 10x your size. After putting up a fight, he tells you he'll leave you alone if you give up your kitchen, and agree to remove all the locks from your doors. But he promises to leave you alone now.

Like, would you agree?

Gumby 03-12-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 9057746)
Why the hell would Ukraine agree? Russia has shown over and over their word doesn't mean shit.

Imagine your neighbour took over your backyard a year ago, and now he's in your house stealing your shit. Police won't do anything other than giving you a baseball bat to fight him with, but the dude is 10x your size. After putting up a fight, he tells you he'll leave you alone if you give up your kitchen, and agree to remove all the locks from your doors. But he promises to leave you alone now.

Like, would you agree?

It’s really sad, but Ukraine is screwed… they can’t agree to those terms, but they can’t not agree either… Putin is going to do whatever it takes to get what he wants.

Traum 03-12-2022 09:57 PM

At a practical level, the first 3 of Russia's demands are already a done deal, or came very close to becoming a done deal.

Before the actual war broke out, news reports were indicating that Zelensky was ready to drop Ukraine's NATO application as an incentive to resolve the war threat diplomatically.

Crimea is already under Russian control.

Donbas and Luhansk were already very pro-Russia, and with the way things are now, as long as Russia doesn't fall apart, it would be very difficult for these two regions to willingly return to become part of Ukraine.

So the sticking point is really the final demand -- demilitarize. Ukraine already got burned once when they gave up their nukes. But at least last time there was UK, US, and France signing the deal. This time they'd literally need to sign a deal with the Devil himself, and at gunpoint no less.

How can you agree to "peace terms" like that? But at the same time, how can you not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by inv4zn (Post 9057746)
Why the hell would Ukraine agree? Russia has shown over and over their word doesn't mean shit.

Imagine your neighbour took over your backyard a year ago, and now he's in your house stealing your shit. Police won't do anything other than giving you a baseball bat to fight him with, but the dude is 10x your size. After putting up a fight, he tells you he'll leave you alone if you give up your kitchen, and agree to remove all the locks from your doors. But he promises to leave you alone now.

Like, would you agree?


inv4zn 03-12-2022 10:04 PM

They've literally said they're not giving up, and the entire country has shown that. Groups of citizens standing in front of military vehicles telling them to fuck off, is pretty powerful.

Ukraine, and Zelensky, are doing everything right at this moment, given their fucked up circumstances. There is news that Putin expected to roll through Ukraine in 5 days, and is livid that it wasn't a walk in the park. There are reports that he put FSB honchos under house arrest, blaming them for his failures. Kinda what happens when you surround yourself with yes-men.

Mr.Money 03-13-2022 01:22 AM

surprised russia has piss poor training.


saw a video where they were ducking and running right middle of a highway as sitting ducks and running for cover not to the sides but still pushing ahead.... run & duck..


snipers or 240 machine gunners are gonna have a hayday on kills... that's a massive kill zone in warfare.

Manic! 03-13-2022 10:38 AM

Fucker Carlson has to be a Russian asset.

https://www.businessinsider.com/krem...rce=reddit.com


Quote:

Leaked Kremlin war memo instructs Russian state media to feature Fox News host Tucker Carlson 'as much as possible,' says Mother Jones report


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