The countries that doesn't have interests elsewhere and only has Russia as an opponent really should be going all in on this. Whatever draw down of Russian capability means less chance of having to get involved themselves.

Think Sweden, Norway, Spain, Italy, Greece where Russia is realistically their biggest and likely only opponent.

US has the Pacific to keep themselves busy, UK and France has projection considerations as well.

Us as in US. It's a very immature mindset and a very good descriptor of how Trump does things. There's not "we all win" type scenario in his head, you have to lose something therefore it means he wins.

It's the reason why he's a terrible businessman. The west is built on a we all win together kind of mindset and he's breaking that. It's also a paradigm that's advertised a lot in the workspace. Sharing knowledge and specialties increases team productivity. Holding on to your domain knowledge and not letting other's on means you become a single point of failure when shit hits the fan and the team won't be able to deliver. Of course you need a good leader to preach that kind of mindset and behaviour, and Trump is the leader, and a pretty terrible one.

Another nothing burger, just a bunch of guys flying around to support. Two meetings just to agree on a threesome? Zelensky says there will be election after the war is over, just as I called it, just a way to remove him and throw someone else in.

i would have thought north korea woudl have tanked, russia as well esp how big it is yet I guess "tanking" can be many diff forms.

So far, in all the press release & short clips, they have talked about 'iron clad' security guarantees (similar to article 5 of NATO) but I haven't anything heard about ceding territories from the Ukraine, EU, US side. Does that mean Zlensky has moved from that demand.

With the way modern society works, it seems to me that in authoritarian govs, dissent mostly gets clipped at its buds because authorities just have so many ways to constantly monitor people and keep everyone in line.

And then should the dissatisfaction actually manage to get big, the level of force available to the 2 sides -- authorities and protesters -- are so disproportionate that protesters practically have no chance to succeed.

The only exception to this seems to be Mexican / Latin American / South American drug cartels where they can manage to have similar levels of firepower as the authorities. But they aren't really interested in overthrowing the gov.

So at best, these countries will just die a very slow death. Their economies continue to weaken and the fundamentals are all screwed up, but then the gov does stuff to prop things up here and there to keep the house of cards from collasping.

I think it's worth noting that corruption is prevalent in these cultures and societies in all shapes or forms. Despite any efforts or crackdowns, it will take a long time for any kind of material change to see or* determine whether there is a positive improvement or if things regress in these parts of the world.

Everyone has a price.

I also think it's a big distraction regarding Trump's, usas internal issues. Ice, Epstein, Diddy, tariffs. Like does it really matter who owns a few thousand km of dirt on the other side of the world. How is your life affected because of this. Are you gonna be magically hobz rich when they cease fire? Are you finally gonna get a Ukrainian women now? How about some Gaza ones.

I’m married to a Ukrainian. I’d kinda like to see less people getting killed in wars all over the world. It makes things better.
But I do agree with you, trump isn’t doing this because he’s kind. He’s doing it for ego and self preservation.

He just wants that noble peace prize

he just wants to take credit for something that biden couldn't do, even if it means ukraine has to concede territory.

100% doing it for ego.

Not self preservation because he's Teflon Don.

You know what Trump, Zelenskyy, Macron, and Starmer have in common? They are all at the negotiating table.

You know who is missing? Our PM, Carney.

The US gov't invited UK, France, Germany, Italy, Finland, NATO, and EU. Carney wasn't even invited because Canada isn't even wanted, despite being a top contributor to aid to Ukraine. What does that say about Canada's reputation about peacekeeping?

Carney is in your dreams and thoughts 24/7, this “gotcha” is a real stretch for anyone and a stupid take for super obvious reasons. Put down the pipe.

So what was the "super obvious" reason that Canada was left out of the summit in Washington?

snubbed by that Trumpet Muppet of course. Clowny wouldnt make a deal, so now he's not invited to the cool kids table anymore. classic high school lunchroom drama 101.

What's it going to be, guys? Van Tech beating? Britannia ass kicking, or Tupper-style gangland stabbing?

Carney not being invited says more about the host than it does about Carney, since by your own words Canada is a top contributor.

Maybe the liberal government should have acted in good faith and contributed to the minimum 2% NATO target in the past decade plus...

dont defend those crazy american talking points. Our defence spending is a non-issue because nobody will ever invade us (other than the guy who's telling us to spend more on defence). There is no threat to the US from Canada, and that flow of illegals and drugs is less than 2%

all non issues. What is an issue is that orange retard crashing global markets and ruining economies. Ours included. Who cares if he snubs us at this Ukraine thing, its not he's going to reach Putin to stop this war.

Cuz we don’t share a border with Ukraine and are nowhere near them?

Japan donated just as much as Canada did and weren’t invited too. Losers!!

Imagine how constructive you could be if you spent time doing things other than thinking of how to bash Carney next?

You’re taking about wanting respect from a childfucker who didn’t even invite Ukraine to a meeting about Ukraine? What’s your priorities here?

^I'm surprised you even need to explain such an obvious nuance.

Maybe we should get PP out from Alberta and see what he has to say.

Why are you guys so hard on VRYALT3R3D? :D

Gosh it was such a relief in the past several months when we didn't have to hear his annoying voice on the news.

Now his constantly condescending tone and voice are gonna be back on the airwaves again... FailFish

Sorry bro, but both the Biden and Trump administration strongly criticized Canada relentlessly for not meeting the 2% obligation. As a result, Canada is viewed as a 'free-rider'. Its not a talking point when it's factual.