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JDMDreams 08-14-2025 03:26 PM

And also like since the beginning of the war, all the analyst were like there's no way they can win. So there's no point of dragging this on, more people dying. Europe ain't a charity either, if they were so worried about it they would have thrown money at it. Obviously USA doesn't have nor want to throw anymore money at it.

Badhobz 08-14-2025 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9189452)
This is so stupid... imagine Jason00S2000 and Manic! were having a dispute, then badhobz comes in to tell Jason00S2000 what to do to resolve the conflict without consulting Manic!

badhobz: do as I say, or I will have the ports restrict the flow of porn!

What the fuck!!! I don’t wanna be that orange idiot even in your scenario…..

o wait he porked a lot of blondes…. He says insane shit…. He loves gaudy ass gold…. Fuck he’s the white guy version of me !!!! Argh I hate myself :rukidding:

JDMDreams 08-14-2025 03:48 PM

He also grabs them by the pussy :notbad:

Jason00S2000 08-14-2025 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9189465)
lol now he says it’s easy to get rich as a crackhead :lol :lol :lol

Buddy your brain is broke

Money isn't real.

Cash is just a physical manifestation of human faith.

Money isn't something you can measure outside of human belief systems. You can measure money's effect on things, but money itself, is just faith.

Being "rich" as a crackhead is something so far out of your comprehension. Have you ever walked with a crackhead artist like Ken Foster and watched him live the dream with $100 you just gave him for 2 paintings and watched him as the king of the hood?

A crackhead in Canada is so rich beyond the comprehension of a western "settler" 100 years ago. A crackhead has access to everything they need in life and more, it is just contained in such a gulag to eliminate them that it is similar to a rat trap. Oh, says the rat, look, a delicious piece of cheese, just sitting there, in the open, for me! Wow this is easy, said the rat.

Clearly you'll just dismiss me as a narcissistic maniac becuase I interpret the system we're all living in differently than you. But, I can say from someone who went through being homeless as a teenager, to someone making 10-20k a month in his 20's and most of his 30's, to broke after quitting porn, to now soon going to be making prolly 10k+ a month again in the next 6-12 months...

Money isn't real.
Value is produced by the way you live your life.
You either produce value in the Kingdom of God, or value in the Kingdom of Man.

If you had spent time with any crackheads, you'd immediately know how spiritually bereft those people are, and, generally, that's why everything else in a crackhead's life is fucked.

68style 08-14-2025 05:10 PM

He just thinks he’s living a dream because the opioids have that effect on his brain chemistry numb nuts. He didn’t have some fuckin spiritual awakening or reach a new level of consciousness, he’s just high as a fugg and living in a distorted reality.

I call you a narcissist because you keep thinking you know how absolutely everything works, it’s all so simple yet you can’t figure it out, how frustrating… and nothing is ever your fault, it’s all the system man! THE SYSTEM. Much easier to blame and armchair criticize a faceless mechanism than look in a mirror I guess.

Badhobz 08-14-2025 05:14 PM

*yells in dragon ball z voice *

Jewish sppppaaaaaaaacccceeeeeee LLLLLAAAAAAAZZZZEEERRRRRR !!!!!!!! Attttttaaaccccckkkkkkkkk!!!!!!

mikemhg 08-14-2025 06:27 PM

I think Jason is a prime candidate to come to one of these RS Meets, he's pretty much becoming the most anticipated guest.

I still can't tell if he's a real person, AI, some kind of psyop, or just trolling hard as fuck for fun.

It's like him and VLAD are the same person, but playing different online personas.

westopher 08-14-2025 06:42 PM

Nah I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. As much as some of Jason’s opinions are bullshit, I think he’d probably be an interesting guy and probably decent beyond the culture war stuff.
V3tard is just a clown that has absolutely nothing to add to any conversation about anything. Would just blend into the background and be completely irrelevant while everyone would just tune them out.

Dbone 08-14-2025 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9189447)
An emerging problem is -- as the war drags on and wears on every aspect in life, opinions among Ukrainians (still living in Ukraine) are shifting towards a settlement with Russia to the point where there almost 70% of Ukrainians feel this way. Granted, wanting to have a negotiated end to the war is not the same as willing to settle for giving up land, but both sides are having difficulties in keeping the war going, and the advantage Putin has is, as a dictator, he doesn't need to give a rat's a$$ about what his people thinks. Ukraine doesn't really have the luxury of that.

Sure. That's natural. Maybe they have to give something up, but I think they won't agree if it compromises them defensively, or if it means giving up any medium sized city or larger and this is exactly what Russia demands.

So as usual, I hope I'm wrong, but this isn't ending Friday.

Badhobz 08-14-2025 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9189510)
Nah I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. As much as some of Jason’s opinions are bullshit, I think he’d probably be an interesting guy and probably decent beyond the culture war stuff.
V3tard is just a clown that has absolutely nothing to add to any conversation about anything. Would just blend into the background and be completely irrelevant while everyone would just tune them out.

That’s how you know she’s a woman. I fucking don’t hear half the shit these cunts say nowadays.

JDMDreams 08-15-2025 10:06 AM

Only 11c in Anchorage right now, wonder what's gonna happen Trump not saying thank you? Who's gonna try to kill who. Meeting is at 11:30

Jason00S2000 08-15-2025 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9189488)
living in a distorted reality.

What do you think we're all living in?

Probably the least distorted reality would be living like an uncontacted tribe in the Amazon or on Sentinal Island.

https://i.ibb.co/k21R6kzB/uncontacted-tribe.jpg

Us being there smartphone and computer-using fat old men we are, everything we see and experience about the world is seen through a glowing rectangle. Then, even when we travel around and visit places, our reality is seen through the lens of class, because most of us are insulated from the poor and middle class experiences of life. How many RS'ers are busting their asses HARD to survive in 2025? Probably none of us.

GS8 08-15-2025 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9189503)
I think Jason is a prime candidate to come to one of these RS Meets, he's pretty much becoming the most anticipated guest.

I still can't tell if he's a real person, AI, some kind of psyop, or just trolling hard as fuck for fun.

It's like him and VLAD are the same person, but playing different online personas.

Maybe 68 and Jason are the same person :suspicious:


bcrdukes 08-15-2025 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9189683)
Maybe 68 and Jason are the same person :suspicious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk

68style
Great68
Jason00S2000

All the same person? Yes. Believable. :lawl:

unit 08-16-2025 09:33 AM

white guys, 40s, car years in usernames...

sus

6793026 08-18-2025 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9189585)
Only 11c in Anchorage right now, wonder what's gonna happen Trump not saying thank you? Who's gonna try to kill who. Meeting is at 11:30

I can't wait to see what happens.

No next meeting. No details. No agreements. Just said "better understanding". Dude got played.

Now today comes along, Zelenskyy has a meeting to discuss what was talked about along with tons of company from europe (eg/ German Chancellor Friedrich Merz). Now Trump has an audience, has to deliver something.. let's see what can be done...

whitev70r 08-18-2025 07:20 AM

I don't know, we got a couple of options, pick your poison:
1. Stay the course, try deeper sanctions, supply Ukraine with billions more of weapons, and see thousands of soldiers die, go for another year or two, hope you outlast Russia.
2. Negotiate ... get long-term security deal, Ukraine give up some land, both countries move on and both lose (both win, depending on how you look at it).

Cuz I don't see Russia putting their tail between their legs and saying, 'OK, you win, we stop, here is all the areas we took back, and we won't attack you ever again, feel free to join NATO'.

I mean, tell me a 3rd option?

Badhobz 08-18-2025 07:29 AM

The only real solution is military intervention. Although im sure nobody is willing to go this far to save Ukraine.

Eventually Ukraine is gonna get bled out by the WAY bigger Russian population and manpower. One way or the other, that idiot is gonna win. Its just how many more lives he'll destroy before he does.

The west is too weak and internally divided to put troops on the ground. They dont have the stomach for war and im sure the EU military kids will lose their minds if they are sent to that battlefront. Instead of watching tiktok videos, they need to face an onslaught of drones and shells. They'll most likely livestream their own death.

If this was the 60's or 70's nukes would have been thrown already.

JDMDreams 08-18-2025 09:21 AM

There will be no military intervention. It's ww3 if they do and no one is willing or has $ to foot the bill for a foreign country. Not very popular when everyone is literally pissed with illegal migrants. No one has Jew money to throw around. And this is gonna cost way more than Gaza.

Cost = return doesn't make sense, Ukraine will never recover from this financially, so they won't be able to pay back shit. And no one wants to hold the bag for this.

This is literally like offering free drugs to the hobos on Hastings it's a never ending black hole. You can't keep funding this.

6793026 08-18-2025 11:40 AM

No one will send troops over and Trump can't go bombing so it'll just stay motionless for another few years.

Ukraine can only ask for donations for so long, so I wonder how many more billions they will actually get - from cheap ass countries like us. Even Germany will run out of moeny to give for another 3 years?

Is it actualyl a war, are they realyl bombing? Or at they just buying 200k of drones and sending bombs and call it a day. Hoenstly, I don't know and we never see any of these news anymore on what's going on.

JDMDreams 08-18-2025 11:42 AM

Been awfully quiet, peace in Iran, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, everyone is holding hands and eating donairs

EvoFire 08-18-2025 11:52 AM

No western country has the appetite for boots on the ground. I think the only countries that would do it are Poland, Slovakia, Lithuania, and Estonia. The reason they would do it is because they are next in line, but they also have to contend with the fact that Belarus, Kaliningrad, and the Russian border is right there and they have to be careful with how much they draw down.

There's no limit to Europe's desire to keep sending equipment, I don't think anyone is under any kind of pretense that Ukraine will be paying back anything. Russia barely paid back the US for the lend lease agreement for WW2, Germany wasn't required to pay back anything for losing, Ukraine will be given a pass. Russia will fight with sticks and stones if they have to so expect this to continue to get dragged out. Ukraine will pay back the west with it's expertise with drone warfare and be a major manufacturing hub for it.

As much as we all think Trump is in bed with Putin and sucking his dick, Putin is making Trump look bad and I wouldn't be surprised if Trump does something drastic and out of left field. His whole term so far has been drastic and out of left field.

EvoFire 08-18-2025 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9189889)
Been awfully quiet, peace in Iran, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, everyone is holding hands and eating donairs

The Arabs don't all get along. No one will say it, but Hamas FAFO by poking the bear.

Iran can barely keep itself running with fears of unrest.

Lebanon overall to me seems pretty moderate, it's the Houthis that were really causing trouble but the gov't couldn't really be bothered to deal with them. Now that Israel crushed the Houthis I feel like the Lebanon gov't probably wants to thank them but can't.

Syria still trying to put itself back together.

Same with Iraq.

Let's be real for a sec, the majority of Arabs aren't extremists. They just want to live on with their lives like us. Do a day's work, go to their evening prayers, go home, eat a peaceful dinner with the fam, go to sleep.

supafamous 08-18-2025 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9189893)
There's no limit to Europe's desire to keep sending equipment, I don't think anyone is under any kind of pretense that Ukraine will be paying back anything. Russia barely paid back the US for the lend lease agreement for WW2, Germany wasn't required to pay back anything for losing, Ukraine will be given a pass. Russia will fight with sticks and stones if they have to so expect this to continue to get dragged out. Ukraine will pay back the west with it's expertise with drone warfare and be a major manufacturing hub for it.

It's basically a proxy war - the EU (and it's supposed to be the US) want to ensure that Russia doesn't have outsize influence in the world but they can't confront Russia directly so Ukraine is how they bleed Russia to death.

I've been very surprised that Russia's economy hasn't tanked but the WSJ has been looking into it - basically the war machine is keeping the economy afloat but there are limits to this. The EU (and the US) really can bleed Russia dry - it's just a matter of how bad Ukraine fares in the process.

WSJ report:

JDMDreams 08-18-2025 01:12 PM

I think it's more of a proxy for us to keep Europe poor, euro can't compete and replace USD, have reasons against Russia, China, India to keep them behind us


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