This is fuckn disgusting. Inviting children to a drag queen event at Coquitlam libr

[bcrdukes]

[The7even]

Originally Posted by 68style

I remember the old 7even being a workout dude with tough but at least logical views, not a condescending prick spouting generalizations.

Not the same guy, similar user name. I was never known for being a workout dude. Don't want you to think less of someone because of me.

That being said, my views are v logical. What isn't logical is thinking or believing that there are more than two genders.

There is no xim / xer or they / them. There is only him and her and mental disorders.

Just because you fell for the bullshit disguised as empathy doesn't mean I will. Nor does not falling for that make me some evil intolerant villain that those who disagree would have you believe.

[68style]

See you don't know a single thing about me, but you went off on a little analysis of me and my belief system anyway.

Any idiot can do that, a logical person doesn't.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by 68style

I remember the old 7even being a workout dude with tough but at least logical views, not a condescending prick spouting generalizations.

2016 melted brains (edit I see now that it's not the same person, but the point stands)

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by The7even

What you actually didn't know is that I'm transgender my self, and I use the pronouns 'master / commander' Monday through Friday and on the weekends I go by they / them. I am fluid after all. If you don't believe me it's because you're being bigoted and refuse to accept me for who I am.
That's what us trans people deal with on a daily basis though, not that you'd understand.

Hey baby I can call you master / commander any day of the week you want. i'm into leather, latex and water sports. P.M. me.

[underscore]

No scat play? Casual.

[SkinnyPupp]

This is MY Master & Commander

[Badhobz]

Leave Britney alone !!!!

[donk.]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Get back in here you pleb, we need to help grow this dumpster fire

[donk.]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Leave Britney alone !!!!

Spoiler!

[Traum]

OK, I've got a pure logical question here for you. Stay with me.

I am straight up quoting exactly what you wrote earlier, OK?

Originally Posted by The7even

There is no xim / xer or they / them. There is only him and her and mental disorders.

And then you also wrote earlier:

Originally Posted by The7even

What you actually didn't know is that I'm transgender my self, and I use the pronouns 'master / commander' Monday through Friday and on the weekends I go by they / them. I am fluid after all. If you don't believe me it's because you're being bigoted and refuse to accept me for who I am.

That's what us trans people deal with on a daily basis though, not that you'd understand.

Originally Posted by The7even

Please don't call me "guy" again, bigot. I told you what my pronouns are.

Following pure logic, the only possible conclusion that I can draw here is -- you're saying you have mental disorder?

Another possibility is -- your claim that you're transgender is actually a false claim. And if that's the case, then there is really no point for any of us to continue with this discussion with you because you are engaging it in bad faith.

[Badhobz]

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ugly britneys

[Hehe]

IMHO, this whole BTQ (not LG) thing is nothing more than some men trying to demonstrate patriarchy in a world where they couldn't otherwise gain that "15min of fame" they seek.

It's always a biological man trying to exercise his right on women. The controversy is never a trans-man (biological woman) trying to use men's changeroom. It's never a trans-man (again, biological woman) trying to compete in men's sport, and in the case of queer in a library, I do not think for a fucking second that they are seeking acceptance from other men. When was the last time any dudes here has ever been bothered by how other dudes wear?

You could don a banana peel all over, and I wouldn't give a monkey fuck.

What they are seeking is the acceptance of women and children; that it is ok for men to take what's rightfully theirs. There's no women's champion for as long as it's ok for men to claim to be women and compete in those categories.

I'm perfectly fine for them to choose to wear whatever the fuck they please. I'm also perfectly fine for anyone to identify whatever pronounce they so desire. It's their decision, and it's their right.

But I'm not ok with these people to go out there and claim that if you don't accept the queer culture, don't let trans hang dicks in women changeroom, and don't let trans compete in women sports and that is homophobic or discrimination.

For fuck sake, the reason we created "women" categories for sports is that women can have a space to compete themselves instead of against physically stronger males. That's not discrimination. It's a scientific fact that men are physically stronger in general. The best women cannot outdo their male counterparts when it comes to physical.

For any men supporting the idea that trans should be allowed to compete in women sport, congrats. You just pushed the women's right back 100yrs. Because these people... they are not seeking our (men) acceptance. They are trying to force their male superiority (however screwed) onto a group of people who were more vulnerable in the first place.

And for any libs/lefties on this thread, if you are looking to counter my arguments, I will make it simple for you, find me a case where the controversy was that a biological woman were trying to force the acceptance in the field of men. It doesn't even need to be trans. And I will rest my case.

The truth is... if a woman is so good at something that she can outperform her male counterparts, men usually just take it. GM has a female CEO and I don't see any men also in GM's C-suit give a flying fuck about it.

It's always some man trying to outperform their female counterparts. If that's not patriarchy, I don't know what is.

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by 68style

See you don't know a single thing about me, but you went off on a little analysis of me and my belief system anyway.

Any idiot can do that, a logical person doesn't.

DUH its cuz you have a mexican rat in your avatar.

YOU HE/SHE/IT/ALIEN/DONKEY

[westopher]

I love the sports argument haha. Like the same people haven't spent their whole lives talking about how shitty womens sports are but think that people are becoming trans to win shotput.
I know two trans women who were born men, and 3 trans men who were born women. Since people only base their reality upon what they heard once without looking into it any further you now know that there have to be more trans men born women than trans women born men, none of them play sports because you heard it here. All the problems are now solved.
Guess what, also, none of them have ever caused an issue over an accidental misgendering (you wouldn't misgender any of them anymore, that was during transition) so who's really the one with the mental illness here? The people just going on living their lives as who they want to be? Or the ones telling them they can't because they are afraid of some underlying malicious motivation to groom kids, use the opposite bathrooms or cheat at sports? Who's the fucking delusional one?

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by westopher

so who's really the one with the mental illness here? The people just going on living their lives as who they want to be? Or the ones telling them they can't because they are afraid of some underlying malicious motivation to groom kids, use the opposite bathrooms or cheat at sports? Who's the fucking delusional one?

Don't forget accusing them of wanting to replace women... That's totally a theory that a mentally stable person would believe.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by westopher

I love the sports argument haha. Like the same people haven't spent their whole lives talking about how shitty womens sports are but think that people are becoming trans to win shotput.
I know two trans women who were born men, and 3 trans men who were born women. Since people only base their reality upon what they heard once without looking into it any further you now know that there have to be more trans men born women than trans women born men, none of them play sports because you heard it here. All the problems are now solved.
Guess what, also, none of them have ever caused an issue over an accidental misgendering (you wouldn't misgender any of them anymore, that was during transition) so who's really the one with the mental illness here? The people just going on living their lives as who they want to be? Or the ones telling them they can't because they are afraid of some underlying malicious motivation to groom kids, use the opposite bathrooms or cheat at sports? Who's the fucking delusional one?

I said that they are welcome to do/say/believe whatever they want.

But the problem is that they want to force that ideology onto others. To force others to think that this is ok, this is good.

Why can't we just go back to the time when it is actually ok to disagree? The very idea that we, as humans, disagree is what propels us forward.

If we simply agreed that Earth was flat and it's the center of the universe, then, many of the greatest discoveries wouldn't have happened.

Oh yes, now the libs are going to claim that I'm "forcing" my ideologies onto them. No. What I'm saying is why don't we keep it to ourselves, think/believe/say whatever the fuck we want, and simply RESPECT that there are people who think different than us? Your way of thinking is right, my way of thinking is also right and all the other billions of ways of thinking are also right.

We are only human. We will be different and not perfect. And that is OK.

It is ok to queer to dress however they want in public, be it at library, school, street... etc. But it is also ok for people to not like the way queer think/dress. It's a personal opinion. Let's not elevate everything to homophobic and discrimination. It's simply just a disagreement. And as long as we respect the very principle that people should be allowed to have different opinions, that would be a huge step forward for humanity.

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by Hehe

I said that they are welcome to do/say/believe whatever they want.

But the problem is that they want to force that ideology onto others. To force others to think that this is ok, this is good.

Why can't we just go back to the time when it is actually ok to disagree? The very idea that we, as humans, disagree is what propels us forward.

If we simply agreed that Earth was flat and it's the center of the universe, then, many of the greatest discoveries wouldn't have happened.

Oh yes, now the libs are going to claim that I'm "forcing" my ideologies onto them. No. What I'm saying is why don't we keep it to ourselves, think/believe/say whatever the fuck we want, and simply RESPECT that there are people who think different than us? Your way of thinking is right, my way of thinking is also right and all the other billions of ways of thinking are also right.

We are only human. We will be different and not perfect. And that is OK.

It is ok to queer to dress however they want in public, be it at library, school, street... etc. But it is also ok for people to not like the way queer think/dress. It's a personal opinion. Let's not elevate everything to homophobic and discrimination. It's simply just a disagreement. And as long as we respect the very principle that people should be allowed to have different opinions, that would be a huge step forward for humanity.

The problem is not people not liking it or disagreeing. I disagree with a lot of things.The problem is when people who disagree try to ban it. If you don't like drag story time don't go. But don't go to a library to harass people who do go. in the states some places have banned drag shows altogether.


Yes that's PP in the middle with a guy wearing a straight pride shirt.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Hehe

I said that they are welcome to do/say/believe whatever they want.

But the problem is that they want to force that ideology onto others. To force others to think that this is ok, this is good.

Why can't we just go back to the time when it is actually ok to disagree? The very idea that we, as humans, disagree is what propels us forward.

If we simply agreed that Earth was flat and it's the center of the universe, then, many of the greatest discoveries wouldn't have happened.

Oh yes, now the libs are going to claim that I'm "forcing" my ideologies onto them. No. What I'm saying is why don't we keep it to ourselves, think/believe/say whatever the fuck we want, and simply RESPECT that there are people who think different than us? Your way of thinking is right, my way of thinking is also right and all the other billions of ways of thinking are also right.

We are only human. We will be different and not perfect. And that is OK.

It is ok to queer to dress however they want in public, be it at library, school, street... etc. But it is also ok for people to not like the way queer think/dress. It's a personal opinion. Let's not elevate everything to homophobic and discrimination. It's simply just a disagreement. And as long as we respect the very principle that people should be allowed to have different opinions, that would be a huge step forward for humanity.

Because it's a human rights issue, not a "person opinion" issue. These people want to be treated like humans, but people aren't treating them that way.

The US went through the same thing with gay people, black people, and women, and going back through western civilizations, it was more and more people wanting to gain rights and just exist as everyone else. Now we're up to trans people. And every step of the way there are peanut brained bigots trying to stop it, all throughout history.

[westopher]

Saying "hey you can't come in here because you're trans" isn't like saying "I don't like broccoli"
These aren't opinions, and that's why these people are "shoving it in your face"
Hehe I'm not saying you are trying to actively prevent these people from doing something, but people are regularly treating these people like second class citizens. Being offended because they are saying that it's unacceptable isn't having their lifestyle jammed down your throat. If you do in fact believe that they shouldn't be treated poorly, you have the option to either get on their side, or stand to the side out of the way, but if you're offended or annoyed by someone standing up for themselves, you really don't believe that they deserve equal treatment.

[whitev70r]

What about the argument that this will lead to a slippery slope?

For example, what about polyamourous living ... is that a preference or a born thing? Suppose a polyamourous family of 3 (one husband, 2 wives) argued for human rights, right to get married, right to family tax provisions, right to adopt, etc.? I mean it wasn't so long ago that we just made polygamy against the law. (Mormons getting all giddy with polyamourous ... saying, I told you it was a good thing )

[westopher]

Everything can always be the slippery slope argument. Look at the entire last 3 years of covid. According to antivaxxers all of our DNA should be altered by now and we have permanent curfews and are only allowed to go 15 minutes from our house.
Polyamory makes no difference to me either as long as it's consenting adults. The issue with so much of it before is it was based in religious (cult) manipulation and underage participants.
The fact still remains that we can allow one thing and not another, it's literally how society operates.

[MarkyMark]

Originally Posted by Hehe

IMHO, this whole BTQ (not LG) thing is nothing more than some men trying to demonstrate patriarchy in a world where they couldn't otherwise gain that "15min of fame" they seek.

Hey now Miss Netherlands won fair and square

[Traum]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

For example, what about polyamourous living ... is that a preference or a born thing? Suppose a polyamourous family of 3 (one husband, 2 wives) argued for human rights, right to get married, right to family tax provisions, right to adopt, etc.? I mean it wasn't so long ago that we just made polygamy against the law. (Mormons getting all giddy with polyamourous ... saying, I told you it was a good thing )

Polygamy is generally a poor example because rich people have been doing it on a regular basis for eternity. Plus, from an evolutionary biology POV, it actually make sense.

IMO monogamy is only invented and made into law / the norm as a societal form of (human) resource distribution. Without it, the family-forming ratio will heavily skew in favour of the alpha males, and that will create societal conflicts among the masses. In fact, the arrangements be detrimental to everyone except for the alpha male, and create social unrest. By formalizing monogamy in a legal sense, resource distribution becomes more even, and the big alpha males will still get to engage in polygamy anyway lol~