This is fuckn disgusting. Inviting children to a drag queen event at Coquitlam libr

[underscore]

Originally Posted by The7even

I find it a bit strange that all the drag queens are always men pretending to be women...and never the other way around. Hmmmmm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_king

ACAB

[Great68]

Originally Posted by The7even

I refuse to play along with their mental disorder. It's that simple.

I guess you don't work in a very outward facing job?
I could just imagine how that would go down in a professional workplace, or even better where that person is a customer/client.

I have one of these non-binary individuals I deal with, one of our large key customer/accounts.

I'd have a pretty tough time explaining to my bosses that I refused to respect this person enough to use their desired pronouns, and as a result lost major business.

It would never happen because I'm not an asshole and do respect this person, whatever they want to be called.

So, I'm just curious of what you'd do if you were in that situation? Tell this person "too fucking bad, you look like a man so I'm calling you a he" and accept the fallout or are you just talking a big game online when in reality you'd be a big hypocrite?

[westopher]

Originally Posted by The7even

I find it a bit strange that all the drag queens are always men pretending to be women...and never the other way around. Hmmmmm




I refuse to play along with their mental disorder. It's that simple.

A. That isn't true.
B. Wow you're so brave.

[mikemhg]

He's got the thin blue line as his profile pic, would it be any surprise that he's a prick, essentially?

Saying you refuse to play along with someone's "mental disorder" is a pretty ridiculous thing to even state.

I'm not even some lefty woke guy either, it's just basic human respect at that point.

[westopher]

He's the type of guy that would call everyone a snowflake then have a thermonuclear meltdown over a fuckin rainbow beer can.

[The7even]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

He's got the thin blue line as his profile pic, would it be any surprise that he's a prick, essentially?

Saying you refuse to play along with someone's "mental disorder" is a pretty ridiculous thing to even state.

I'm not even some lefty woke guy either, it's just basic human respect at that point.

You don't have to be not lefty to not have any principles of your own, you'll just fall for anything pushed to you. I've been on this board for near 20 years, never would have this been a discussion even 10 years ago, much less when I got on here.

Originally Posted by Great68

I guess you don't work in a very outward facing job?
I could just imagine how that would go down in a professional workplace, or even better where that person is a customer/client.

I have one of these non-binary individuals I deal with, one of our large key customer/accounts.

I'd have a pretty tough time explaining to my bosses that I refused to respect this person enough to use their desired pronouns, and as a result lost major business.

It would never happen because I'm not an asshole and do respect this person, whatever they want to be called.

So, I'm just curious of what you'd do if you were in that situation? Tell this person "too fucking bad, you look like a man so I'm calling you a he" and accept the fallout or are you just talking a big game online when in reality you'd be a big hypocrite?

I'm a LEO, all my work is outward facing.

"I have one of these non-binary individuals I deal with, one of our large key customer/accounts"

That's nice, you're dealing with someone who has mental health issues is the right way to look at it. Which is fine, it probably doesn't have any bearing on their work.

"I'd have a pretty tough time explaining to my bosses that I refused to respect this person enough to use their desired pronouns, and as a result lost major business"

Sure, you do it so you don't have to explain to your boss why a person with mental health issues is mad at you. It's simpler to just play along, I don't disagree, you don't have to go out of your way to point out that they're messed up in the head. But I won't go out of my way and part-take in their delusions either.

"It would never happen because I'm not an asshole and do respect this person, whatever they want to be called"

I never said to call them out on it either. But since I assume most of us here are not dealing with this issue I could be honest. If you want to lie to your self so that you can feel morally good about your self go right ahead.

"So, I'm just curious of what you'd do if you were in that situation? Tell this person "too fucking bad, you look like a man so I'm calling you a he" and accept the fallout or are you just talking a big game online when in reality you'd be a big hypocrite?"

I would not go out of my way to point out to them 'hey you're a man / you're a woman', I'd just ignore it, probably refer to them by their name. If they put me in a position where I have to tell them what I think I will let them know or I'll avoid the topic. Again, like I said, between us here, that is how I feel.

Originally Posted by underscore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_king

ACAB

Whoa, don't cut your self on all that edge.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by The7even

I'm a LEO, all my work is outward facing.

That's nice, you're dealing with someone who has mental health issues is the right way to look at it. Which is fine, it probably doesn't have any bearing on their work.

Hmm... a LEO who thinks your belief that an LGBTQ+ is someone with a mental health issue is the correct view, and refuses to accept looking at it from another angle...

This is why it is absolutely wrong to only send police officers to do mental health checks on people that need them.


I hope you'd have a good day.

[westopher]

Originally Posted by The7even

You don't have to be not lefty to not have any principles of your own, you'll just fall for anything pushed to you. I've been on this board for near 20 years, never would have this been a discussion even 10 years ago, much less when I got on here.




I'm a LEO, all my work is outward facing.

"I have one of these non-binary individuals I deal with, one of our large key customer/accounts"

That's nice, you're dealing with someone who has mental health issues is the right way to look at it. Which is fine, it probably doesn't have any bearing on their work.

"I'd have a pretty tough time explaining to my bosses that I refused to respect this person enough to use their desired pronouns, and as a result lost major business"

Sure, you do it so you don't have to explain to your boss why a person with mental health issues is mad at you. It's simpler to just play along, I don't disagree, you don't have to go out of your way to point out that they're messed up in the head. But I won't go out of my way and part-take in their delusions either.

"It would never happen because I'm not an asshole and do respect this person, whatever they want to be called"

I never said to call them out on it either. But since I assume most of us here are not dealing with this issue I could be honest. If you want to lie to your self so that you can feel morally good about your self go right ahead.

"So, I'm just curious of what you'd do if you were in that situation? Tell this person "too fucking bad, you look like a man so I'm calling you a he" and accept the fallout or are you just talking a big game online when in reality you'd be a big hypocrite?"

I would not go out of my way to point out to them 'hey you're a man / you're a woman', I'd just ignore it, probably refer to them by their name. If they put me in a position where I have to tell them what I think I will let them know or I'll avoid the topic. Again, like I said, between us here, that is how I feel.




Whoa, don't cut your self on all that edge.

I think the edgelord here would be the cop, whose job it is to deal with people, having no interest in basic respect for certain groups.
Why do you think people have problems with cops? You're the perfect example of why Vancouver pride said they didn't want VPD there, because members like you make marginalized people uncomfortable, for good reason.

[donk.]

Vpd has bigger fish to fry, snowflakes melt on visual contact

[The7even]

Originally Posted by Traum

Hmm... a LEO who thinks your belief that an LGBTQ+ is someone with a mental health issue is the correct view, and refuses to accept looking at it from another angle...

This is why it is absolutely wrong to only send police officers to do mental health checks on people that need them.


I hope you'd have a good day.

I didn't say being gay, bisexual or a lesbian is a mental disorder.

Wanting people to call you xe / xir or whatever stupid thing you can come up with and having a total mental breakdown when someone doesn't is.

I did look at it from another angle. Here's the angle.
What you actually didn't know is that I'm transgender my self, and I use the pronouns 'master / commander' Monday through Friday and on the weekends I go by they / them. I am fluid after all. If you don't believe me it's because you're being bigoted and refuse to accept me for who I am.
That's what us trans people deal with on a daily basis though, not that you'd understand.

[SkinnyPupp]

Not all cops are bastards

This one is though

[T4RAWR]

Originally Posted by Traum

Hmm... a LEO who thinks your belief that an LGBTQ+ is someone with a mental health issue is the correct view, and refuses to accept looking at it from another angle...

This is why it is absolutely wrong to only send police officers to do mental health checks on people that need them.


I hope you'd have a good day.

Police shouldn't go at all. They should just send nurses and social workers.

[westopher]

You're 100% right about that, but when people suggest that being put into the budget the "thin blue line" crowd loses their collective minds.
So here we are, stuck with people like this guy going in to "de escalate a situation" with a mindset like shown above.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by T4RAWR

Police shouldn't go at all. They should just send nurses and social workers.

I suppose that's a different topic of discussion, but IMO, there should be a police presence there, because sometimes people with mental health issues can get violent. But they should just kind of stay in the background and not intervene unless there are signs of danger. The psych nurse / social worker should be the one to take the lead and do the majority of the work.

[T4RAWR]

Originally Posted by Traum

I suppose that's a different topic of discussion, but IMO, there should be a police presence there, because sometimes people with mental health issues can get violent. But they should just kind of stay in the background and not intervene unless there are signs of danger. The psych nurse / social worker should be the one to take the lead and do the majority of the work.

They can be given some basic use of force options and a stab proof vest and be sent in.

It should be a risk they accept as part of the job.

Besides, most police officers don't want to go to mental health calls anyways.

[whitev70r]

Remember this RCMP officer? Stabbed by a mental health person living in a tent in Burnaby.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by The7even

Whoa, don't cut your self on all that edge.

That's funny coming from someone who says this.

Originally Posted by The7even

I refuse to play along with their mental disorder. It's that simple.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

Remember this RCMP officer? Stabbed by a mental health person living in a tent in Burnaby.

And nothings changed.

[The7even]

Originally Posted by westopher

You're 100% right about that, but when people suggest that being put into the budget the "thin blue line" crowd loses their collective minds.
So here we are, stuck with people like this guy going in to "de escalate a situation" with a mindset like shown above.

Please don't call me "guy" again, bigot. I told you what my pronouns are.

[westopher]

Sorry when I said guy I meant dipshit. Don't cancel me on parler.

[hud 91gt]

Originally Posted by T4RAWR

Police shouldn't go at all. They should just send nurses and social workers.

Great in theory. They really are required to be on site in case things go sideways. My wife use to volunteer for St Paul’s in her youngest years. She would head into the downtown east side with a walkie talkie trying to find the individuals who missed their dialysis appointments (or was it HIV stuff, I can’t keep it straight). She’s pretty damn good at descalating situations but it was pretty unsafe. No matter how wel trained someone is in psychology, you can’t control drug behaviour.

Now talk about a large group, all being removed? I’d suspect it gets a little more tense.

[underscore]

I can't remember which city in the US created a mental health response team, I want to say it was Denver or Portland? But they haven't had to get assistance from police at all.

[Badhobz]

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[The7even]

Originally Posted by underscore

I can't remember which city in the US created a mental health response team, I want to say it was Denver or Portland? But they haven't had to get assistance from police at all.

Portland is a liberal shit hole, you peck.

And so are most of the cities that've embraced policies you'd probably advocate for.

[68style]

I remember the old 7even being a workout dude with tough but at least logical views, not a condescending prick spouting generalizations.