I'm not saying don't buy made in China wheels (or at least I wasn't) simply pointing out that the alibaba wheels aren't reps of reps. They just are said reps (apex) that aren't coming in an apex box.

so what youre saying is.... just buy the alibaba "apex" cuz its the same shit.

who wants to get in on this with me?!?! Dbone??:alonehappy:

Are you telling me

This from Alibaba is going to be the same as This?

Friend of mine got some pretty nice forged 19" wheels from Alibaba, and is super happy with them. I believe hey were 19" 5x112.

I yet to see a set of "fake" wheels explode and kill anyone.

You also cant convince me a length of stainless pipe for M3 exhuast costs 7 times more than the length of pipe on a civic.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBPwt...ZycDkzdTQwd3Rx

This IG account calls out a lot of "made in US" companies out, it's pretty interesting to say the least

If you've looked anywhere absolutely reps have made accidents worse as garbage like Rota would break at all the spokes as opposed to bending like a wheel they are copying. Missing a wheel and tire is going to have a worse result than a bent wheel that stays attached to your car.
Still though, the essence of these apex reps is they are built to the standard of a decent wheel with just stolen designs. That's why so many people use them. They aren't trash reps, they are just cheaper then the real thing.

I only buy AAA+ Reps

They are $1300 a wheel for a 19inch! If that's the rep price, what do people pay for legit wheels?

Ask Asanti

There's big a difference between full-out fakes that fake the brand as well (ie "BBS" wheels off Aliexpress) and reps where they copy the design and just make it differently (ie Rota Grid). The difference between reps and "legit" wheels is much smaller and not as significant. iirc an Aussie news channel did testing a few years back and the fakes were super sketch but the reps were fine. If you're hitting something hard enough to break the spokes you've got bigger problems.

I know some people get sniffy about rep brands copying designs, but some of them come out with their own designs as well, and if you do some digging even most of the "legit" brands have copied designs from other companies.

Apparently $2195 a wheel lol. Fuck this shit. So glad I buy wheels from 30 years ago.

https://www.rzev.com/images/spd/prod...00/106061.webp

https://www.dsgperformance.ca/cdn/sh...g?v=1698517728

Is this a clone, rep, fake or homage?

^ that's exactly what I mean, dig through the catalogues and release dates and all those expensive brands have copied designs from others.

I know I'm cheap but that's nearly what I paid for a whole car with vintage "legit" wheels.

Probably none of the above since they don't look like the same wheels.

Lol.. fuck that is right. I think I paid <$500 per for the made in Japan Work wheels for my evo and they were great.

So a homage then

That said tho, on my last road trip I cracked a pair of Volk Racing TE37SLs.. apparently the SLs are known to bend. I didn't even find out that it was damaged until I went to go swap on different tires LOL. Considering it held air this entire time, it's pretty good... but also I'm surprised that TE37s would bend and crack. I suppose this is the difference - cheap rep = 1 crack = GG -> Expensive wheel = 7 cracks and still not GG

Wheel 1: 5 cracks, 2 micro cracks, 1 bend
Wheel 2: 1 large crack, 2 micro cracks, 2 bends

I took it to Greens and they were like... ...These are non repairable LOL

That said, I wouldn't trust it anyway even if it was repaired.

konig has come a long way from the early 2000s. sure they still have a crapload of ugly ricer wheels but they also have some really nice tasteful ones with aerodisc options.

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You parked awfully close to that M2 bruh... definitely shaded in that spot toward it anyway, asking for trouble!!!

He parked next to me lol. It was a quick in and out for me, didn’t bother picking a good spot cuz the lot was empty. All the free spots and he parked next to me and gave me the finger guns. I can see why he picked that spot but why did he not hug the yellow?!?!

^ you left yourself open. I would have hugged the yellow as the first car there instead of leaving both sides open.

Parking next to a pedestrian walkway isn't always the safest either. The same ppl that can't see things when driving tends to walk into things as well. It's fucking ridiculous

That is why driving a beater or a car you don't care about as a daily is awesome.