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^ the amount of dog on leash content, on this forum lately, is insane
Someone get mikemgh in here
Why spend money on tinkering a JDM car, parts are disappearing, it's all a money sink.
I keep my cars stock and change them every 3 years.
I agree with Traum, spend your midlife crisis dollars on acquiring STDs from hookers, Cannondale bikes, and air miles
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LOOK AT ME IM MIKE AND I HAVE A BIG HOG AND I DRINK TEQULA AND WORK OUT AND LISTEN TO CHARLI XCX ON THE BEACH IN BERMUDA
Grow up fuckin Peter Pan and get a good nights rest.
I'm no expert, but I've been seeing 996's (2001-2005) ranging in the high 20's to mid 30's. Most are usually 100k+. Ironically, 2 of the 5 i browsed were also imported from Japan.
seems alright, but dont go nuts in terms of budget... just in case of IMS failures / bore scoring / or / and other German-related fatalities.
@bcedhk - Trust that I'm not trying to rain on your parade. What I will share is with best intentions, and ultimately, you will need to make a decision or dive further in your search. This is a very long read, so take your time.
For disclosure, both myself and Badhobz owned a 996. I had an 04 C2 with 50,000KM. I sold it with 62,500KM. I can't remember which model year he owned, but he mentioned that it nearly killed him, so I'll let him speak to that.
Spoiler!
My ownership experience was positive. I liked the car a lot as it was very civil. You could drive it to work, go to school, get groceries, go for a cruise, date night with your partner etc.
Under my ownership, the vehicle was generally trouble free. I had to replace the brake light switch which caused the ABS fault to go off and it was a real pain in the ass to replace because you had to have a flexibility of a 14-year old Romanian gymnast.
Outside of general maintenance like fluid changes and filter changes, they are very easy to maintain. You'll come across some examples where people will tell you the IMS is going to explode, your engine is going to explode, your transmission is going to explode, your mom is going to explode. I'm sorry, but a lot of it is unsubstantiated. You might get some odd ball leaks here and there, but remember, this generation of 911 is now 20+ years old. The 996 was one of the most reliable European cars I owned.
Yes, parts can get expensive. I've said this before, but the PCar tax is real. Porsche gatekeeps the supply chain tightly and local dealers can really dick you on stupid things. You have to find a mechanic you can trust and is willing to work on the car if you don't plan on doing maintenance yourself. There is nothing difficult or complicated on these cars, with the exception of you might need a PIWIS or Durametric scanner to perform some level of diagnostics. There is a lot of support and knowledge on these cars online as well. There are a few independent shops in the GVRD who can take care of you, but you'll need to find a shop you can trust. Some are more enterprising than others.
These cars have yo-yo'd from the depreciation curve. They can be had for low $20s to high $40s but have bounced back, so prices are all over the place and the nostalgia and COVID tax is real. What you really need to be mindful of is whether a car has had routine maintenance and a stack of receipts from an enthusiast. I have learned these cars NEED to be driven. Low mileage examples are often a Pandora's Box. You never know if you'll get a gem or a complete disaster that will bankrupt you and really sour your ownership experience. Also, dealing with Porsche Canada these past few years has been a real pain in the ass and it has really annoyed me to another level. I would like to think of myself as a patient and easy going person. Porsche Canada has really tested me. If Porsche Canada was an actual real person, I would kick him in the nuts. Twice.
When I moved to Toronto, I sold the 996. I found a 986 Boxster S to fill the void and similarly, the car has been very reliable. I put in the time and money to maintain it, and it has been a rewarding experience. The only time the car left me stranded was a month or two ago where my shifter cable snapped, but that was on me because I heavily track the car and beat the crap out of it, so this was bound to happen.
Some people here cried and called foul on its reliability and said it was expensive and unreliable. Sure, it was expensive to replace the cables, but this was also a 20+ year old car that I heavily tracked. Emphasis on hard. Think about it for a second. How many people here are willing to hit the rev limiter on their motors? I'm sure very few, do. I've hit the rev limiter on my car so many times that the ECU has hit the dreaded 65,535. For peace of mind, I had the motor bore scoped, compression and leakdown tested. The numbers came back with flying colours. I have 155,500KM on the original engine. If you take care of these cars, it will take care of you.
I've been meaning to get back into a 996/997, but life's priorities have shifted as I went back to school. I would happily recommend anyone to get into a 996 given a solid maintenance history and reasonable mileage and general condition. For your JDM journey, I suggest you do more research on what you can expect should you import one. If you decide to sell yours, I'm always open to buying from a fellow enthusiast provided I can afford one.
Best of luck on your search!
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I'm open books right now when it comes to which car, but i think it's mainly either 996s, Cayman, Boxster or SLK? I've been browsing at FB Marketplace from time to time, and I do notice several 996's, Cayman or Audi TT's (almost most TT seem to be RHD) that were brought over from Japan. Hence, I figured maybe I could do it myself to save more money since my partner is fluent in Japanese.
I know an acquaintance who imported a 987 Boxster from Japan. At the time when he was servicing the vehicle, it turned out that some sort of emissions equipment is different between the JDM car and the CDM / USDM cars, and he had trouble finding the right parts to get that fixed. There could have been more stuff downstream from the engine that were also different, but I am not 100% certain on the details of the story.
I guess the take away is -- expect the major items to be the same, but don't be surprised when the accessory stuff are different, which may lead to headaches. But I guess that's par for course with JDM imports.
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The whole world has gone down a road no one can recover from, and it's nothing to do with governments, it's because so much of the general public is so fucking stupid.
You'll get some Easter egg surprises from the JDM imports when it comes to Porsche. For the most part, you'll be okay, but once you hit a snag, Japan is your only option.
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First, you have to be brave enough to endure the clap-back from rubes such as yourself
For disclosure, both myself and Badhobz owned a 996. I had an 04 C2 with 50,000KM. I sold it with 62,500KM. I can't remember which model year he owned, but he mentioned that it nearly killed him, so I'll let him speak to that.
Mein Kampf with ze beetle....
It tried to kill me! NUMEROUS TIMES. i won't speak of that monstrosity in polite company.
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I guess I’ll just have to keep an eye on FB and try to beat the horde of mid-life crisis RS owners to snag a well-cared-for, unmolested 996 from a 70-year-old West Van gweilo who needs to sell it because of hip surgery...
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MG1: in fact, a new term needs to make its way into the American dictionary. Trump............ he's such a "Trump" = ultimate insult. Like, "yray, you're such a trump."
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dapperfied yray so waisis
FastAnna you literally talk out your ass
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I guess I’ll just have to keep an eye on FB and try to beat the horde of mid-life crisis RS owners to snag a well-cared-for, unmolested 996 from a 70-year-old West Van gweilo who needs to sell it because of hip surgery...
You sure you want a 996 though?
I've heard quite a few stories about 996 -- esp the 996.1 -- being not too reliable, unless you get into a 996 GT cars with the Mezger engines.
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The whole world has gone down a road no one can recover from, and it's nothing to do with governments, it's because so much of the general public is so fucking stupid.
@bcedhk - Trust that I'm not trying to rain on your parade. What I will share is with best intentions, and ultimately, you will need to make a decision or dive further in your search. This is a very long read, so take your time.
For disclosure, both myself and Badhobz owned a 996. I had an 04 C2 with 50,000KM. I sold it with 62,500KM. I can't remember which model year he owned, but he mentioned that it nearly killed him, so I'll let him speak to that.
Spoiler!
My ownership experience was positive. I liked the car a lot as it was very civil. You could drive it to work, go to school, get groceries, go for a cruise, date night with your partner etc.
Under my ownership, the vehicle was generally trouble free. I had to replace the brake light switch which caused the ABS fault to go off and it was a real pain in the ass to replace because you had to have a flexibility of a 14-year old Romanian gymnast.
Outside of general maintenance like fluid changes and filter changes, they are very easy to maintain. You'll come across some examples where people will tell you the IMS is going to explode, your engine is going to explode, your transmission is going to explode, your mom is going to explode. I'm sorry, but a lot of it is unsubstantiated. You might get some odd ball leaks here and there, but remember, this generation of 911 is now 20+ years old. The 996 was one of the most reliable European cars I owned.
Yes, parts can get expensive. I've said this before, but the PCar tax is real. Porsche gatekeeps the supply chain tightly and local dealers can really dick you on stupid things. You have to find a mechanic you can trust and is willing to work on the car if you don't plan on doing maintenance yourself. There is nothing difficult or complicated on these cars, with the exception of you might need a PIWIS or Durametric scanner to perform some level of diagnostics. There is a lot of support and knowledge on these cars online as well. There are a few independent shops in the GVRD who can take care of you, but you'll need to find a shop you can trust. Some are more enterprising than others.
These cars have yo-yo'd from the depreciation curve. They can be had for low $20s to high $40s but have bounced back, so prices are all over the place and the nostalgia and COVID tax is real. What you really need to be mindful of is whether a car has had routine maintenance and a stack of receipts from an enthusiast. I have learned these cars NEED to be driven. Low mileage examples are often a Pandora's Box. You never know if you'll get a gem or a complete disaster that will bankrupt you and really sour your ownership experience. Also, dealing with Porsche Canada these past few years has been a real pain in the ass and it has really annoyed me to another level. I would like to think of myself as a patient and easy going person. Porsche Canada has really tested me. If Porsche Canada was an actual real person, I would kick him in the nuts. Twice.
When I moved to Toronto, I sold the 996. I found a 986 Boxster S to fill the void and similarly, the car has been very reliable. I put in the time and money to maintain it, and it has been a rewarding experience. The only time the car left me stranded was a month or two ago where my shifter cable snapped, but that was on me because I heavily track the car and beat the crap out of it, so this was bound to happen.
Some people here cried and called foul on its reliability and said it was expensive and unreliable. Sure, it was expensive to replace the cables, but this was also a 20+ year old car that I heavily tracked. Emphasis on hard. Think about it for a second. How many people here are willing to hit the rev limiter on their motors? I'm sure very few, do. I've hit the rev limiter on my car so many times that the ECU has hit the dreaded 65,535. For peace of mind, I had the motor bore scoped, compression and leakdown tested. The numbers came back with flying colours. I have 155,500KM on the original engine. If you take care of these cars, it will take care of you.
I've been meaning to get back into a 996/997, but life's priorities have shifted as I went back to school. I would happily recommend anyone to get into a 996 given a solid maintenance history and reasonable mileage and general condition. For your JDM journey, I suggest you do more research on what you can expect should you import one. If you decide to sell yours, I'm always open to buying from a fellow enthusiast provided I can afford one.
Best of luck on your search!
I would say your use case is the ideal use case. Talked to quite a few ppl who are enthusiasts and sells these things. Puttering around town is not good for the engine, you want to let it warm up and drive it hard, so basically your track day. Starting the car driving it 5 mins to the shops and back home is the basically the optimal scenario for bore scoring.
Ditto. The short drives and puttering around town is really bad for these cars. You have to let it properly warm up then enjoy them for what they are design to do. The short 5-minute 2000rpm drive will kill these cars. And your wallet. And then your spirit.
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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000
First, you have to be brave enough to endure the clap-back from rubes such as yourself
I guess I’ll just have to keep an eye on FB and try to beat the horde of mid-life crisis RS owners to snag a well-cared-for, unmolested 996 from a 70-year-old West Van gweilo who needs to sell it because of hip surgery...
I did message that guy, but he hasn't responded. His seller rating also is a red flag.
Are Cayman's a better option to find a better deal as they are less desirable? From my initial research, the base Cayman's might not be as prone to catastrophic issues as the Cayman S or 996's. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. But might be a harder task for me to convivence the other half...
The 996 and TT has my wifey approval for now as I have been telling her it can sit up to 4 people. I didn't tell her two of those passengers would have to either be amputees or midgets.
I did message that guy, but he hasn't responded. His seller rating also is a red flag.
Are Cayman's a better option to find a better deal as they are less desirable? From my initial research, the base Cayman's might not be as prone to catastrophic issues as the Cayman S or 996's. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. But might be a harder task for me to convivence the other half...
The 996 and TT has my wifey approval for now as I have been telling her it can sit up to 4 people. I didn't tell her two of those passengers would have to either be amputees or midgets.
You want the 2009+ Caymans. The 2005 - 2008 Caymans are prone to bore scoring and other oddball issues but like I said before, make sure it has all the maintenance done with a huge stack of receipts. They are a "funner" car to drive and something Porsche didn't want people to know without overshadowing the 997.
I'll side with Badhobz and suggest you consider an M3 if you haven't already. If you can do it, get the latest M3. It's a lot of car compared to the competition.
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I still want my BMW R9T Cafe Racer. I want to go out on a big bang. There was one for sale by an RS member and I missed the chance. Definitely the one that got away. Still lusting it after all these years.
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I would recommend to avoid E93 and F33/83 verts. The hardtops are finicky. An accident will almost guarantee it'll never work right again. Ditto any work on it and not put it back together properly.
I'm mid-life, I have kids and I totally understand the whole need to buy a convertible. Don't buy a motorcycle - your kids don't need to see their father end up in a body bag or suffer from a life-changing injury. Buy a 4-seater convertible so you can take your kids for rides.
As some here know, I bought an E46 convertible a few years ago during COVID. It was a neglected example and it's automatic. But, I can at least work on it during my spare time and the parts network is very strong with numerous OEMs who still make parts, unlike Porsche. BMW still makes parts for the car and even their parts are not unreasonable. Don't overlook peak-era BMWs - E46, Z3/Z4, and even a 1-series convertible with the N52.
Another tip - get in the habit of putting on SPF50 (if it's not already part of your skincare regimen) to keep the freckles and sunspots at bay. You'll need it once you get used to driving with the top down.