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Nabatron
06-05-2012, 10:45 AM
Yeah on Sunday drove next to a older fellow probably in his early 30's driving on highway 1 towards metro town..overall my impression from when I saw it driving was sits very low to the ground but is in dier need of new rims and maybe some coilovers to get rid of the gross wheel gap...

I haven't driving one yet since the one here in Langley is an auto and rather drive the standard one to see how it performs..

SumAznGuy
06-05-2012, 10:48 AM
Tuner Challenge FR-S Edition | Scion Tuner Challenge (http://www.tunerchallenge.ca/)

rich

Rich, you'll be one of the drivers competing in this right?

hud 91gt
06-05-2012, 11:03 AM
Yeah on Sunday drove next to a older fellow probably in his early 30's .



How young are you? hah

Nabatron
06-05-2012, 11:31 AM
24 u?

AzNightmare
06-05-2012, 11:40 AM
Damn, what's with the fake vents? I noticed the Genesis has fake plastic vents on their hood too

Vancouver240sx
06-05-2012, 02:05 PM
Rich, you'll be one of the drivers competing in this right?

Only the countdown will tell!

rich

sonick
06-05-2012, 02:19 PM
Damn, what's with the fake vents? I noticed the Genesis has fake plastic vents on their hood too

+1 noticed this at the auto show, looks like crap.

muteki
06-05-2012, 04:38 PM
Tested it today at OpenRoad Scion, love the handling, though the inside could be a bit nicer, I guess that's the trade-off for a cheap but fun car. Very tempting, but the waitlist is for another 3-4 months. :okay:

freakshow
06-05-2012, 04:40 PM
Drove beside a white one around lunch time today.. great looking car

jACEDesignsLtd
06-05-2012, 09:17 PM
father picked his white one up today. Gonna check it out over the weekend and put on an rs decal for extra hp :D

TRDood
06-05-2012, 09:19 PM
I thought the FRS/BRZ only comes in manual. Does the auto shifter look like the Camrys or tC?

toyota86
06-05-2012, 09:29 PM
anyone know if the car can be locally ordered bundled with five axis kit? i asked about trd stuff as well and all the salesmen/parts guy did was look confused.

Vancouver240sx
06-05-2012, 09:34 PM
I've heard those five axis kits are going to be VVEEERRRYYY popular.

rich

muteki
06-05-2012, 09:52 PM
I thought the FRS/BRZ only comes in manual. Does the auto shifter look like the Camrys or tC?

http://image.motortrend.com/f/39528114+w786+ar1/2013-Scion-FR-S-shifter.jpg

TRDood
06-05-2012, 10:09 PM
http://image.motortrend.com/f/39528114+w786+ar1/2013-Scion-FR-S-shifter.jpg

WOW. That's awesome nice.

godwin
06-05-2012, 10:29 PM
I thought the FRS/BRZ only comes in manual. Does the auto shifter look like the Camrys or tC?

The automatic gearbox is modified from the IS-F.. the same trick used by Genesis coupe.

Vancouver240sx
06-06-2012, 10:22 AM
pretty impressive the car can do this kinda stuff in full stock trim

FR-S pro-drifter: relaxed, Scion Brand Manager: about to hurl - YouTube

rich

Santofu
06-06-2012, 11:07 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255463_356407417757617_1273043057_n.jpg
Five Axis/FIVE:AD teamed up with Capcom to create the 25th Anniversary Street Fighter Scion FR-S. Inspired by the Street Fighter character "Ryu", this FR-S is equipped with a FIVE:AD aero kit/spoiler, R5:F wheels and more.

Not sure if I like the two tone paint... :suspicious:

Teriyaki
06-06-2012, 03:29 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/255463_356407417757617_1273043057_n.jpg
Five Axis/FIVE:AD teamed up with Capcom to create the 25th Anniversary Street Fighter Scion FR-S. Inspired by the Street Fighter character "Ryu", this FR-S is equipped with a FIVE:AD aero kit/spoiler, R5:F wheels and more.

Not sure if I like the two tone paint... :suspicious:

Looks like a Ferrari GTO. Love it!

Vancouver240sx
06-06-2012, 03:39 PM
more awesome video: Great driver + FRS + VIR = WIN!!

Mike Skeen: Scion FR-S on track at VIR - YouTube

rich

Nlkko
06-06-2012, 08:09 PM
Nicely done 2 tone paint. God this car looks good!

jACEDesignsLtd
06-06-2012, 08:30 PM
http://distilleryimage0.instagram.com/56d8843cb05411e180c9123138016265_7.jpg
Took it for a spin around the neighbourhood with my father (just like that dad/son subaru commercial heheh).
it's a fun car :D he loves the styling of it.

FatalCloud
06-07-2012, 08:42 AM
^i wish my dad was into cars :( there was this scion fr-s commercial on tv and i mentioned to my dad that i'm going to test drive this car on sunday. he gave me this look that pretty much said 'you better not be spending $ on cars again' :okay:

UFO
06-07-2012, 08:47 AM
With how well the car has been reviewed in stock form for being fun and playful, I wonder how things will change with a set of 'real' wheels and tires. Most reviews seem to note that power is adequate, but with 18's or even 19's and some suitable rubber to match, hopefully this doesn't make the car too sluggish

Vancouver240sx
06-07-2012, 09:38 AM
With how well the car has been reviewed in stock form for being fun and playful, I wonder how things will change with a set of 'real' wheels and tires. Most reviews seem to note that power is adequate, but with 18's or even 19's and some suitable rubber to match, hopefully this doesn't make the car too sluggish

I think that is going to be a common mistake when people modify the FRS/BRZ. If consideration of wheel weight and tire diameter isn't taken into account, the balance could suffer. The car was a BLAST to drive on the crappy stock rubber. I also think one modification that will be very popular is a new flywheel. It felt way way way too heavy for the power of the car.

rich

StylinRed
06-07-2012, 02:15 PM
http://distilleryimage0.instagram.com/56d8843cb05411e180c9123138016265_7.jpg
Took it for a spin around the neighbourhood with my father (just like that dad/son subaru commercial heheh).
it's a fun car :D he loves the styling of it.

you still got the celica! :fullofwin:
thought maybe i was the only one left by now

FatalCloud
06-07-2012, 03:38 PM
STI - SPORT PARTS - SUBARU BRZiZC6j (http://www.sti.jp/parts/catalogue/brz_zc6/index.html)

sti parts for the brz....nice!

Suprarz666
06-07-2012, 05:38 PM
2jz :)
https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/481286_167686366694595_2145965491_n.jpg

Tapioca
06-08-2012, 10:12 AM
I saw one of these on the road for the first time. The styling isn't earth-shattering, but I think it will age very well over time.

LuHua
06-08-2012, 03:13 PM
Dropped by Open Road Scion Port Moody this afternoon to take a look, there were a bunch of people waiting for a test drive so didn't want to bother with the wait, but got a good look at the car. It looks amazing in person in the pearl white color, makes me want one even more.

MrGoodbar
06-08-2012, 04:43 PM
Test drove one, and mine is available for pick up next tuesday. I test drove the automatic transmission and it still gets some good pick up. Didn't like the automatic. I haven't driven an automatic car in ages so I honestly don't know the answer to this question, but is there supposed to be a thud from the transmission when the car downshift back to first and comes to a complete stop? Not that it affects me since I bought the 6spd manual transmission but for potential buyers of the automatic version.

RabidRat
06-08-2012, 05:27 PM
is there supposed to be a thud from the transmission when the car downshift back to first and comes to a complete stop?

Absolutely. It's the car screaming to be put out of its misery. It's knocking on the hood asking you to drive a stake through the block.

Energy
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
Why would people even buy an automatic version of this car? Should have been all manual or a dsg a least.

CorneringArtist
06-08-2012, 06:41 PM
^ Does flappy paddle gearbox count :troll:? IIRC, the auto is derived from either the IS-F or LFA, I don't remember which.

seakrait
06-08-2012, 07:22 PM
july 2012 edition of motortrend:

$28K High-Performance Two-Door Comparison
Cheap Thrills: Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ Face Off Against the Ford Mustang, Hyundai Genesis Coupe, Mazda Miata, and VW GTI

With the average transaction price of a new car in the U.S. at just under $31,000, it's tough going for many an American auto shopper. And if you're a prospective buyer of an "enthusiast" car, whose extra horses and performance parts tend to inflate bottom lines up to the top shelf, the outlook is even grimmer.
Or is it?
The launch of the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ twins has poured a double shot of buzz into the bang-for-the-buck tumbler. For well under 30 large, these two 200-horse coupes offer the tried-and-true formula of front engine, rear drive, and low weight, but add to that a limited-slip, summer Michelins, and a Nuerburgring-tuned suspension. Any questions?

But rather than compare just the Scion and Subaru, we gathered today's hottest two-doors -- the refreshed 305-horse Ford Mustang V-6; the 274-horse Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T; the 2500-pound Mazda Miata, the benchmark for fun; and our front-drive champ, the twin-clutch VW GTI -- to crown the best driver's car, with stipulations that each start at around $25,000 and cash out below today's average transaction. Thus, the subsequent six machines boast average base and as-tested tickets of $24,640 and $28,523, respectively. Better yet, their statistical means -- 0-60 in 6.0 seconds, quarter mile in 14.7 seconds at 95.8 mph, 60-0 in 116 feet, and lateral acceleration of 0.93 g -- make this half-dozen comparable to a 1995 Porsche 911 Carrera 4. Whoa.
To set fast laps at the Streets of Willow Springs, we put hot-shoe Randy Pobst behind the wheel of each. And after the tires and brakes cooled, we evaluated the six on our demanding circuit in Malibu. When the dust settled, one two-door left us cleaning out our garage. - Ron Kiino


Read more: $28k High-Performance Two-Door Comparison - Motor Trend (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1207_high_performance_two_door_comparison/viewall.html#ixzz1xGLhafAH)

apparently the BRZ > FR-S by just a bit due to value and handling.

death_blossom
06-09-2012, 12:23 AM
I also think one modification that will be very popular is a new flywheel. It felt way way way too heavy for the power of the car.

that's a very common thing on Toyotas. they traditionally use a fairly heavy flywheel, even on their sports cars.

FRStan
06-09-2012, 04:17 AM
Test drove one, and mine is available for pick up next tuesday. I test drove the automatic transmission and it still gets some good pick up. Didn't like the automatic. I haven't driven an automatic car in ages so I honestly don't know the answer to this question, but is there supposed to be a thud from the transmission when the car downshift back to first and comes to a complete stop? Not that it affects me since I bought the 6spd manual transmission but for potential buyers of the automatic version.

Where did you purchase FR-S? I put a deposit down two weeks ago and I gotta wait two months

:okay:

I test drove the white one at OpenRoad Port Moody. The automatic transmission really ruins the car, IMO. D mode was terrible.

MrGoodbar
06-09-2012, 05:17 AM
Where did you purchase FR-S? I put a deposit down two weeks ago and I gotta wait two months

:okay:

I test drove the white one at OpenRoad Port Moody. The automatic transmission really ruins the car, IMO. D mode was terrible.

Open road toyota in richmond. Second day in a row that i havent been able to sleep because race car

MrGoodbar
06-09-2012, 07:42 AM
Where did you purchase FR-S? I put a deposit down two weeks ago and I gotta wait two months

:okay:

I test drove the white one at OpenRoad Port Moody. The automatic transmission really ruins the car, IMO. D mode was terrible.

By the way, i put in a deposit beginning of april.

jACEDesignsLtd
06-09-2012, 07:56 AM
my celica is auto (had it for 12 years) and compared to the auto frs, in terms of performance, I'd take the FRS. Now Why would one want an auto? everyone one has their reasons.
The paddle shift on the frs is quick and responsive between gears. I was impressed. It succeeded where my e-shift Celica fell short.

But there are other factors to consider like practicality. the frs has virtually has no trunk space and leg room for back seats. My celica can fit a canopy, chairs, tables, etc all in one go; ask any rs mod for an eyewitness account ;) and my celica can fit two passengers in the back (if ever u need to give friends an unexpected lift home).

but definitely I would imagine the manual transmission frs would be wayyyyyyy more fun to drive, just like a manual celica.

FRStan
06-09-2012, 09:11 AM
Any of you guys got the upgraded audio?

FatalCloud
06-10-2012, 12:47 PM
fr-s automatic very responsive..but mid-top end the power drops off, couldn't really test the handling, car didn't seem outrageously light, yeah backseat area almost no room, trunk space is alright/doable, very deep but height?wise is small. interior is ok, cheap toyota plastic.

hk20000
06-10-2012, 02:35 PM
my celica is auto (had it for 12 years) and compared to the auto frs, in terms of performance, I'd take the FRS. Now Why would one want an auto? everyone one has their reasons.
The paddle shift on the frs is quick and responsive between gears. I was impressed. It succeeded where my e-shift Celica fell short.

But there are other factors to consider like practicality. the frs has virtually has no trunk space and leg room for back seats. My celica can fit a canopy, chairs, tables, etc all in one go; ask any rs mod for an eyewitness account ;) and my celica can fit two passengers in the back (if ever u need to give friends an unexpected lift home).

but definitely I would imagine the manual transmission frs would be wayyyyyyy more fun to drive, just like a manual celica.
Same here with my AE86 hatch....The amount of space in the back is uncanny for a sports car.

Regularly used for Ikea moving duties when other cars fell short. Until the Cube came along. :fullofwin:

JoshuaWong
06-10-2012, 02:51 PM
the auto is the same as the IS-F, albeit with 6 speed instead of 8. Its plenty good enough but it dosn't work as well as in the IS-F for whatever reason. I still prefer a real DCT like the one in my M3.

Its still a very fun car with either tranny because, all i find myself doing is throw/fling the car into corner at every possible occasion... everything else just dosnt really matter :fullofwin:

jACEDesignsLtd
06-10-2012, 09:43 PM
My celica was SO spacious when the back seats were folded down. More trunk space than my wife's big camry.

http://oi50.tinypic.com/24vku4p.jpg

Also there's prius tires on the FR-s, no? I heard that this was done on purpose.. so you can.. well you know :whistle:

StylinRed
06-10-2012, 10:51 PM
yeah the trunk in the celi is excellent

does the frs/brz seats fold down?

wstce92
06-10-2012, 11:32 PM
I'm having a real hard time trying to decide between a decent AP2 S2K and a Scion FR-S

mb_
06-10-2012, 11:39 PM
Buy both, LOL

LuHua
06-10-2012, 11:55 PM
yeah the trunk in the celi is excellent

does the frs/brz seats fold down?

Yea, they fold flat. Not a lot of height in the trunk as you can imagine but it's deep enough with the seats down to fit 4 wheels for a track day.

wstce92
06-11-2012, 12:17 AM
are any of the dealerships requiring a deposit to test drive?

JoshuaWong
06-11-2012, 12:44 AM
I'm having a real hard time trying to decide between a decent AP2 S2K and a Scion FR-S

I prefer the s2k, but i needed a bit of practicality and i like coupes better than softop

FatalCloud
06-11-2012, 07:33 AM
are any of the dealerships requiring a deposit to test drive?

no deposits required from regency scion or openroad

death_blossom
06-11-2012, 07:44 AM
so, can anyone tell me the benefit of having both direct injection and port injection on the car? doesn't make so much sense to have so many fuel injectors, unless you're making mega power.

Araaadi
06-11-2012, 07:46 AM
Did any of you guys finance your FRS? I am very interested in getting one, but the high finance rates are making me think of genesis instead.

Mr.Jay
06-11-2012, 09:50 AM
I like the s2k as well but it isn't very DD friendly plus I think the FRS can be driven to the limit is much easily to control and handle. S2K is however the faster car and I like the stick in it a tad more. Both are great cars tho.

If you are a recent grad (within 4 years) or going to grad within 4 months you can get a better rate

Had a terrible buying exp with OP richmond I will not be buying anything from them ever again nor given them any recommendations

Araaadi
06-11-2012, 10:13 AM
Explain your experience with OP Richmond. I just started post secondary :(.
Just looked into the brz so for around 29k you get navi/leather/fogs/pushtostart. Leaning towards the premium brz now.

UFO
06-11-2012, 11:26 AM
so, can anyone tell me the benefit of having both direct injection and port injection on the car? doesn't make so much sense to have so many fuel injectors, unless you're making mega power.

I recall dangonay saying years ago way back in the day that Toyota/Lexus was unable to get proper air velocity at lower flow rates to work properly with DI, and had to add additional injectors to get everything to work properly. Or something like that

UFO
06-11-2012, 11:29 AM
yeah the trunk in the celi is excellent


More due to the hatch opening vs trunk lid opening.

I guess the trunk lid is simpler than the hatch and allows for a convertible to be more easily co-engineered vs. a hatch which offers more versatility.

Mr.Jay
06-11-2012, 12:33 PM
Explain your experience with OP Richmond. I just started post secondary :(.
Just looked into the brz so for around 29k you get navi/leather/fogs/pushtostart. Leaning towards the premium brz now.


The short version of the story is I pre-order right after the 1st concept came out was told they will deliver based off a 1st come 1st serve but when it came down to it 3 other people got their cars before me including one that was the exact config as mine( I was no 2 he was no 6 on the list). They told me they couldn't do my PDI as it was too busy but PDI 2 other FRS in the meantime. Was told I can pick my car up on the 4th then every consecutive day after that since they never got it ready for me until when I actually got it which was the 8th (tho they tried to make me wait until today) They also lied to me saying that they didn't move any cars and I was still going to be no 2 yet I saw them post up the black FRS sale on their FB as well as the same config one was sold during that time. Also tried to screw me out of my grad rebate.

In the end they didn't do anything to make it up to me at all and didn't give me any kind of explanation as to why these events played out as they did.


The sport tech BRZ will cost you roughly 35K out the door I had a pre-order for one as well

wstce92
06-11-2012, 12:42 PM
Did any of you guys finance your FRS? I am very interested in getting one, but the high finance rates are making me think of genesis instead.

I went today, the finance rates are 2.9/3.9/4.9/5.15 for 2&3/4/5/6 years respectively.
The grad discount is for people about to graduate (I think it was if you're 6 months away) and people who have graduated within the past 4 years. Which I've past :okay:.
The discount is $1000 off and 0.2% rebate on interest.

UFO
06-11-2012, 01:07 PM
The car literally JUST came out. Finance rates are rarely appealing for brand spanking new release cars. Wait til Christmas/New Years when the buzz has worn off a bit, and when Toyota seems to do the 0.9 lease/finance for 4 yrs or something similar

Araaadi
06-11-2012, 01:33 PM
:okay: yea, I guess I'll wait it out. Not too happy with my civic anymore. Sad to say, but it's just boring. I'll just keep my eye on the rates. I need to stop trying to rush things.

NLY
06-11-2012, 01:43 PM
^ you should keep those comments to yourself especially if you're selling the vehicle on the site lol

It could to used as a tactic by lowballers

delSol97
06-11-2012, 04:16 PM
Where's the panda?

ShadowBun
06-11-2012, 04:32 PM
I went today, the finance rates are 2.9/3.9/4.9/5.15 for 2&3/4/5/6 years respectively.
The grad discount is for people about to graduate (I think it was if you're 6 months away) and people who have graduated within the past 4 years. Which I've past :okay:.
The discount is $1000 off and 0.2% rebate on interest.

wonder when the grad discount expires

delSol97
06-11-2012, 04:58 PM
The grad discount is pretty standard and permanent for the last couple of decades..

ShadowBun
06-11-2012, 05:00 PM
oh nice
will be useful when all the fusse about this car dies down

IMASA
06-11-2012, 05:10 PM
so, can anyone tell me the benefit of having both direct injection and port injection on the car? doesn't make so much sense to have so many fuel injectors, unless you're making mega power.

See all those commercials from Shell and Chevron about how great their gas is because it cleans your valves? Not applicable for direct injection cars because the injectors are in the combustion chamber and the fuel doesn't hit the intake valves. DI cars suffer from carbon deposits in their intake valve stems from the egr, oil blow by, etc., just google direct injection intake valves on audi/vw and mazdaspeed 3/6 cars. Port injection used along with direct injection is supposed to clean the intake valves.

KO7
06-11-2012, 05:20 PM
Wish I waited for the BRZ before getting my Civic Si :okay:

Gf didn't approve of an MX-5 cause of the two seats, but she probably would've been okay with the BRZ even though the back seats are useless and there's only 2 doors. I've been debating whether or not to go for a test drive in an FRS / BRZ, but I shouldn't torture myself should I?

68style
06-11-2012, 10:41 PM
^
Letting your GF dictate how many seats your car has = fail

death_blossom
06-11-2012, 11:46 PM
I like the s2k as well but it isn't very DD friendly plus I think the FRS can be driven to the limit is much easily to control and handle. S2K is however the faster car and I like the stick in it a tad more. Both are great cars tho.s2k is very easy to control at its limits. the car communicates very well to the driver when road adhesion is being lost. oversteer characteristics are also very gradual and easy to recover, assuming you aren't driving the car like a retard.

FRStan
06-12-2012, 12:06 AM
Anyone buying soon, just found out if you sign up for the Club Openroad card, they have a promotion that gives you 20,000 free points for signing up (free). You can use the points toward your car purchases and ends up being $200. The promotion is ending in three days apparently.

www.clubopenroad.ca

Gtrr33
06-12-2012, 01:06 AM
Wish I waited for the BRZ before getting my Civic Si :okay:

Gf didn't approve of an MX-5 cause of the two seats, but she probably would've been okay with the BRZ even though the back seats are useless and there's only 2 doors. I've been debating whether or not to go for a test drive in an FRS / BRZ, but I shouldn't torture myself should I?

so i guess we know who straps the belt.
GF:seriously: YOU:okay: ME:yuno:go for test ride

Mr.Jay
06-12-2012, 10:17 AM
s2k is very easy to control at its limits. the car communicates very well to the driver when road adhesion is being lost. oversteer characteristics are also very gradual and easy to recover, assuming you aren't driving the car like a retard.

I agree with you but still doesn't change the fact that from my exp with both cars I still think the FRS is easier to handle at its limit.

If money is a issue and lack of space isn't get a s2k its a great car for the price and a lot of car for the money

However I still think the S2K (AP1 at least) requires more skill to drive as you really have to be smooth with your inputs as well as the agressiveness of the vtec kick can suprise people were the FRS is pretty linear in power delivery.

The S2K is a great car tho with the best 6MT I have used. Either way its all just my opinion anyways.

VCMC-STC
06-12-2012, 01:05 PM
Hey Guys!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTeLD6nP_LA&hd=1

Check out Home/Accueil | Scion Tuner Challenge (http://www.tunerchallenge.ca)

The 2012 Scion Tuner Challenge FR-S Edition was released today!

I'll be posting more info soon!

Richard Basford

flagella
06-12-2012, 09:52 PM
Friend took delivery of his FRS today.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7229/7182574135_c7f9b912da_h.jpg

My S behind, which is on sale right now.

Ikkaku
06-12-2012, 11:40 PM
awwww shiiiiiiiiii

about time for him!

tofu1413
06-12-2012, 11:45 PM
ahhhh.. so the S2000 with the mustache is yours...........

now to put it on the FR-S. :troll:

cococly
06-13-2012, 12:34 AM
Friend took delivery of his FRS today.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7229/7182574135_c7f9b912da_h.jpg

My S behind, which is on sale right now.

Saw his car on Knight Street Bridge around Midnight.

It looked like an Integra when it was in my mirrors, then :woot2:

RabidRat
06-13-2012, 10:45 AM
^ yeah that was him, though it was actually me driving at that time haha.

CD originally burned in August 2004 when I first bought my 1986 MR2, now passed on to its rightful owner:
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/ryteng/InitialDFanboiEdition.jpg

Tofu? Check.
Cup of water half full, sealed by Bubble World as "training wheels"? Check.
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/ryteng/TofuAndWaterCup.jpg

This car is fuckin awesome, I think it's time to sell my s2k for one.

Moar pics later ;)

Energy
06-13-2012, 11:19 AM
You'd sell your s2k for one? I've been considering the brz as well but I don't really need a new car. It is tempting though...

jACEDesignsLtd
06-13-2012, 11:24 AM
Congrats to all the fr-s owners! I've started a thread here, if the owners want to convene and share their pics! There is the ft86 forums, but its more of a global board.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/669420-toyota-gt86-owners-scion-fr-s.html

RabidRat
06-13-2012, 11:57 AM
You'd sell your s2k for one? I've been considering the brz as well but I don't really need a new car. It is tempting though...

Wait a couple years, you'll start to feel the need for a little more practicality haha.

That said, the other solution is to just buy a 2nd car that does that even better. So right now I'm buying an '08 GTI and keeping my s2k =). But consolidating two cars and a bike into one BRZ has been really tempting especially given how good my buddy's FR-S drove yesterday - I should really write a comparison review, I was really surprised by this thing.

MrGoodbar
06-14-2012, 12:06 AM
Oh shit i saw the same douche bag tonight ripping through the gears, the asshole doesn't know how to drive!! Oh wait i was lookin' in the mirror and saw myself :(

RabidRat
06-14-2012, 12:20 AM
^ shut up, your car sucks!

Took some pics with MrGoodbar today to try and show the relative size of this thing:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/ryteng/1.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/ryteng/2.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/ryteng/4.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/ryteng/8.jpg

The FR-S is about same length as my s2k, maybe an inch longer?

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/ryteng/IMG_20120614_002212.jpg

Looks like the engine in the s2k is mounted further back, but the engine in the FR-S is mounted lower.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn267/ryteng/IMG_20120613_234135.jpg

J-Chow
06-14-2012, 01:07 AM
I'm digging everything else.... except for the stock rims.

MrGoodbar
06-14-2012, 06:07 AM
^ shut up, your car sucks!



Lol i was actually saying that im a douche bag with douche bag white as a car.

too_slow
06-14-2012, 08:38 AM
I'm digging everything else.... except for the stock rims.

I thought they were 'rice' looking in pictures, but they look fantastic in person. Actually I think the whole car looks WAY better than in pictures.

You can't see the details to the roof/wheel-well lines, and how the lines surrounding the front badge is linear with the back.. It's really quite a gorgeous car in person.. /end fanboipost

loong
06-14-2012, 04:12 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7373111274_6332e19d28_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8018/7187878791_607cc3cc73_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5328/7187878299_8d4df42c52_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7187877359_2942fe5153_b.jpg

!Aznboi128
06-14-2012, 04:13 PM
ummmm lowered

CorneringArtist
06-14-2012, 05:37 PM
RabidRat, the water in the cup isn't close enough to the brim for true tofu race car :troll:. Ive yet to see it, but people at my dealership are saying the FRS in orange looks pretty good.

Mr.Jay
06-14-2012, 06:04 PM
The Hot Lava does look really good much better than I thought it would there is one sitting on the lot in Richmond


Deff think red tails are the way to go

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/Stryfe_Shinto/20120614_075739.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/Stryfe_Shinto/20120614_075758.jpg

FRStan
06-14-2012, 06:12 PM
Mr. Jay that tail light looks good!

I came across photos of this, do you think they tinted the outer border red or its a remanufactured light?

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/storage/364714/plus/6fca87aa9c.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/storage/364714/plus/7ffe2f8ba6.jpg

Mr.Jay
06-14-2012, 06:46 PM
That's a remanufactured light by Grazio in Japan. They got tinted cleats and badges and all sorts of frs/brz dress up stuff.

Check out the ft86club forums if you want them

Super expensive stuff

muteki
06-14-2012, 07:30 PM
Scion FR-S Test Drive Event - Eventbrite (http://frstestdrive.eventbrite.com/)
https://evbdn.eventbrite.com/s3-s3/eventlogos/11657561/scionfrstestdrivefacebookimage-1.jpg

Anyone doing this?

StylinRed
06-14-2012, 07:42 PM
vinyl ur tails cheaper option?

i remember a guy on newcelica.org that did amazing stuff with vinyl

blue batmobile i think his name was

ended up making a store and sold stuff for all sorts of vehicles maybe he's still doing it



edit
here's his site www.BLUEBATOVERLAYS.com
and his email bluebatmobile@san.rr.com

he doesn't have the FRS or BRZ listed in his gallery but based on all the cars he's got overlays for i wouldnt be surprised if he'll be adding that soon

1exotic
06-14-2012, 07:45 PM
Got to play around with the FR-S today, was not as impressed as they were hyped up to be. Pretty gutless but still handles pretty nice.
Still can't complain since it doesn't cost that much for a new car. Interested to see what kind of performance upgrades people do on these cars in the next little while.

mb_
06-14-2012, 08:05 PM
Just signed up for that FR-S test drive. I chose the 5:00-6:00pm option - that means I can show up anytime between 5 and 6 right?

Araaadi
06-14-2012, 08:08 PM
Just signed up for that FR-S test drive. I chose the 5:00-6:00pm option - that means I can show up anytime between 5 and 6 right?

I believe so, that's when I signed up for too. See you there.

smaggs
06-14-2012, 08:34 PM
Cool, saw this earlier but forgot about it. Signed up for the first session, 9:30-10.

optiblue
06-14-2012, 08:59 PM
Thanks for this. Signed up for the first time slot as well!

EvoFire
06-15-2012, 02:08 AM
Thanks for the tip, signed up for 10-11am.

Mr.Jay
06-15-2012, 01:43 PM
For those doubting the autos abilities

Moto-P ,club 4ag founder and who Toyota consulted when they started tinkering with the idea of a 86 spiritual comeback.

His FRS is running the 5axis spoiler, SSR wheels, RSR coilovers and all sorts of other goodies

Club4AG's Scion FRS, Paddle Shift AT, Drift Testing - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o3YivnuSLAI)

StylinRed
06-16-2012, 03:40 AM
vinyl ur tails cheaper option?

i remember a guy on newcelica.org that did amazing stuff with vinyl

blue batmobile i think his name was

ended up making a store and sold stuff for all sorts of vehicles maybe he's still doing it



edit
here's his site Pictures by BlueBatmobile2005 - Photobucket (http://www.BLUEBATOVERLAYS.com)
and his email bluebatmobile@san.rr.com

he doesn't have the FRS or BRZ listed in his gallery but based on all the cars he's got overlays for i wouldnt be surprised if he'll be adding that soon


Just got an email from him he actually does have BRZ/FRS items he just hasn't updated his site yet

registrar
06-18-2012, 08:39 PM
Subaru BRZ Sti !!

Check this out:

Subaru BRZ STi Concept in-depth tour! First time in The Netherlands! - YouTube
:moderatorban:

HondaGuy
06-18-2012, 09:00 PM
Subaru BRZ Sti !!

Check this out:

Subaru BRZ STi Concept in-depth tour! First time in The Netherlands! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3__FHyDxS0&feature=g-vrec)
:moderatorban:



http://chakru.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/shut-up-money.jpg

RE-Jo
06-18-2012, 09:27 PM
Wow... I wish they make that STi version! That taillight totally fixes one of the small things I don't like about the BRZ/FR-S

EndLeSS8
06-19-2012, 02:08 PM
Wrecked FR-S Crash Already - Not Mine - Page 3 - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=260746#post260746)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8589&stc=1&d=1339807882

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8590&stc=1&d=1339807882

" Hey everyone.

I'm the idiot that crashed the FR-S. Not really sure where to begin, so I'll start with how it happened.

I was on my way to lunch with a coworker. There's a right turn I've taken a million times over the past 4 years that's very wide and has huge visibility, and I would sometimes get on the gas a little in my B16-swapped CRX through the turn. I never went over the speed limit, and I only did it if there was absolutely no one else around. Being a FWD, the front tires would break free a little and it would make the turn a bit more fun. Well, before leaving work I decided it would be a good idea to turn off the traction control and try something similar in the FR-S. That was my first mistake. I entered the turn at about 20mph, and halfway through it I got on the gas and I honestly can't remember exactly what happened after that. I remember being extremely surprised and then all of a sudden I was careening for a telephone pole, and then bam. I don't even think I hit the brakes. I must've hit the clutch pedal at some point because the car was still running when I stopped. Both airbags deployed. My passenger said he didn't even touch the airbag, I grazed it a little bit and it felt like I got hit in the face with a soft pillow. I must've been going 15-20mph at the impact. I couldn't believe how much the car just crumpled. I just looked at it and sat on the ground. I can't even describe to you the feeling of seeing it like that. I just wanted to cry.

I'm 24 years old, been driving since 16, and this is my first accident/ticket. I was ticketed for "failure to maintain reasonable control", which honestly was extremely generous given the circumstances. I feel like the world's biggest idiot. I feel like I've shamed myself and done a huge disservice to the community. Sorry just doesn't say enough. I swore I wouldn't be one of those guys everyone was saying would do something stupid and wreck the car and drive up the insurance rates. Now I'm not only that guy, but it seems I'm the _first_ guy. Not exactly the best way to make an impression. I want you guys to know that I truly feel awful about the whole thing. I am truly sorry for letting my fellow FR-S owners down, and through making a complete ass out of myself, I feel I've learned a valuable lesson, albeit a hard one. I know some of you (a lot of you) will hate me, call me an idiot, tell me I shouldn't have even tried anything like that on a public road, etc. And I agree with you 100%. I made a stupid, stupid, irresponsible choice, and now I'm paying for it. I don't think any of you can hate me more than I hate myself.

I hope I can stand as an example of what can happen even at relatively low speeds when you're being stupid. Please for the love of god don't be me. Drive safe, keep traction control on on public roads, and don't try to be Ken Block. Unless you are Ken Block, in which case, keep being awesome. "

k3lv
06-19-2012, 02:15 PM
Love that concept of the BRZ STI!!!!!

BRZ/FRS > any of the 2010 generation RWD coupes ALLL DAY

Traum
06-19-2012, 03:17 PM
Wrecked FR-S Crash Already - Not Mine - Page 3 - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=260746#post260746)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8589&stc=1&d=1339807882

Ugh... that's an unfortunate (RWD) newbie mistake, but all the ingridents are actually very, very typical of that type of mistake:

1) driver is used to driving FF cars
2) FR-S is... well, an FR car
3) traction control is turned off
3) extra throttle is given mid corner
4) the tires aren't meant for maximum grip
5) the car is equipped with an LSD

Add to the fact that the FR-S is factory tuned to be a little on the tail happy side, and I am hardly surprised by the outcome at all. But once again, incidents/accidents like this are precisely the reason why I always encourage people to come try their hands at the autox so that they can learn the behaviour of their cars in a safe and controlled environment.

If/When more of these incidents start happening, I think there is a good chance Toyota/Subaru would start considering the BRZ's tamer suspension components for the FR-S. After all, that's what Honda did with the AP2 when people started realizing the AP1's snap understeering problem, and the change would be much easier for Toyota/Subaru. They might not even announce anything and just chalk it up as the year-to-year running changes/updates.

HondaGuy
06-19-2012, 04:08 PM
Haha... I got the same email from cardomain about that wrecked frs...was gonna post after gym.

So sad to see a white fcuked up frs.

Edit: refreshing to see the owner fess up and admit his failure and stand up to the crowd about disappointing his fellow frs tuners. At least he man'd up and not " keep up next time" or something.

duy-
06-19-2012, 09:05 PM
Add to the fact that the FR-S is factory tuned to be a little on the tail happy side, and I am hardly surprised by the outcome at all. But once again, incidents/accidents like this are precisely the reason why I always encourage people to come try their hands at the autox so that they can learn the behaviour of their cars in a safe and controlled environment.

If/When more of these incidents start happening, I think there is a good chance Toyota/Subaru would start considering the BRZ's tamer suspension components for the FR-S. After all, that's what Honda did with the AP2 when people started realizing the AP1's snap understeering problem, and the change would be much easier for Toyota/Subaru. They might not even announce anything and just chalk it up as the year-to-year running changes/updates.

I'm sure you're right there about toyota going with the tamer suspension. they've been doing that for years really especially with the mr2s. they revise it to make it safer and to "fix" the snap oversteer issues if there are any, then later on, enthusiast will complain about the newer/heavier/less fun fixes and head back to the zenki models.

that being said, surprisingly on the original ae86 they didnt do any drastic changes. only minor things including:
-beefier rear axles
-diagnositic box in the harness
-third brake light
-nicer looking eye lids for hidden lights
-nicer interior

Shafto
06-19-2012, 09:10 PM
cant wait to see a F20C in a FRS. I guess it would upset the low c of g but would be totally badass.

EDIT: Great looking cars by the way guys. I personally like the frs bumper to the brz

J____
06-19-2012, 09:13 PM
holy, that's pretty bad damage for a 20mph crash..

heleu
06-20-2012, 08:46 AM
Ugh... that's an unfortunate (RWD) newbie mistake, but all the ingridents are actually very, very typical of that type of mistake:

1) driver is used to driving FF cars
2) FR-S is... well, an FR car
3) traction control is turned off
3) extra throttle is given mid corner
4) the tires aren't meant for maximum grip
5) the car is equipped with an LSD

Add to the fact that the FR-S is factory tuned to be a little on the tail happy side, and I am hardly surprised by the outcome at all. But once again, incidents/accidents like this are precisely the reason why I always encourage people to come try their hands at the autox so that they can learn the behaviour of their cars in a safe and controlled environment.

If/When more of these incidents start happening, I think there is a good chance Toyota/Subaru would start considering the BRZ's tamer suspension components for the FR-S. After all, that's what Honda did with the AP2 when people started realizing the AP1's snap understeering problem, and the change would be much easier for Toyota/Subaru. They might not even announce anything and just chalk it up as the year-to-year running changes/updates.


I think you meant "snap oversteering problem".

death_blossom
06-20-2012, 09:23 AM
buddy only been driving FWD his whole driving career, and decides to push his FR-S by turning off traction control and guns it. that's definitely asking for disaster to happen.

one thing I noted during his story was that he stomped on the throttle in mid-corner. big no-no on a RWD unless you're confident that you have the traction to support such a big input. he also mentions that when he would take that corner in his old CRX, the car would push out (understeer). another indication that he was taking on this "familiar" corner with too much speed.

adding to what duy- posted on revising the suspension, I wonder if Toyota will add a staggered tire/wheel set up down the line to combat oversteer characteristics. that's another thing Toyota did back in the SW20 days.

VCMC-STC
06-22-2012, 12:15 AM
Team VCMC picked up our FR-S today!! We cant wait to get started! (more about the Scion Tuner Challenge: www.tunerchallenge.ca )

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208853_313844552041170_830378518_n.jpg


http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u392/VCMCstc/facebook_logo1.png (www.facebook.com/VCMCstc)
More pictures from today on our facebook: Team VCMC | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/VCMCstc)

Richard Basford

Energy
06-22-2012, 12:20 AM
Ouch at the accident. I'm sorry for the owner.

UFO
06-22-2012, 09:47 AM
adding to what duy- posted on revising the suspension, I wonder if Toyota will add a staggered tire/wheel set up down the line to combat oversteer characteristics. that's another thing Toyota did back in the SW20 days.

They could just spec grippier rubber than the stock Prius tires.

IMO Toyota worked so hard to make the handling direct and neutral to allow for throttle controlled oversteer, I don't think they will do anything to take it away. There is a safety system already with the TC so if owners choose to deactivate that safety net themselves, why should Toyota have to neuter the whole car? By all accounts the FRS doesn't exhibit extreme oversteer or even snap oversteer like the MR2 did

lilaznviper
06-23-2012, 09:43 AM
Just test drove the FRS on their mini track and the car drives amazing

LanEvoMR
06-23-2012, 09:46 AM
^ did they have manuals to test out, or only automatic?

lilaznviper
06-23-2012, 09:55 AM
Only auto with paddles. Track was short so its pretty useless for manual. Can barely go higher than 2 gear at most

smaggs
06-23-2012, 10:18 AM
Get there early to try and get a second go. 2 laps at a time didn't really allow much but I sweet talked a second go in and got to take tc off and get a little sideways. Got into 2nd briefly on the straight but was in 1st for the test. Good fun. Can wait to try the manual gearbox and ordering one is looking a lot more likely now.

lilaznviper
06-23-2012, 10:53 AM
i went during the 9:30-10 block so everyone that was there got to go 2 times since there wasn't a lot of people.

lilaznviper
06-23-2012, 10:56 AM
http://i.imgur.com/cGzMQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OdJAe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/r3GSd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uhJnq.jpg

muteki
06-23-2012, 11:01 AM
Yay pictures, Lol woke up late so was debating whether to go or not. Maybe I'll drop by and check it out for a bit.

Datsun
06-23-2012, 02:34 PM
Dropped by to check it out even tho I missed the sign up. They still let me drive( just a longer wait) so anyone who is even on the fence of going should def check it out!

Oh yeah and free flashlights

artmotion
06-23-2012, 03:14 PM
Just got back from the event. The girl at the booth told me to go to the wrong lineup :fuuuuu: but I figured that out after waiting in line for about 20 mins or so and a nice guy in the correct line let me go ahead of him. :woot2: So if you're on here, thanks!

The car is beautifully balanced, with very nice and responsive steering. Going into the corners, it feels light and agile. Unfortunately, they didn't bring any manuals to drive but even so, it paints a pretty good picture of how the car would be with a 6spd. I only realized after driving it that I could have shifted into lower gear to wring a bit more out of it but I still had fun with it. Just can't wait to try the 6spd!

hirevtuner
06-23-2012, 04:04 PM
test drove one around the block at the scion dealership, the handling, steering, braking and throttle response was excellent, only downfall is there is only one trim level on the scion model and it doesn't have sunroof and very compact trunk space, it is a true 2 seater even though it does have 2 buckets seats and 2 back seats for little kids or grocery bags

would consider if i lived in downtown or a second car but not as a dd

TRDood
06-23-2012, 04:35 PM
Went at 9:40am with the Blitzgear car. The course is too short to get a good feel for the car. There should be more pictures coming soon. There's a camera guy shooting pictures at the end of the straight away, he got balls to stand there since everyone (including me) was flooring it off the line and heading towards him.

Very nice car at its price range.

muteki
06-23-2012, 04:39 PM
We were going "too fast"... how boring. :( Wasn't the point of this to rip it and test it out on a track?

CorneringArtist
06-23-2012, 04:45 PM
Unfortunately, one FR-S is in our dealership for a nasty oil leak. Transmission had to come out to get a closer look as it was towards the back of the motor. Seems that there was somewhat poor bonding of a plate in the block, and now one section of the exhaust is being replaced because the cat was damaged.

TRDood
06-23-2012, 04:51 PM
We were going "too fast"... how boring. :( Wasn't the point of this to rip it and test it out on a track?

Compliants from the staff...?

The VW last year had no limits, drive as hard as you wish, and as many times as you wish. :fullofwin:

muteki
06-23-2012, 04:54 PM
Lol. There was a lot of screeching when we were messing around with it, other people were doing like 20-40km around the tiny track area. =/ Wanna do it again hahaha, cause I would never do it with my own. :3

optiblue
06-23-2012, 06:07 PM
Well, some of you who know me, will know that I've driven quite the handful of midrange sports cars and I know what I like and don't like in a car. I arrived at 9:20 and was the second person to test drive this car. I was pretty choked that they were all automatic, but for such a tight course, it would have been only 2 gears anyways. I did a total of 3 runs and the first run was in normal all traction control on, second run sport mode traction control one off, and the third run in off off. I won't lie, acceleration leaves something to be desired, but as soon as you hit that first corner, you forget all about it and this is an awesome very balanced fun car. I loved the feel and feed back of the steering wheel, I could argue that it even feels better than my Evo! No lap times were recorded, but it felt quickest when the TC was turned fully off. This car rotates quite well and you can feel when the car was about to slide which was very nice! My only real complaint for anyone considering this car is the rear seats. I'm 5'7", and I felt I was siting pretty forward in bucket seat mode and after the run, I noticed that there's literally 3" or less for leg space in the back. If you need to drive passengers that have legs, make sure you can live with the back seats!!!

Got a Free Scion LED FLASHLIGHT :fuckyea:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Optiblue/Car%20Stuff/f709c235.jpg

Paradise240
06-23-2012, 06:27 PM
Got there around 5:30, just when it started to rain and they didn't allow me, or _mb to do a test drive. :okay:

Datsun
06-23-2012, 06:35 PM
We were going "too fast"... how boring. :( Wasn't the point of this to rip it and test it out on a track?

Were you in the decal'd one? I drove that on my first run and did it very slowly because I was still getting used to the car. Heard from others afterwards and some people were saying he doesnt like the test drivers taking it too fast.

Going for seconds I ended up driving 2 diff. female reps and gave the cars hell, and they were laughing.

I also grabbed the purple flashlight, damn thing was so bright I'm still seeing spots 15 mins later.

muteki
06-23-2012, 07:37 PM
Naw, didn't get that one. Tried the white one.

KO7
06-23-2012, 09:04 PM
First run was with traction control on, and taking it easy cause I wanted to get a feel for the layout. Second run was with Sport Mode on and the rep said "one lap, make it count. I haven't driven it yet, so show me what it can do." I chirped the tires through all the corners and it was a blast.

Might be putting money down tomorrow to get on the waitlist, and am deciding between 6MT or 6AT, and WRB or SWP colours. Driving my manual car from Vancouver to Steveston 5 days a week in heavy traffic kind of wears on me, but obviously a part of me thinks it's a bit of a waste not to get one of these with stickshift. SWP is classier than blue, but the salesguy said by far the majority of the orders are for white.

VCMC-STC
06-23-2012, 09:09 PM
Made a video about picking up our FR-S!!

Team VCMC Scion Tuner Challenge! - YouTube

rich

Over9K
06-23-2012, 09:21 PM
Just came back from driving one, man does it dive into corners. Seats are great and braking is pretty good for an el cheapo car. Another thing I love is how low you sit, the pedals are right in front of you, legs are straight.

Handles good as my SW20 with TRD's and Koni's (probably the worn bushings).

Also, love the soft touch interior as well.


And the bad:

Do these cars have a drive by wire system or throttle cable? The pedal didn't seem to deliver much vibrations and I also kicked a hole in the floor pan when I touched the clutch.

Car loves corners, but stock wise, it WILL get raped in merging wars and straights. Very very VERYYYY slow.

Interior is lacking for a $25 000+ car....the cheaper Corolla has a much more inviting interior, same with the Camry, but oh well.

Also, TCS button is useless...how can one actually lose control? It's gutless and handles amazing, makes no sense.

Needs a switch to turn ABS on and off.

Paint feels rather cheapish...

One more thing, gearing is pretty short...short as an Asian's cock.

mb_
06-23-2012, 09:46 PM
Got there at 5:30 (had work lol) but started raining so nope, no test drive :alone: :okay: :rukidding:

TRDood
06-23-2012, 10:49 PM
I had Mike with the decal car. He didn't say anything when I slide the car sideways every corner. Just pressed gas and floored it making the U after the straights :D

The interior is much nicer than corolla/matrix. I like it.

Off thr straight it was as slow as my 130hp Matrix :okay:

UFO
06-24-2012, 12:09 AM
Response wasn't great off the line, felt a bit like turbo lag but that may have been the auto tranny although the 1-2 shift felt pretty quick and smooth. Mid range punch was ok. Car was quite easy to drive and difficult to get into trouble with IMO. Second many people's thoughts on the ease of feeling the car's rotation and when its about to lose traction. The suspension felt soft but the car didn't roll as much as I would have expected when tossed side to side

Car definitely looks a lot sharper in person than in pics. I was expecting the roofline to be higher and the wheel gap to be nasty based on pics, but it really wasn't that bad in person. A 1" drop with the wheels spaced out ~15mm would be the perfect OEM look IMO.

Limitless
06-24-2012, 12:52 AM
Got there around 5:30, just when it started to rain and they didn't allow me, or _mb to do a test drive. :okay:

I think I saw you guys, I went right before you guys arrived and was told they were closing up too :(

JoshuaWong
06-24-2012, 04:44 AM
First run was with traction control on, and taking it easy cause I wanted to get a feel for the layout. Second run was with Sport Mode on and the rep said "one lap, make it count. I haven't driven it yet, so show me what it can do." I chirped the tires through all the corners and it was a blast.

Might be putting money down tomorrow to get on the waitlist, and am deciding between 6MT or 6AT, and WRB or SWP colours. Driving my manual car from Vancouver to Steveston 5 days a week in heavy traffic kind of wears on me, but obviously a part of me thinks it's a bit of a waste not to get one of these with stickshift. SWP is classier than blue, but the salesguy said by far the majority of the orders are for white.

The 6AT gearing is tall as f**k but thats about it, you sacrifice a bit of acceleration but you can do a lot of stuff with that AT. 2nd gear is the one that bothers me, kind of like those 91-93 USDM NSX

CorneringArtist
06-24-2012, 09:36 AM
I should mention the diff is geared for 4.10, so for people that play with things like that should understand why the gearing is a bit weird.

JoshiE
06-24-2012, 11:24 AM
Hey guys,

I was the one who put on the OpenRoad Scion FR-S Event yesterday.

Hope you guys enjoyed it.

I know the course was super short, but that was the best we could work with the space provided. Either way, hope you got to experience the car :)

I will be posting video + pics soon on our Facebook Page - OpenRoad Scion (http://www.facebook.com/ORScion)

:)

JoshiE
06-24-2012, 11:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/cGzMQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OdJAe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/r3GSd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uhJnq.jpg

Cool pics man

Hope u enjoyed the event.

The response from this event was great.
I hope to organize a full sized track this year so you can really push the limits of this car
- Keep u all posted!:fullofwin:

KO7
06-24-2012, 09:44 PM
The 6AT gearing is tall as f**k but thats about it, you sacrifice a bit of acceleration but you can do a lot of stuff with that AT. 2nd gear is the one that bothers me, kind of like those 91-93 USDM NSX

Thanks for the info. I can't seem to find an article or review which talks a lot about the 6AT tranny, with facts and/or opinion. Have you come across one?

JoshuaWong
06-24-2012, 09:52 PM
Thanks for the info. I can't seem to find an article or review which talks a lot about the 6AT tranny, with facts and/or opinion. Have you come across one?

Yes, i owned one and so far put 1650km on it. 3rd gear in AT have the torque dip, the MT have it too i believe but i don't know if its as obvious. If you ever driven an IS-F you will feel right at home, (the tranny is the same as the IS-F with 2 less gear) the shifts are fast and precise but a little jerky depending on throttle position.

Downshift are well executed but like the MCT in the C63 sometimes it will not let you go ahead with a downshift it rev near the red line. The IS-F/FR-S shifts feel faster than merc's MCT and bit more direct, but nowhere near bmw's M-DCT

Its a good transmission but I still feel it suits the IS-F more than the FR-S.

hk20000
06-24-2012, 11:17 PM
I went so completely sideways on it at the only sweeper on the course. Did that twice and here's my drifting impression:

Steering is excellent it's a bit heavier than even the Yaris power steering I have on my AE86....but the steering angle is good when you need it and the response is positive.

Only car I have driven in recent years where you feel so at one with it you forgot you are in a car in a real world environment, you are overwhelmed by the G-forces, the feed back from the butt of the rear tires screaming for mercy and the ear-to-ear grin the Open Road staff share with you in the middle of the drift. Suddenly the cheap plastics and lack of power and a clutch pedal didn't matter at all. It's a refreshing change to the increasingly game-like driving dynamics of modern cars.

Can't wait until it gets a tad more powerful in future iterations.

OpenRoadAutoGrp
06-25-2012, 11:04 AM
Pics from the FR-S Test Drive day :)

OpenRoad Scion Facebook FR-S Album (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.386905931366083.89793.108886635834682&type=1)

InvisibleSoul
06-25-2012, 11:16 AM
I got there just after 5pm and was one of the last to drive... and even got two laps in. The wind had seriously picked up right around that time, and the cones were literally being blown away. I didn't know to request to turn TC off, so it kicked in on me several times on my second lap. :okay:

OpenRoadAutoGrp
06-25-2012, 03:31 PM
I got there just after 5pm and was one of the last to drive... and even got two laps in. The wind had seriously picked up right around that time, and the cones were literally being blown away. I didn't know to request to turn TC off, so it kicked in on me several times on my second lap. :okay:

Next time we'll get you in earlier with better weather! :)

OpenRoadAutoGrp
06-26-2012, 02:26 PM
Video Coverage from our FR-S Test Drive day!

(some of you might be in it...maybe)

FR-S Test Drive Event Video Coverage (http://player.vimeo.com/video/44747035)

Video shot by Three Sixty Photography
Vehicle design by Blitzgear
Event Hosted by JoshiE (on RS)

RE-Jo
06-26-2012, 09:46 PM
I was at the test drive, and I didn't know there were 2 hair pins before the finish :| Did you guys changed the course or did everyone just missed that? I was there between 2-3pm.

Handling was really nice. I love how the steering wheel was heavy, and the car stayed flat when cornering. However, couldn't really test the power of the car, since the straightaway was too short.

RE-Jo
06-26-2012, 09:52 PM
Cool pics man

Hope u enjoyed the event.

The response from this event was great.
I hope to organize a full sized track this year so you can really push the limits of this car
- Keep u all posted!:fullofwin:

I would pay to drive this car around a track

AW607
06-27-2012, 01:21 AM
Next time we'll get you in earlier with better weather! :)

When is your next test drive day?

JoshiE
06-27-2012, 02:38 PM
I was at the test drive, and I didn't know there were 2 hair pins before the finish :| Did you guys changed the course or did everyone just missed that? I was there between 2-3pm.

Handling was really nice. I love how the steering wheel was heavy, and the car stayed flat when cornering. However, couldn't really test the power of the car, since the straightaway was too short.

Course was exactly the same throughout the day.

I put those to hairpins in to slow everyone down before pitlane - just to be safe !

Next event we'll have a bigger course :)

JoshiE
06-27-2012, 02:38 PM
I would pay to drive this car around a track

LOL keep you posted!

JoshiE
06-27-2012, 02:39 PM
When is your next test drive day?

I will let you know!

I always announce stuff either exclusively to our Facebook Pages first:

OpenRoad Auto Group | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/OpenRoadAutoGroup)

or

OpenRoad Scion | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/ORScion)

Vancouver_M5
06-28-2012, 09:20 AM
I took this thing for a testdrive ( toyota version ), im a bmw M guy and let me just say.... The ha dking onthis thing is amazing, the ride is super harsh. It feels nice to drive, interior dash is lackIng.. Everything, very cheap materials, you can hear the belts turning in the enin compartment from the driver cabin. Start from 0 is quie nice but after it gets to 6000 rpm it looses a lot o that torque.
Another thig i liked was the transmission, the automatic felt like a dual clutch. Overall nice car but for its price i'd rather a 2 year old mercedes or bmw that can outperform it in every way possible.

Vancouver240sx
06-28-2012, 09:32 AM
but for its price i'd rather a 2 year old mercedes or bmw that can outperform it in every way possible.

Name one 2 year old BMW for $26k that would out perform the FR-S in handling... I'll wait

rich

Tapioca
06-29-2012, 10:26 AM
Name one 2 year old BMW for $26k that would out perform the FR-S in handling... I'll wait

rich

If you want to feel the road, a proper power steering assistance system, be able to pull the tail out, and cheap plastics, an E36 could be had for 4 grand.

Or if you want to drift through any corner, an E30 will do the trick for 2 grand.

This car is a novelty because people have forgotten what it feels like to drive an old-school rear-wheel drive car.

TjAlmeida
06-29-2012, 10:47 AM
He said 2 year old not 20 year old BMW...

Edited for spelling error.

too_slow
06-29-2012, 11:07 AM
I took this thing for a testdrive ( toyota version ), im a bmw M guy and let me just say.... The ha dking onthis thing is amazing, the ride is super harsh. It feels nice to drive, interior dash is lackIng.. Everything, very cheap materials, you can hear the belts turning in the enin compartment from the driver cabin. Start from 0 is quie nice but after it gets to 6000 rpm it looses a lot o that torque.
Another thig i liked was the transmission, the automatic felt like a dual clutch. Overall nice car but for its price i'd rather a 2 year old mercedes or bmw that can outperform it in every way possible.

After reading some of your posts, I've come to the conclusion that you're a bloody idiot/troll. Oh, and I'm a P-car type of guy.. wtf is that even supposed to mean???

A 2 yr old BMW/Mercedes @ FRS's price = a high mileage 323i/C250. No they won't outperform the FRZ.. but enjoy your plastic (leatherette) seats and the extra hard dash (those base models don't come with the squishy materials that you love so much)..

Mr.Jay
06-29-2012, 02:32 PM
If you want to feel the road, a proper power steering assistance system, be able to pull the tail out, and cheap plastics, an E36 could be had for 4 grand.

Or if you want to drift through any corner, an E30 will do the trick for 2 grand.

This car is a novelty because people have forgotten what it feels like to drive an old-school rear-wheel drive car.

The fact that he said 2 year old car and you named cars that are much much older means that this car isnt novelty beacause people have forgotten what it feels like to drive an old-school rear-wheel drive car and more like people haven't been able to buy a old school rwd car since auto makers have forgotten how much fun these cars actually are

note: I am bias as I bought the FRS

muteki
06-29-2012, 02:49 PM
Seems like someone bailed on a red frs at openroad scion and its up for grabs right now.

westopher
06-29-2012, 03:04 PM
If you want to feel the road, a proper power steering assistance system, be able to pull the tail out, and cheap plastics, an E36 could be had for 4 grand.

Or if you want to drift through any corner, an E30 will do the trick for 2 grand.

This car is a novelty because people have forgotten what it feels like to drive an old-school rear-wheel drive car.
any e36 or e30 for those prices is going to be a pile of shit. I haven't seen a well sorted e30 for less than 8k locally, and its still a 20 year old car. Apples to oranges. I could have bought a 1k mk1 rabbit and had a fun manual ff hatchback but instead I spent 24k and bout a mk5 gti. Its not the same thing just because they share a few characteristics.

StylinRed
06-29-2012, 03:13 PM
2010 323/28 xdrive? (Ive got no idea how it handles but they seem to be 26$k)

OpenRoadAutoGrp
06-29-2012, 03:53 PM
Seems like someone bailed on a red frs at openroad scion and its up for grabs right now.

Yup someone cancelled their order on their FR-S. Will probably get scooped up this weekend - so holla if u want it!

Pics here:

FR-S 's Available Now | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.389402981116378.90187.108886635834682&type=1)

wstce92
06-29-2012, 04:27 PM
Seems like someone bailed on a red frs at openroad scion and its up for grabs right now.

so sad it's auto :(
or I would've pulled the trigger :p

BEEB
06-29-2012, 07:00 PM
Yup someone cancelled their order on their FR-S. Will probably get scooped up this weekend - so holla if u want it!

Pics here:

FR-S 's Available Now | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.389402981116378.90187.108886635834682&type=1)

Sell that bloody thing, so I won't give in and buy it ! I need my money in the bank to pay for the STI version!

Not really racist!
06-29-2012, 07:06 PM
red and auto?

:heckno:

Derek128
06-29-2012, 11:20 PM
VCMC FR-S Event - YouTube

VCMC Scion FR-S Launch Event Video with Scion Canada
The very first test drive with R Compound Tires (some call it slicks tire) in North America

There are
Work Wheel Emotion XC8
Wedssport Wheel TC105
with Kumho V710 R Compound Tires

KayC
06-30-2012, 02:21 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nw_REpfDwbU/T8RqaNgyqLI/AAAAAAAAJBw/sSO8PytkV3g/s950/Work+wheels+toyota+86.jpg

http://www.workwheelsusa.com/media/gallery/10/898_full.jpg

Stealthy
07-04-2012, 08:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/49502.jpg

Two FRSs coming in for delivery. Looked real nice :fullofwin: There's a white pearl one as well in front of it.

Edit:corrected, didn't get a good look while I was driving

Groot
07-04-2012, 08:58 PM
That's an FR-S isn't it? FR-S badging is on the bottom beside the plate area and BRZ badging is on the top right corner

KO7
07-04-2012, 09:29 PM
Epic GT86 vid, gorgeously shot.

Epic Scion FR-S, Toyota GT86 test drive: racetrack, drift & cross-continental dash - HD - YouTube

OGCStrike
07-04-2012, 10:03 PM
^ every car review the guy makes is amazing. :fullofwin:

KO7
07-05-2012, 09:23 PM
Anyone know of a lower mainland dealership with a manual FRS to test drive? I really am considering the auto for my commute, but want to know what I'd be missing and the 6MT might change my mind.

Gtrr33
07-05-2012, 09:27 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nw_REpfDwbU/T8RqaNgyqLI/AAAAAAAAJBw/sSO8PytkV3g/s950/Work+wheels+toyota+86.jpg

http://www.workwheelsusa.com/media/gallery/10/898_full.jpg

:victory:

smaggs
07-06-2012, 09:06 AM
Anyone know of a lower mainland dealership with a manual FRS to test drive? I really am considering the auto for my commute, but want to know what I'd be missing and the 6MT might change my mind.

I would try Richmond Open-road. From what they were saying at the event the other week, they have a couple for test drives. Let me know if and where you find one to drive, please!

Ikkaku
07-06-2012, 11:06 AM
I walked around OR Toyota/Scion two days ago and I only saw their customized FRS on the lot. Not sure if they would have any demo FRS (especially in manual) available since there is a waitlist/shortage for them.

Not unless they let you take someone else's for a spin :lol

Maybe PM Roach or the other guy (coordinator of the test drive event)?

seekerbeta
07-06-2012, 11:58 AM
would anyone recommend the BRZ over the FRS? i know they are the same basic car, but is brand loyalty worth anything? im kinda partial to the Subaru name over Scion, which would you guys go with?

sonick
07-06-2012, 11:59 AM
Subaru for resale value, and the little extras like nav, etc.

muteki
07-06-2012, 12:51 PM
2k is a very small price for the amount of extras/upgrades you get. But if you want it now, then the FR-S is much easier to get, whereas you're looking at late fall to next year for a BRZ.

JoshiE
07-06-2012, 10:24 PM
Anyone know of a lower mainland dealership with a manual FRS to test drive? I really am considering the auto for my commute, but want to know what I'd be missing and the 6MT might change my mind.

Holla at me!
I could set something up for u at OpenRoad

Im the guy who ran that frs event

JoshiE
07-06-2012, 10:25 PM
I walked around OR Toyota/Scion two days ago and I only saw their customized FRS on the lot. Not sure if they would have any demo FRS (especially in manual) available since there is a waitlist/shortage for them.

Not unless they let you take someone else's for a spin :lol

Maybe PM Roach or the other guy (coordinator of the test drive event)?

That would be me lol!
:woot2:

muteki
07-09-2012, 01:03 PM
Silver AT FR-S available at Regency Scion, if people want one right now. :)

godwin
07-09-2012, 03:27 PM
Basically the Subaru has more features like HID etc... hence it is more expensive. I will pick the Subbie over the FRS just for that.

would anyone recommend the BRZ over the FRS? i know they are the same basic car, but is brand loyalty worth anything? im kinda partial to the Subaru name over Scion, which would you guys go with?

Euro7r
07-09-2012, 07:40 PM
Anyone know if BRZ are in stock or is there a waitlist? I've seen only a few FRS, haven't seen a BRZ yet. Looking to getting one.

Bender Unit
07-09-2012, 07:49 PM
Anyone know if BRZ are in stock or is there a waitlist? I've seen only a few FRS, haven't seen a BRZ yet. Looking to getting one.
As I heard, BRZ waitlist is over 1 year at the moment :okay:

muteki
07-09-2012, 08:19 PM
Anyone know if BRZ are in stock or is there a waitlist? I've seen only a few FRS, haven't seen a BRZ yet. Looking to getting one.

Think this was asked in one of the FRS threads already. All accounted for the year, possibly Kelowna, but most people in Vancouver already tried that. You're looking at late this year or early next year, maybe even longer if local.

godwin
07-10-2012, 03:43 PM
BRZ is offering incentives in the States.. Peanuts but nevertheless interesting.

Subaru BRZ gets early sales incentives as cheaper Scion FRS outsells it (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/weblogsinc/autoblog/~3/dF79gNAnNEQ/)

KO7
07-13-2012, 10:10 PM
Is Richmond Subaru selling BRZs above MSRP? 2013 BRAND NEW Subaru BRZ Sport-Tech, 6 Speed Manual Transmission (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/ctd/3138240054.html)

Way to sell to the highest bidder instead of the next one in line on their waiting list...


Edit:
Nevermind, I see they added a bunch of dealer installed options to it.

geeknerd
07-29-2012, 06:42 PM
so whats the current waitlist for a FRS, if there is any?

Sky_High
07-29-2012, 08:47 PM
so whats the current waitlist for a FRS, if there is any?

If you ordered a few weeks ago, the expect delivery would have been September.

But as of now, there's a national shortage, even dealership/National can't answer when it would be delivered. Probably 2013+

smaggs
07-29-2012, 09:06 PM
Langley Scion has no waitlist so just a matter of waiting on delivery. They also have an one with the 5axis kit there on display. Can't remember details of it or if it was sold and phone was dead so no pics....i fail'd good. The kit looked good though!

Euro7r
07-29-2012, 09:17 PM
The BRZ is very limited as discussed previously. I went to Specialty Subaru and they told me earliest if lucky is sometime after February 2013 they might receive more. I put a $500 refundable deposit down, but crossing fingers at the moment. I don't mind the wait as long as I receive one =D.

Mr.Jay
08-03-2012, 02:52 PM
The BRZ is very limited as discussed previously. I went to Specialty Subaru and they told me earliest if lucky is sometime after February 2013 they might receive more. I put a $500 refundable deposit down, but crossing fingers at the moment. I don't mind the wait as long as I receive one =D.

If you are looking for a WRB I know someone selling their pre-order spot. They are no 1 in line for a WRB at Richmond Subaru.

BTW there is going to be a FRS/BRZ/AE86 meet on Monday (haha 8-6 day) at Bryne/Marine at around 7pm

Mining
08-03-2012, 03:39 PM
If you are looking for a WRB I know someone selling their pre-order spot. They are no 1 in line for a WRB at Richmond Subaru.

BTW there is going to be a FRS/BRZ/AE86 meet on Monday (haha 8-6 day) at Bryne/Marine at around 7pm

Where at Bryne and Marine exactly? I don't own one but would like to drop by check them out :)

Mr.Jay
08-03-2012, 04:36 PM
the market crossing or whatever its called prob right by the Tim Hortons there.

death_blossom
08-03-2012, 06:02 PM
BTW there is going to be a FRS/BRZ/AE86 meet on Monday (haha 8-6 day) at Bryne/Marine at around 7pm

oh snap, thanks for letting me know. I almost never check the meets section on DK. :blush:

Manic!
08-03-2012, 06:49 PM
There is a Hot Lava FRS for sale at Nanaimo Toyota for $28790. If someone wants one right now.

nabs
08-03-2012, 06:52 PM
The guy down the street from me just got the subaru last week. looks sick. unless it was test drive :S

ShadowBun
08-03-2012, 08:28 PM
2879?

HOT HOT

denham
08-04-2012, 12:19 AM
I've spent a few weekends driving a couple of FR-S since the beginning of June, for some marketing stuff I've been doing. Just thought I'd share some thoughts here.

First of all, getting into the car, I'm 6ft 2in, and have loads of space in there. Even have room to wear a helmet for autox/track without needing to slouch down. We had a guy in the car recently who was 6ft 7in and he even fit without too much of a problem. I found the rear seats were useless for people, maybe apart from babies, but they are great for throwing stuff back there.

Getting moving, the engine feels fairly strong but it is a bit lacking in character and doesn't really pull to the limiter all that hard. It's nowhere near as exciting as something like an S2K engine, but that car is in a different price range so it's not really fair to compare. It's got enough grunt to get you where you need to be, and get you nice and sideways in the dry or wet, and I guess that's the main thing :D

The gearbox is nothing too special, but it's not bad at all, and the gear ratios are nice on the 6 speed. The auto with paddle shifts is pretty good, but the gearing is too long, and also the car doesn't really launch in first gear so much as slowly start rolling along.

We spent quite a bit of time on the highway, driving from Vancouver to Edmonton, and the ride is fairly firm but it's really well damped for the street, so the journey was not at all rough. It's nice and quiet at low rpms too.

The best part of it is definitely the handling. It's nice and neutral, I never really experienced any understeer. So easy to get the back end out and hold it there in the dry. In the wet it's like a Nissan 240. You can just hold it at whatever angle you like. I did a full lap of a fairly large roundabout in the wet, often really close to full opposite lock, and the car just sat there so nicely. It's well worth turning off the traction and stability control and getting out there on a rainy day.

It's pretty good on the autox course too, but could definitely use some better tires, and maybe some stiffer suspension too.

Overall a pretty nice car, especially for the money. I would definitely pick one up if I could afford it and was looking for a new car.

smaggs
08-06-2012, 08:56 PM
So much FRS porn today:

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/IMG_0068.jpg

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/IMG_0091.jpg

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/GREY.jpg

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/RAD.jpg

http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/86x_desktop_LAR_4141.jpg




and to finish off right:

http://www.clubjapo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/phpuDkzfYPM.jpg

http://www.clubjapo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/531411_10151158194406303_1679959675_n.jpg

http://www.clubjapo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/php97oVakPM.jpg

http://www.clubjapo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/phphRC3NWPM.jpg

jing
08-06-2012, 10:55 PM
Happy 86 day! Drove by Byrne earlier and bunch of 86 guys on Dorikaze were meeting up. Saw a bunch of FRS's too. 30+ cars

optiblue
08-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Gredy takes home the trophy! Looks like a GT car!

Mr.Jay
08-07-2012, 08:10 AM
that's the rocket bunny kit. suppose to be around 7k your the kit.

big thanks to those who showed up. 86 day was petty successful. 40+ cars.

TjAlmeida
08-07-2012, 08:16 AM
oh lord those widebody scions... So sexy

radioman
08-07-2012, 10:06 AM
Those fenders on the greddy frs... so fucking sick. Thanks for the pics.

Ikkaku
08-07-2012, 12:08 PM
the vertex kit :fullofwin: