[cctw]

mm need some advice here...got a 2 year old dual core 3 series processor 2.5 ghz..

just bought a 500w psu and looking for a decent graphics card about $100 that will run most games on medium settings..

just looking to get by for a year or 2 before i do a complete build...

any recommendations?

[SkinnyPupp]

I sold my 460 Ti for about that much.

[nsmb]

AMD Not Competing with Intel Anymore, Goes Mobile - Softpedia (http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Not-Competing-With-Intel-Anymore-Goes-Mobile-237103.shtml)

[roastpuff]

AMD Not Competing with Intel Anymore, Goes Mobile - Softpedia (http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Not-Competing-With-Intel-Anymore-Goes-Mobile-237103.shtml)

Trading one giant rival for two - ARM/nVidia. The mobile chip market is fairly crowded already with those two and Qualcomm.
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[twitchyzero]

AMD Not Competing with Intel Anymore, Goes Mobile - Softpedia (http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Not-Competing-With-Intel-Anymore-Goes-Mobile-237103.shtml)

:noob:

maybe they should just put some more money into making better graphics driver

this might be good news for us...less competition = smaller advancements = longer shelf life of our hardware = less upgrades = save $$:alonehappy:

[Datsun]

AMD HD7K SOUTHERN ISLANDS spec's are out:

More AMD HD7900 GCN (Southern Island) Details Leaked: Frequencies, Prices and Release dates (http://wccftech.com/amd-hd7900-gcn-southern-island-details-leaked-frequencies-prices-release-dates/)

Recent announcements and presentations from AMD suggest that the much anticipated 28nm Radeon HD7900 Series Graphic Cards will be launching in Q1 2012 (Jaunuary 2012). Other than the release dates, Technical specs which include frequencies and Next Gen GNC Core Architecture details have also been leaked.

According to a post by NordicHarware which detailed that the launch of AMD’s HD7000 Series is expected on 5th December 2011 however that was revealed to be a Press Conference in London of the cards rather than a launch exhibition as later unveiled by Fudzilla. Following are the specs of the HD7900 Series Graphic Cards:

GCN HD7970 (XT Tahiti):

The HD7970 is based on the 28nm Tahiti XT core and would be the fastest single chip GPU of the 7000 Series. It features a massive 2048 Cores (Shader Processors) or 32 CU (Compute Units),128 texture units and the core frequency is maintained at 1Ghz. One bad news is that AMD has ruled out the use of Rambus XDR2 memory and is reusing the 1.37 GHz GDDR5 quad data rate, ie at 5.5 GHz of bits used by these GDDR5 384-bit will result in 3 GB of RAM.

This means that the HD7970 would feature a record memory bandwidth of 264 GB / s against 174GB / s of HD6970. Pricing of the card would be set at $449 US.

GCN HD7950 (Pro Tahiti):

Just like its elder brother, The HD7950 would be based on the Pro version of the Tahiti Core which features 1920 cores (30 UCs), 120 texture units while the core frequency is maintained at 900Mhz. The GPU would feature a 3GB memory running at 5Ghz along a 384-bit wide memory interface. Memory bandwidth is rated at 240GB / s. Pricing of the HD7950 is expected around $349 US.

Both 7900 Series based HD7970 and HD7950 would be launched at the CES 2012 Event in Las Vegas, From 10 to 13 January.

GCN HD7990 (New Zealand):

Last up would be the flagship dual core monstrosity HD7990 codenamed New Zealand. The HD7990 would feature Dual HD7970/HD7950 Cores. The Core clock would be set around 900Mhz as rumored by BSN and the memory capacity would be set at 6GB (3GB x 2).

Pricing of the card would be similar to the HD6990 at $699 which is outstanding considering the performance leap the southern island GPU’s have to feature. Expect the launch of this dual core beast in March 2012.

While AMD is all focused in launching their HD7000 Series as early as possible, The Green Team at Nvidia is also preparing its Kepler Series graphic cards which are set to feature twice the performance increase then Fermi. Check em out here.

[twitchyzero]

where did he get his price figures from? :suspicious:
$450 is steep compared to the 6970, no?
but i guess since they'll likely have the market domination for 6 months with a brand new architecture they could probably justify this price?

[hypercube]

Getting new comp after 4 years, did some research and heres the parts i came up with

Antec Earthwatts 750W Modular Power Supply ATX12V V2.2 EPS12V Active PFC 80PLUS 135mm Fan (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62330)

Western Digital 640GB Caviar Green SATA2 3GB/S 64MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Disk Drive HDD (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65558)

Powercolor Radeon HD 6950 800MHZ 2GB 5.0GHZ DDR5 2XDVI HDMI 2x Mini DP Dual Fan PCI-E Video Card (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60103)

Coolit Systems Eco CPU Water Cooling System AUTO-REGULATED & Maintenance Free LGA1366/1156/1155/AM3 (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=50327)

Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL9 Dual Channel Memory Kit (http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=49600)

Fractal Design Define R3 Black ATX Mid Tower Silent Computer Case 2X5.25 8X3.5INT USB *IR-$5* (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53537)

Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962)

Gigabyte Z68P-DS3 ATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI CrossFireX SATA3 HDMI Mo *IR-$5* (http://www3.ncix.ca/products/index.php?sku=62697&vpn=GA-Z68P-DS3&manufacture=Gigabyte)


Total is $1065 before taxes. Thoughts? I will be gaming at 1680 x 1050 resolution, so is that video card unnecessary? Want to try some of the newer games like metro 2033.
Any thoughts on the mobo? Its cheap but it has everything I need

[SkinnyPupp]

That video card is way way way way overkill for 1680. You probably don't need to spend more than $120 or so at that res.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59445&vpn=GV-N550OC-1GI&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1311

[hypercube]

That video card is way way way way overkill for 1680. You probably don't need to spend more than $120 or so at that res.

NCIX.com - Buy Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti 970MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E Video Card - Gigabyte - GV-N550OC-1GI - in Canada (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59445&vpn=GV-N550OC-1GI&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1311)

will it run new games on max settings?

[SkinnyPupp]

Actually I'd recommend this instead. By default I'd recommend Nvidia first, but at this price range you'll get more from a 6850 I think.

NCIX.com - Buy XFX Radeon HD 6850 Fansink 775MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Display Port HDMI PCI-E Video Card - XFX - HD685XZCFC - in Canada (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63985&vpn=HD685XZCFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1311)

[twitchyzero]

metro 2033 is a graphics intensive game..it's pretty much the new crysis. it requires 580 SLI to max out the video settings IIRC

[roastpuff]

I'd still go for a 6950 1GB... Metro 2033 is a b*tch to run with everything turned on. Otherwise the system looks good - except for the hard drive.

You don't want to be running an OS drive using a WD GREEN. They are way too slow. You will regret it.

My advice is spring for a SSD OS drive - good prices for them - and then pick up a hard drive later when you have more options as the shortages ease.

Wait until Boxing Day if you can. Stuff will be cheaper then.

[SkinnyPupp]

That power supply is also overkill. Get this instead

NCIX.com - Buy Antec Earthwatts Green Series 380W ATX12V 80PLUS Bronze *No Pwr Cord* - ANTEC - EA380D GREEN - in Canada (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59331&vpn=EA380D%20GREEN&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1305)

Switch your ram to this

http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=57869&vpn=KHX1600C9D3K2%2F8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1311

Take that money you saved, and get this motherboard instead. Since you will be overclocking, you will want more than 4 phase VRM to the CPU

http://www3.ncix.ca/products/?sku=61002&vpn=GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3&manufacture=Gigabyte

And yes, don't get a Green, get a 500GB black. You will lose 100GB or whatever, but it will be much faster

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65758&vpn=WD5002AALX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD

[hypercube]

ok, Im thinking 6870 for metro 2033,
http://techgage.com/reviews/amd/radeon/hd_6800_series/metro_2033_1680x1050.png
50fps on those settings is good enough I guess

and use the money to get a wd black and that ram you suggested
If I try Crossfire later will I need a higher power supply, b/c thats why I went with that mobo and 750W supply (its on sale too)

[StylinRed]

and use the money to get a wd black and that ram you suggested
If I try Crossfire later will I need a higher power supply, b/c thats why I went with that mobo and 750W supply (its on sale too)

if u're going for a WD Black

may as well get a momentus XT (hdd/ssd hybrid) no? dont depend on what im saying im clueless :D

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36731 (edited much cheaper on memoryexpress)

the 500gb xt was faster than the black and this new 750gb is supposed to be better than the 500 as the ssd portion is larger

[Jmac]

ok, Im thinking 6870 for metro 2033,
http://techgage.com/reviews/amd/radeon/hd_6800_series/metro_2033_1680x1050.png
50fps on those settings is good enough I guess

and use the money to get a wd black and that ram you suggested
If I try Crossfire later will I need a higher power supply, b/c thats why I went with that mobo and 750W supply (its on sale too) That's @ 0x AA, though. Personally, I'd go w/ something w/ a little more juice that will be sufficient to at least 4x AA.

50 FPS minimum is fantastic.

[exdee]

What do you guys use your SSDs for? I'm thinking of getting one for the OS and all but other than that is it worth it if all im going to use it for is that? I usually only play single player games that require high end specs never multi (until i can get dota 2 -__-) so I most likely won't be installing any games on it and other than that I mainly use my computer for music production and recording. Any thoughts?

[LuHua]

It'd decrease the OS loading time, program load times, file access, and that's probably about it. The storage space is at a premium, so you likely wouldn't be storing any large number of files on it anyway. If you put your single player games on it, they'd load fast as hell; it's actually more useless for multi player actually, you'll finish loading but the others still take forever lol. If you want to spend the money on it then do so, but it's likely not worth the cost for most people.

I should probably note that there's a few SSD companies that have serious reliability issues right now. Google before you buy.

For hypercube: ditch the eco. Just get something like a Hyper 212+ if it'll fit, it'll be just as quiet, cool just as well, and cost you only $20. The self contained water cooling systems like that are nice if your case is small, but they only cool as well as a decent heatsink at a few times the cost.

[roastpuff]

SSD makes everything go faster. I edit photos faster I surf the internet faster I even fap faster.

Intel SSD and Crucial M4 Micron are the two most reliable drive brands on the market at the moment. Sandforce controller has many issues.
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[BlackV62K2]

Looking for a HDD for my build....prices after the WD flood :heckno:. Might just get an SSD and reformat my old 500GB for now.

[Hondaracer]

i have the 128GB crucial M4

load my OS, and all my games on it, ie. Skyrim, BF3, etc.

performance is vastly improved

[PornMaster]

Probably get a faster response here.
But I got new ram for my com, when installing new ram there was no video output.
switched all ram out still nothing.

But when I put old ram back it works fine.
exact same speed just 1.6 vs 1.65 voltage.
size dif is 2gb vs 4gb

ram problem?

I have a m4a77td mobo and using this ram right now
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - G.Skill - F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=30384&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ&manufacture=G.Skill)

this is the one i bought
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57869&vpn=KHX1600C9D3K2%2F8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1311

even the sales guy said it should work

[trancehead]

So I need some feedback too please!

Im building this computer to essentially replace my dying laptop.
I'm going to be hooking it up to 2 monitors I have already. Potentially 3 in the future
I'm primarily going to be using this station for web dev: that includes
-coding (with some IDE or even Dreamweaver for just pure webpages)
-Adobe CS5.5 family products

So this is not a gaming machine! I get way too easily addicted to games, so i've had to lay off installing any on my PC

I went with the A8 because it seemed decent with integrated graphics.
Not completely sold on it though as the processor itself seems weak

I'm also on a fairly tight budget. It's nice that it comes with integrated graphics

AMD A8-3850 $140
ASUS F1A75-V Pro ATX FM1 $110
Antec EarthWatts EA-380D GREEN ATX12V $45
intel 320 gen3 80gb $139.66
Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3K2 8 gig $36.99

D-LINK DWA-556 Xtreme N Desktop Adapter $42.29

TOTAL 513.94

-I have an old Antec Sonata II case lying around. I bought it probably 6-8 years ago...but it should be fine right?
-And as Hard drive prices are ridiculous right now, im going to hold off. I have a 160gb spare seatgate drive lying around also from 6-8 years ago, and a 2TB NAS
-I also have a nvidia 7950 GT KO lying around. Is this something thats worth using in a build? (i could reconfigure it if so)
-And yes...i need a wireless adapter lol. thats one of the cheaper non usb ones i could find. I've never tried a usb WLAN adapter though (they are really cheap though)

sorry for turning this into my life story, but any comments guys?

[Datsun]

Probably get a faster response here.
But I got new ram for my com, when installing new ram there was no video output.
switched all ram out still nothing.

But when I put old ram back it works fine.
exact same speed just 1.6 vs 1.65 voltage.
size dif is 2gb vs 4gb

ram problem?

I have a m4a77td mobo and using this ram right now
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - G.Skill - F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=30384&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ&manufacture=G.Skill)

this is the one i bought
Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 XMP Dual Channel Memory Kit - Kingston - KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57869&vpn=KHX1600C9D3K2%2F8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1311)

even the sales guy said it should work

Try one stick at a time, and run memtest.

[SkinnyPupp]

So I need some feedback too please!

Im building this computer to essentially replace my dying laptop.
I'm going to be hooking it up to 2 monitors I have already. Potentially 3 in the future
I'm primarily going to be using this station for web dev: that includes
-coding (with some IDE or even Dreamweaver for just pure webpages)
-Adobe CS5.5 family products

So this is not a gaming machine! I get way too easily addicted to games, so i've had to lay off installing any on my PC

I went with the A8 because it seemed decent with integrated graphics.
Not completely sold on it though as the processor itself seems weak

I'm also on a fairly tight budget. It's nice that it comes with integrated graphics

AMD A8-3850 $140
ASUS F1A75-V Pro ATX FM1 $110
Antec EarthWatts EA-380D GREEN ATX12V $45
intel 320 gen3 80gb $139.66
Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3K2 8 gig $36.99

D-LINK DWA-556 Xtreme N Desktop Adapter $42.29

TOTAL 513.94

-I have an old Antec Sonata II case lying around. I bought it probably 6-8 years ago...but it should be fine right?
-And as Hard drive prices are ridiculous right now, im going to hold off. I have a 160gb spare seatgate drive lying around also from 6-8 years ago, and a 2TB NAS
-I also have a nvidia 7950 GT KO lying around. Is this something thats worth using in a build? (i could reconfigure it if so)
-And yes...i need a wireless adapter lol. thats one of the cheaper non usb ones i could find. I've never tried a usb WLAN adapter though (they are really cheap though)

sorry for turning this into my life story, but any comments guys?
Good thinking going with the A8. Even though the CPU part is weaker than what you'd get with Intel, it has a decent integrated GPU. Not good for games, but it will certainly help with your Adobe programs

But your NVIDIA card will probably be even faster, so there's really no reason to choose the A8 over an Intel Core i3 if you are going to use a video card.

[zonda_s]

Looking for a HDD for my build....prices after the WD flood :heckno:. Might just get an SSD and reformat my old 500GB for now.

SSDs are hot items on the market now. i got the crucial m4 just like Hondaracer. i was a bit sceptical about taking the plunge, but it was definitely worth it. on sata2 (on my previous desktop), cold boots took probably 30 seconds or so. on sata3 (current desktop), cold boots seemed to be reduced by another 10 seconds at least.

if you're really after storage, try to salvage a hard drive off a friend's older pc or laptop for now and wait until HDD prices stabilize. it's going to take at least 6 months. seagate's more likely to recover faster considering that they seem to have more factories outside of thailand.

[exdee]

nvm dumb question :pokerface:

[q0192837465]

How about hybrid drives? I heard that the SSD has limited read/write cycles so they'll fail sooner than traditional hardrives. Is that true?

[StylinRed]

How about hybrid drives? I heard that the SSD has limited read/write cycles so they'll fail sooner than traditional hardrives. Is that true?

i was looking into ssds slightly before i recently bought one

and it sounds like the limited nature still gives it over a decade of use

[SkinnyPupp]

SSD do have a 'hard limit' unlike mechanical drives. But mechanical drives are mechanical, so almost always die after 5 years or so. An SSD won't simply start 'clicking' on you, it will just stop writing to flash, a little bit at a time. And like Stylin said, it probably won't be for quite a while under normal circumstances.

Also, even when the flash expires, you will ALWAYS be able to read from it. It's only the WRITING that stops working, not the reading. So you won't lose data on a dead SSD. If you want, you can even keep using it as an archive :D

[SkinnyPupp]

I just posted an article some folks might be interested in:

Gigabyte Z68XP-UD4 Review (http://www.hardcoreware.net/gigabyte-z68xp-ud4-motherboard-review/)

[StylinRed]

ah cool i was thinking about getting that board for my own build


ended up grabbing an asus z68 vpro since it was part of a combo deal

[SkinnyPupp]

Let us know how it goes!

Luckily someone offered to trade me their 2700K from that Intel retail deal, so it will be interesting to see how that goes on this board :)

[LuHua]

According to SSD Life Pro: Estimated lifetime is 9 years for a 128GB Crucial M4. Take that with a grain of salt. My Agility 3 on the other hand...failed. Can't be detected, fml.

[roastpuff]

According to SSD Life Pro: Estimated lifetime is 9 years for a 128GB Crucial M4. Take that with a grain of salt. My Agility 3 on the other hand...failed. Can't be detected, fml.

Sandforce FTL. I've been recommending against the SF-series powered SSD's since the first news of trouble came around. Their performance was also mainly concentrated in quick IOPS.

Crucial M4 or Intel SSD's are the way to go for reliability and speed that is just as fast.

[!MiKrofT]

Intel SSD's had an issue too where a crash would render the drive to report 8mb capacity

My first gen sandforce SSD has been working perfectly since I got it last year. Haven't installed my newer one yet but a firmware update fixes any issues that you may have heard of.

[socialenemy69]

http://www1.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/042681/52399.jpg
http://www.vastech.ca/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/165x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/n/5/n53sv_2_2_3.jpg
Asus N53SV-DH71
i7-2670 2.2ghz
4gb ram + 4gb upgrade for only $18
750 GB hd, 15.6" screen.
2 year factory warranty which covers accidental drops, spills, fire, and Surge.
Got it for $950 including ram upgrade. damn sweet laptop. Was tempted to get a Zenbook, but might get one down the road or get the Prime tablet.

[roastpuff]

Did you know the N-series ASUS laptops have 4 RAM slots? It's crazy!

Nice buy dude!

The Zenbook is on my list...

[zonda_s]

ah cool i was thinking about getting that board for my own build


ended up grabbing an asus z68 vpro since it was part of a combo deal

the z68 v pro is a great board. i got it for my most recent build. really easy to connect your case pins as well with the extension thingy for the motherboard headers. one of the great things that asus does even though it's so minor

[socialenemy69]

Did you know the N-series ASUS laptops have 4 RAM slots? It's crazy!

Nice buy dude!

The Zenbook is on my list...
Yes I do know. I found that out when I installed the extra ram. Im super happy with this purchase.

[Hondaracer]

ive got the Z68 Vpro as well, its a pretty decent looking board as well, lucky enough randomly most of the components i bought have the same blue in them so it matches pretty well

also glad i bought the Crucial M4 after reading this page

is there any sort of test you can run to test the write ability of the SSD? or should i even be worried with a couple month old SSD?

[StylinRed]

now im wishing i stuck with my order of the crucial m4 instead of the patriot force gt ;/

[SkinnyPupp]

Sandforce drives aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. If you don't notice problems immediately, you can be 99% sure you won't have the problems people talk about (at least on your current system)

I actually DID have the problems, but they went away with the last firmware.
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[LuHua]

ive got the Z68 Vpro as well, its a pretty decent looking board as well, lucky enough randomly most of the components i bought have the same blue in them so it matches pretty well

also glad i bought the Crucial M4 after reading this page

is there any sort of test you can run to test the write ability of the SSD? or should i even be worried with a couple month old SSD?

Just use a program like HD Tune if you really want to, but just know that the tests do use up a bit of your write cycles so don't run it too much. The M4 doesn't drop in speed by much, it has a TRIM-like feature that's very effective.

[exdee]

sooo i got a Gigabyte P67A-UD5-B3 ATX LGA1155 P67 for $130 before taxes... GOOD DEAL YA?

[Hehe]

If stability is a concern to you, I suggest take a look at Plextor M2P SSDs.

I find it faster than M4 across same period (granted they ran different stuff, so, I can't say it's an identical comparison, but they both run 24/7) and less problem right out of box (4*m4 vs 8*M2P, one M4 had to be RMA'd while all 8 M2P have been flawless since we started using about 2 month ago)

[SkinnyPupp]

The Plextor uses the same controller as the Crucial, but it uses Toggle flash instead of synchronous flash. Performance should be roughly the same, but your anecdotal RMA experience is probably not really relevant.

[hypercube]

Thx for the help brahs, placed my order now that exams are over
I decided to make some changes since most of my stuff really was overkill
Ended up going with AMD 1090T + M5A99X mobo, A70 cooling and 550Ti

Also got a seagate 1tb barracuda... it was the same price as the 500gb wd black. Just hope it works

[bobola]

Planning to pick up an ssd for OS Win 7 and possibly for few games .. ie BF3..
this Christmas

Would 60 gb be enough?
or should I just go big and get 120 so I will have nothing to worry about later on.!!

[!MiKrofT]

Planning to pick up an ssd for OS Win 7 and possibly for few games .. ie BF3..
this Christmas

Would 60 gb be enough?
or should I just go big and get 120 so I will have nothing to worry about later on.!!
Definitely 120GB. 60gb is just enough for my os and apps alone.

[exdee]

okay yeah... i'm really curious about this but why is it that buying a 2 kit of ram cost more than buying 2 single ones of the same kind? :fulloffuck:

[!MiKrofT]

okay yeah... i'm really curious about this but why is it that buying a 2 kit of ram cost more than buying 2 single ones of the same kind? :fulloffuck:
They're tested and guaranteed to work in pairs. That's about it.

[SkinnyPupp]

Also 60 gb is nowhere near as fast. SSDs need a lot of parallel threads to run at full speed. That's why 2 drives using the same controller but different flash can be so different. For the MOST part, larger drives = faster

Sometimes you can get 2 'identical' 120GB drives, with the same controller and same type of flash chip. But one may have flash that only has 1 or 2 die per flash chip, while the other has 4. This was the case with A-Data S511 (http://www.hardcoreware.net/a-data-s511-120gb-review/) in my review.

This was also the case in my review of the OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS (http://www.hardcoreware.net/ocz-vertex-3-max-iops-120gb-review/). The 120GB version I tested has the hot 4 die flash, but with only 8 chips, it wasn't that much faster than the other drives that use 2 die flash, but with 16 chips.

[ynot5o4]

Thinking about getting a new graphics card, but idk if I should wait for the 7 series..

[twitchyzero]

bam!
AMD Southern Island key slides are leaked
it looks like the rumours of it being as fast as 6990 is true after all :joy:
apparently it will be running <300W during load thanks to the new 28nm architecture

it will be officially revealed next Thursday and will ship Janurary 9th when CES 2012 starts.

I will need a new PSU as mine only has 2x 6 pci-e pins :okay:
let's just hope it's under $400!

http://assets.vr-zone.net/14259/69d.jpg

Key Radeon HD 7970 Slides Leaked by VR-Zone.com (http://vr-zone.com/articles/key-radeon-hd-7970-slides-leaked/14259.html)

[!Nhan]

Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 ATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI HDMI SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard - Gigabyte - GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61002&vpn=GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1314)

Thoughts? I know a lot of you guys run the UD4 but I'd like an unbiased opinion on this one. Runs in my price range. Is it really worth it to get the 4 over this? I don't plan on doing any OC'ing.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's very similar to the GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 (http://www.hardcoreware.net/gigabyte-ga-z68a-d3h-b3-motherboard-review/) but slightly better. I say go for it.

[dealt]

Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 ATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI HDMI SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard - Gigabyte - GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61002&vpn=GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1314)

Thoughts? I know a lot of you guys run the UD4 but I'd like an unbiased opinion on this one. Runs in my price range. Is it really worth it to get the 4 over this? I don't plan on doing any OC'ing.

Totally fine. I run this with a 2500k and OC'd to 4.5ghz stable at 1.33v.
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[YouMirin]

http://i.imgur.com/gnuoT.jpg


you mirin' ? yeah you mirin'

[StylinRed]

now thats awesome
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[Not really racist!]

^^ jelly..

assuming its not urs

[StylinRed]

from here Cooler Master Forum &bull; View topic - Scratch Build : L3p D3sk - Small update :P 15-7 (http://forum.coolermaster.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=14742)

[twitchyzero]

nerdgasm :ahwow:

[exdee]

gl to whoever tries to rob his house

[roastpuff]

Since I'm going to move my system into my new case soon, I was wondering if you guys think its worth it for me to spring for a new modular PSU. Currently I am using a PCP&C Silencer 750. It's from 2009(2008?) and it has served me faithfully. Recently noticed more BSOD happening randomly and I'm worried that it is a sign of the PSU failing. Also, wondering about next generation GPU power requirements - will the 28nm process mean that they use less power or not necessarily? What power level do I need to budget for? I'm thinking something around 950-1000 watts.
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[twitchyzero]

i'm also in the market for a new PSU for the 28nm based cards

i am aiming for the 850w range...i'd think 1000w is overkill especiallly since the new cards are gonna be more power efficient...by how much? we'll find out on thursday.

1000w+ is only necessary if you go triple/quad SLI/CF or SLI/CF for dual GPU cards IMO

[roastpuff]

i'm also in the market for a new PSU for the 28nm based cards

i am aiming for the 850w range...i'd think 1000w is overkill especiallly since the new cards are gonna be more power efficient...by how much? we'll find out on thursday.

1000w+ is only necessary if you go triple/quad SLI/CF or SLI/CF for dual GPU cards IMO

Yeah, how efficient the new cards are is going to play a major role in my PSU selection. I also want modular for better cable management... Non-modular is a total pain in the ass.

I really like the look of the Corsair HX/TX-M series, or the XFX Pro line.

OCZ PSU = no-no? There's a really good deal on at NCIX for an older Z-series 1000-watt unit. $139 after rebate.

[twitchyzero]

i only looked at the TX-M and XFX Pro...can't afford seasonic lol
i haven't looked at anitec nor nznt ones
usually semi-modular is good enough for me

i am not familiar with OCZ PSU but $140 doesn't seem that great of a deal for an old model? especially since OCZ is notorious for not honouring MIR's. I am sure OCZ PSU are safe to go with though...since they are so popular on the market.

edit:also haven't looked into the diff btwn TX-M and TX version 2 in terms of efficiency/reliability

[noTirl]

i actually got the ocz-z 1000w psu for 119 after mir and i received my rebate 5? weeks after i sent in the letter :alonehappy:

[roastpuff]

How is the PSU? Good build quality? Noisy or quiet? Reliable?
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[SkinnyPupp]

anything over 500w is overkill for single card systems
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[noTirl]

How is the PSU? Good build quality? Noisy or quiet? Reliable?
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it has been a solid psu so far
dont think i ever heard the fans going crazy yet

[roastpuff]

anything over 500w is overkill for single card systems
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SLI here. So I need a fairly beefy one.

Good to hear that it's a decent PSU.
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[roastpuff]

Doubleposted.

[cctw]

if anyone sees a good deal on a 120gb ssd either intel/crucial m4 please let me know lol

edit: and whats a good bang for buck gaming case nowadays?...id prefer it to have 4 front usb ports if possible..
(and U.S sites are ok as I have a handy Amerifriend XD)

[twitchyzero]

SLI here. So I need a fairly beefy one.

Good to hear that it's a decent PSU.


from reading around it seems like the corsair TX850M or the XFX Pro850 xxx edition are the best bang for the buck..both of which are rebranded seasonic.

corsair is only 80 plus bronze where as the xfx is silver...but it has only 4 SATA connectors if you got tons of ssd/hdd

NZNT also has a rebranded seasonic with very similar specs (HALE82)

corsair can be had right now ~$110 after pricematch at ME
xfx is $120 with $30 MIR at NCIX
NZNT is $130 after PM at NCIX

of course..it makes sense to wait a few days for boxing sale deals..let's hope one of these are included.

[Hondaracer]

if anyone sees a good deal on a 120gb ssd either intel/crucial m4 please let me know lol

edit: and whats a good bang for buck gaming case nowadays?...id prefer it to have 4 front usb ports if possible..
(and U.S sites are ok as I have a handy Amerifriend XD)

I got the fractal m4 I belive it is? From Ncix

I couldn't be happier with it, amazing looking and the build quality is awsome
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[cctw]

from reading around it seems like the corsair TX850M or the XFX Pro850 xxx edition are the best bang for the buck..both of which are rebranded seasonic.

corsair is only 80 plus bronze where as the xfx is silver...but it has only 4 SATA connectors if you got tons of ssd/hdd

NZNT also has a rebranded seasonic with very similar specs (HALE82)

corsair can be had right now ~$110 after pricematch at ME
xfx is $120 with $30 MIR at NCIX
NZNT is $130 after PM at NCIX

of course..it makes sense to wait a few days for boxing sale deals..let's hope one of these are included.

i bought the ocz 850w gold psu when ncix had the one day christmas sale last wednesday...good reviews on newegg..

but i guess if a good deal comes along on boxing day i'll return it

[cctw]

I got the fractal m4 I belive it is? From Ncix

I couldn't be happier with it, amazing looking and the build quality is awsome
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i think its micron m4

yea yea probably gonna get the same..but hoping boxing day deals at either ncix or ME will bring it down to around $1/gb or close to it..

[Hondaracer]

Actually it's R4 fractal r4I think

Either way I think I've got pics on page 1 or 2 of my rig, it was about $120 I think?
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[cctw]

^hmm they don't have it on ncix's site anymore...

$120 is good..the price point i'm looking to pick up one for~

[Hondaracer]

Doh, R3 sorry, heres the link

Fractal Design Define R3 Black ATX Mid Tower Silent Computer Case 2X5.25 8X3.5INT USB3.0 No PS - Fractal Design - FD-CA-DEF-R3-USB3-BL (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63334&vpn=FD%2DCA%2DDEF%2DR3%2DUSB3%2DBL&manufacture=Fractal%20Design)
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[cctw]

Doh, R3 sorry, heres the link

Fractal Design Define R3 Black ATX Mid Tower Silent Computer Case 2X5.25 8X3.5INT USB3.0 No PS - Fractal Design - FD-CA-DEF-R3-USB3-BL (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63334&vpn=FD%2DCA%2DDEF%2DR3%2DUSB3%2DBL&manufacture=Fractal%20Design)
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AHH lol thanks..i thought you were talking about ssd in the beginning hahah

[StylinRed]

I got 2 (one fer the pops) coolermaster haf922 price matched it to memoryexpress

Coolermaster Haf 922 Mid Tower ATX Case Black 5X5.25 5X3.5INT Front Audio USB eSATA No PSU - DirectCanada (http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC5964&vpn=RC-922M-KKN1-GP&manufacture=COOLERMASTER)

Cooler Master HAF 922 Mid Tower Case, Black at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX24755)

you can get it for $93.25 after the pricematch

[twitchyzero]

i bought the ocz 850w gold psu when ncix had the one day christmas sale last wednesday...good reviews on newegg..


how much was that?

[SkinnyPupp]

Doh, R3 sorry, heres the link

Fractal Design Define R3 Black ATX Mid Tower Silent Computer Case 2X5.25 8X3.5INT USB3.0 No PS - Fractal Design - FD-CA-DEF-R3-USB3-BL (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63334&vpn=FD%2DCA%2DDEF%2DR3%2DUSB3%2DBL&manufacture=Fractal%20Design)
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I'm reviewing that case right now actually. It's a decent enough case, but there isn't much room behind the mobo tray to stuff your cables. There's enough if you have a modular PSU. And it's extremely heavy due to the dampening material.

Other than that, I like it.

[Hondaracer]

yea, the dampening material seems to work very well, and its kinda nice they took the extra step to put the dampening material on all the removable panels as well

for what i use it for i'm happy, whenever i get around to getting my new heatsink i'll probably do a better wire tuck

[cctw]

how much was that?

it was $129.99 with a $40 MIR at ncix.

I went to ME to price match it for $116.50 + taxes with $30 mail in rebate instead.

Prices for both stores come out almost the same with ME slightly cheaper and the fact I would rather have a $30 than $40 mail in rebate...

so after MIR comes to about $100 tax in

[Datsun]

HD7970 reviews out now

[StylinRed]

$549 for the 7970

and OC to over 1ghz easily supposedly

Radeon HD 7970 official: 28nm, 2,048 Stream processors, and a $549 price for January 9th | The Verge (http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/22/2651998/radeon-hd-7970-specs-release-date-price)

[twitchyzero]

Nvidia Kepler please dont' release too late...we need price wars

edit: here's the link to the review: http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-28nm-Tahiti-GPU-Review/

[SkinnyPupp]

Here's the review I would recommend reading

AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB Graphics Card Review - Tahiti at 28nm | PC Perspective (http://pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-3GB-Graphics-Card-Review-Tahiti-28nm)

[twitchyzero]

jumped straight to the game benchmarks

average fps for Battlefield 3 & Metro 2033 2560x1600 maxed out is 40.
someone crossfire and eyefinity this and test again :megusta:

[roastpuff]

I want mah Kepler cards. Price wars FTW.

:fullofwin:

On another note: Christmas present from Intel! Thanks Intel!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/roastpuff/2011-12-21223719.jpg

[twitchyzero]

so true

One sad side note: GPU prices are not coming down in this high-end market. When the GTX 580 launched in November of 2010, it's MSRP was...$499. The same price it is selling for today. When the Radeon HD 6970 2GB launched the following month in December 2010, it sold for $369 - only $20 more than the price of that same card today. Had NVIDIA had some competition and reason to drop the price on the GTX 580 before today, then the Radeon HD 7970 3GB would likely have been priced much lower than the $549 MSRP that they are going to asking for in early January. This is a trend we hope we don't see continue.
i'm really surprised that the 580/6970 held its value so well considering the slower economy and that it ain't a new architecture

i guess we should just be glad they aren't charging $700 a piece:okay:

[SkinnyPupp]

High end cards didn't go down because you don't need one to even play the most elaborate games at full quality in 1080p. $200 is more than enough
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[SilveRx]

Hey guys

so i just picked up a i7 cpu from the intel edge program but looking for a suitable motherboard/ram/video card now any suggestion??
mostly for gaming

[SkinnyPupp]

Check the last 2 pages

[twitchyzero]

there's a 7970 review on eyefinity and crossfire.

on BF3 it scales linearly...double the fps on CF compared to a single card

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviewimages/amd-radeon-hd-7970-crossfire/bf3-screen-eyefinity.png

AMD Radeon HD 7970 CrossFire Performance Review - Battlefield 3 (http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1362/pg4/amd-radeon-hd-7970-crossfire-performance-review-battlefield-3.html)

some single card eyefinity benches from tom's hardware

http://media.bestofmicro.com/X/L/320025/original/BF3%20ultra%205760.png
http://media.bestofmicro.com/X/P/320029/original/Crysis2%20Ext%205760.png
http://media.bestofmicro.com/Y/0/320040/original/Metro2033%20Dx11%205760.png
:lol

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-benchmark-tahiti-gcn,3104.html

now just imagine more mature drivers and overclocking on stock cooling/voltage to 1.1-1.2 GHz
what are the chances AMD will make the same mistakes and let the 7950 be bios flash-able to 7970?

[StylinRed]

ncix has the intel 320 160GB ssd for $159.99 on their boxing day sale starting @5pm (includes a free game: RAGE)

$1 a gb

[Hondaracer]

is there any issue or concern in running 2 different SSD's?

also if run in Raid or whatever are the speed increases noticeable or what?

[StylinRed]

ncix has crap for sale

except a 2tb hd for $70 but am not looking for an hd






side note is there any reason not to have 16gb of ram? (memories so cheap)

[Hide625]

ncix has the intel 320 160GB ssd for $159.99 on their boxing day sale starting @5pm (includes a free game: RAGE)

$1 a gb

I just ordered it. Hope MIR goes well.

[twitchyzero]

that ssd is $10 cheaper at Mem Express

[StylinRed]

^^ yeah was just going to say the same but you dont get Rage :/

and you've gotta wait until sunday morning to make the purchase

[Hide625]

that ssd is $10 cheaper at Mem Express

I realize that but you can only order it on boxing day. I work that day so paying $10 extra for knowing purchase is confirmed is better.

[twitchyzero]

Intel's pretty good with MIR ..yeah? $120 is a lot to gamble haha

not sure if i should get the older OCZ Z 1000w for $110 MIR or the new corsair tx850m $90 MIR

i dont need the extra power but it's more efficient (80 Plus Gold)...but probably doesn't have the same quality as the corsair-rebranded seasonic...not to mention OCZ MIR are more PITA

leaning towards the corsair as I have ME credits to burn :alonehappy:

[StylinRed]

corsair uses japanese capacitors right? id go with them

[cctw]

Seasonic X660 Gold ATX 12V 24PIN 660W Active PFC 80PLUS Gold Modular SLI Ready Power Supply - Seasonic Electronics - X-660 Gold (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=65390&vpn=X-660%20Gold&manufacture=Seasonic%20Electronics&promoid=1301)

is this a good deal?
contemplating returning my 850w ocz just because I don't need that much power and its ocz and the $30 MIR..

the seasonic would come out $12 more if i include the MIR

[cctw]

and how is this drive?

ADATA AS510S3-120GM-C 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 SandForce SF-2281 Solid State Disk Drive SSD - AData Technology - AS510S3-120GM-C (http://www.ncix.ca/products/index.php?sku=64080&vpn=AS510S3-120GM-C&manufacture=AData%20Technology&promoid=1301)

[twitchyzero]

HIS Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35404)
wow hot..6870 $100 AR
too bad i'm waiting for the southern island..tempted for sure though.

[roastpuff]

ncix has crap for sale

except a 2tb hd for $70 but am not looking for a


side note is there any reason not to have 16gb of ram? (memories so cheap)


Yeah that hdd is the only really hot thing. No, no reason to not to have 16gb.

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[SkinnyPupp]

Intel's pretty good with MIR ..yeah? $120 is a lot to gamble haha

not sure if i should get the older OCZ Z 1000w for $110 MIR or the new corsair tx850m $90 MIR

i dont need the extra power but it's more efficient (80 Plus Gold)...but probably doesn't have the same quality as the corsair-rebranded seasonic...not to mention OCZ MIR are more PITA

leaning towards the corsair as I have ME credits to burn :alonehappy:
80 Gold is worth way more than a few hundred watts you'll never ever use.

[exdee]

the instore deals are pretty decent at ncix
Intel 320 Series GEN3 80GB 2.5IN SSD SATA2 Solid State Disk Flash Drive Retail W/ Bracket - 49.99
nothing ball busting tho :(

[sam0m0]

HIS Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35404)
wow hot..6870 $100 AR
too bad i'm waiting for the southern island..tempted for sure though.

I was also thinking of getting this... anyone else find any good deals on video cards? i originially wanted a nvidia but for that price i might get this instead..

[twitchyzero]

^i dont know the details about the MIR if it's only limited to one...but since it's pretty much half off and i was in the market for mid to high end card i would totally buy two of those for crossfire.

[!MiKrofT]

It's 1 per customer. Says right on the Memory Express front page beside the buy button as well as in the mail in rebate pdf.

[trancehead]

Intel SSD MIR's are paid out to you in form of AMEX gift cards. i just read their fine print...so a heads up

[twitchyzero]

how was memory express' server last year during BD?
i dont like the idea of everyone already having their items in cart and crazy mass check-out gonna crash the server like mad haha

[unit]

bought the crucial m4 for 199, the samsung monitor for 99, and the radeon 6850 for 104 after MIR. not bad...

[StylinRed]

I realize that but you can only order it on boxing day. I work that day so paying $10 extra for knowing purchase is confirmed is better.

whoa whoa whoa



i just realized the memory express intel SSD is $169 AND it comes with a $70 MIR which makes that HD $99!

[sam0m0]

wtf... radeon sold out at mem express by the time i clicked checkout at 7:04, jeez so fast

[cctw]

^i got to order processing..cc didnt process..fuck memory express

[604nguyen]

anybody actually manage to pick up the 80gb SSD for $49?

i saw the lineup and i was like......:fuckthatshit:

[trancehead]

damn memory express! i missed out on their 20$ kingsstom 8gb ram

but anyways i grabbed the 120gb intel gen3 SSD for 190 - 70$ MIR from NCIX

[exdee]

not sure but the 80GB SSD has a 70$ mir as well if it adds on... but i think the price might be included with the mir not sure

[Datsun]

80GB SSD sold out with 1 person right in front of me. FUUUU

[trancehead]

^ SSD ONLY IMAGINEABLE

[StylinRed]

wtf... radeon sold out at mem express by the time i clicked checkout at 7:04, jeez so fast

i clicked checkout exactly @ 7:00am (right when the counter that blocked the checkout stopped and turned it on)for the 8gb kingston and the 120gb ssd and it still told me it was sold out

:fulloffuck:

[Datsun]

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee40/vpfreemrusername/zrvau.gif

[typ.]

Made a purchase on NCIX on the 25th, day of that online boxing sale. Haven't built a new computer in a long time.. Maybe about 5-6 years so quite out of the game with computers.

Any comments or suggestions on the parts I bought? I did a fair bit of research before purchasing, but just want to know what others think.

Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 ATX LGA1155 Z68
Intel Core i7 2600K
OCZ Z-SERIES 1000W 80+ Gold
Powercolor Radeon HD 6970
Kingston HyperX 120GB SF-2281
Corsair Vengeance 16GB 4X4GB DDR3-1600

Came to ~$1400 with the case.

[Hondaracer]

not sure about the OCZ PSU, from the research i did i pretty much went with a more expensive/lower watt corsair PSU than a higher watt other brand personally

Is it common to hear your hard drive kind of "start up" sometimes when directly accessing the content on that HD? all my OS etc. is installed on my SSD, but say I open explorer and explore the 1TB caviar black which is just storage, if its quiet in my room i can hear it kind of "start up" ?

[kchan]

not sure about the OCZ PSU, from the research i did i pretty much went with a more expensive/lower watt corsair PSU than a higher watt other brand personally

Is it common to hear your hard drive kind of "start up" sometimes when directly accessing the content on that HD? all my OS etc. is installed on my SSD, but say I open explorer and explore the 1TB caviar black which is just storage, if its quiet in my room i can hear it kind of "start up" ?

yes it is normal because your storage drive isn't normally used so when you do "random access" on a file or whatnot, the hard drive has to spin up (your caviar black is a mechanical drive, it has moving parts unlike the SSD), so that is why you will hear your hard drive

however, you can minimaze those noise by buying shock absorbers that are like washers so they minimize the vibration from the hdd to the case

[-lincolnboi-]

Hey guys, have an amd 3200+ with a 6600gt that just crapped out, any suggestions on gpu replacements? Not used for gaming, dad just streams dramas/ plays on poker stars most of the time

[kchan]

Hey guys, have an amd 3200+ with a 6600gt that just crapped out, any suggestions on gpu replacements? Not used for gaming, dad just streams dramas/ plays on poker stars most of the time

make sure u know if the port is AGP or PCI-E
if its AGP you'll have the best luck in the buy&sell section on RS or craigslist

[-lincolnboi-]

make sure u know if the port is AGP or PCI-E
if its AGP you'll have the best luck in the buy&sell section on RS or craigslist

Thanks, it's a PCI-E

[kchan]

Thanks, it's a PCI-E

good, go for a Nvidia 210 or Ati 5450 those are like ~$30
heres one on sale for $15
Gigabyte Radeon HD 5450 700MHZ 512MB 1.6GHZ DDR3 HDMI DVI VGA DIRECTX11 PCI-E Low Profile Video Card - Gigabyte - GV-R545OC-512I (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=50258&vpn=GV%2DR545OC%2D512I&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1301)

or find one on craigs

European on RS is selling 2 used cards, but i think they are AGP im not 100% sure but pm him if u like
link: http://www.revscene.net/forums/637288-fs-random-computer-stuff.html

[StylinRed]

I've got a problem

when i press the power button on my new computer it will light up for 1 second the fans will start to move and then the comp immediately shuts off (it won't reach the point of beeping either)


any clues? everything is brand new....

going to try a different power supply but :/

[exdee]

I've got a problem

when i press the power button on my new computer it will light up for 1 second the fans will start to move and then the comp immediately shuts off (it won't reach the point of beeping either)


any clues? everything is brand new....

going to try a different power supply but :/

that happened to me before all i did was push that battery on the motherboard LOL for some reason it did the trick

[roastpuff]

Thanks, it's a PCI-E

Want to buy my 8800gt?
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[twitchyzero]

g9x is $50 at futureshop for anyone that cares..still in stock.
Logitech Laser Gaming Mouse (G9x) - Black : Gaming Mice - Future Shop (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/logitech-logitech-laser-gaming-mouse-g9x-black-910-001156/10131609.aspx)

[StylinRed]

well it isnt the power supply :/

[SkinnyPupp]

try different ram, different cpu

[StylinRed]

argh such a pita

yeah the ram was the first thing i did and that was a no go

then the power supply thats a no go

ill try that battery on the mobo next

and then probably leave it till next year and then deal with the trying a different cpu ;)

cuz ill have to grab the one off of my dads comp and he's going on a bf3 marathon atm -_-

[dn53]

one time i had the same problem. Did you mount the copper extensions onto the case before mounting the mobo (forgot what theyre called). Remounted it properly and it started up a-ok.

just googled it-- theyre called stand offs.

[StylinRed]

ah the mobo posts yea got all those in

after trying a diff cpu im just gonna bring the whole thing in to memoryexpress (bleh richmond)

[striderblade]

I've got a problem

when i press the power button on my new computer it will light up for 1 second the fans will start to move and then the comp immediately shuts off (it won't reach the point of beeping either)


any clues? everything is brand new....

going to try a different power supply but :/

You sure you have all the power cable plug into the motherboard? Check your board to see if you have a different ATX12v input "might be a four pin plug" located somewhere else on the motherboard. If it doesn't boot past post it usually mean is not getting enough power.

[StylinRed]

it doesnt even enter post i dont think

it immediately shuts off after the power button is pressed except for like a split second the fans will start to spin/leds on and boom stop literally 1sec or less

i tried 2 PSU

a Antec 650w 80plus bronze
and a 750w coolermaster 80plus

both with the same results

the mobo

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/eldonko/P8z68/Board/layout.png

only 1 atx12v?



right now just waiting for my dad to hit the sack and ill try the cpu in his comp

[striderblade]

so the atx 12v is connected? Have you try resetting the cmos?

[StylinRed]

yep


well i didnt remove the jumper but i replaced the battery i figured that would be the same thing?

[Razor Ramon HG]

Looking to make a budget tower for my cousin around $400.

So far this is what I have:

Antec Mini P180 mATX Tower Case White 3X5.25 1X3.5EXT 5X3.5INT Front USB eSATA Audio
Antec Mini P180 mATX Tower Case White 3X5.25 1X3.5EXT 5X3.5INT Front USB eSATA Audio - Antec - MiniP180White (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=51309&promoid=1301)

Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 500W ATX 12V V2.3 Silent Power Supply 20/24PIN 120MM Fan
Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 500W ATX 12V V2.3 Silent Power Supply 20/24PIN 120MM Fan - COOLERMASTER - RS500-PCARA3 (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35940&promoid=1301)

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box - AMD - HDZ955FBGMBOX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47459&promoid=1301)

ASUS M5A78L-M LX mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L-M LX mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard - ASUS - M5A78L-M LX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61739&promoid=1301)

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit - Mushkin Enhanced - 996768 (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55546&promoid=1301)

Samsung SH-222AL 22X DVD Writer SATA Lightscribe OEM
Samsung SH-222AL 22X DVD Writer SATA Lightscribe OEM - Samsung - SH-222AL/BEBE (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=64204&promoid=1301)

With taxes, roughly around $350.

Anyone know what else I can do to save some cash? I still need to grab a hard drive (fucking Thailand flood) and a "decent" video card around $50 (GT520/HD4670?)

[-lincolnboi-]

Want to buy my 8800gt?
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Bought a 5450, but thanks for offering :alonehappy:

[roastpuff]

Looking to make a budget tower for my cousin around $400.

Anyone know what else I can do to save some cash? I still need to grab a hard drive (fucking Thailand flood) and a "decent" video card around $50 (GT520/HD4670?)
Buy my 8800GT and I'll sell you a WD Black 640GB too while I'm at it hehe. :concentrate:

[Razor Ramon HG]

How much for both?

[trancehead]

im considering just getting the z68 motherboard plus a 2500k.
i would just use the integreated graphics (hd 3000) for now
so it provides an upgrade path in the future.

im wondering, is this hd3000 going to slow the shit out of me using photoshop? or with videos? web content? i havnt dabbed with integrated graphics in ages so im uncertain

[ddr]

i thought this was a pretty good story to read:

Any idea why my motherboard did this? - Beyond.ca - Car Forums (http://forums.beyond.ca/st/346822/any-idea-why-my-motherboard-did-this/)

[!MiKrofT]

im considering just getting the z68 motherboard plus a 2500k.
i would just use the integreated graphics (hd 3000) for now
so it provides an upgrade path in the future.

im wondering, is this hd3000 going to slow the shit out of me using photoshop? or with videos? web content? i havnt dabbed with integrated graphics in ages so im uncertain

It should be OK.

[SkinnyPupp]

im considering just getting the z68 motherboard plus a 2500k.
i would just use the integreated graphics (hd 3000) for now
so it provides an upgrade path in the future.

im wondering, is this hd3000 going to slow the shit out of me using photoshop? or with videos? web content? i havnt dabbed with integrated graphics in ages so im uncertain

It excels in video. It won't be as fast as discrete in gaming or Photoshop though
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[mr_chin]

where can i buy water cooling stuff?

ncix has them but they're in their warehouse.

[SilveRx]

For the z68 motherboard which would be a better choice? and why?
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 or Asus P8Z68-V Pro?

[StylinRed]

so brought the comp to memoryexpress...... supposedly ive got pins bent/crushed on the socket :suspicious: they say it looks like something was dropped on it.... wtf?


i didn't do shit but they're like "we check all our motherboards before we sell them to make sure they're in working order" :suspicious:

"so you're sol"


so even if i brought it home and inspected the unit first i'd still be sol?? -_-


:fuuuuu:



the manager says he'll try and see if asus will replace it but won't find out for like a week but he doubts it.... that isn't good enough -_-

but ah well i just want it ended with

[SkinnyPupp]

So they opened the box and static bag before selling it to you? They are probably the ones who broke it

You could try bending the pins back into position. If you used a credit card to buy I would dispute the payment

[StylinRed]

yeah that's what im thinking (they broke it) but there's not much I can do about that

i'll wait and see what they say about a warranty issue before bitching to my credit card i guess

[!MiKrofT]

Uhh they can't tell a board is in working order by just opening it and looking at it. Weird.

[StylinRed]

yeah, i don't think ill ever buy from memoryexpress again -_-

and the part about opening and checking every processor/motherboard before sale felt like a :badpokerface:

shame they're closed could use some venting

[Datsun]

When I bought my MB they took off the socket cover for me to PERSONALLY check the pins and sign the invoice confirming it's not bent...do they still do that? :S

[StylinRed]

When I bought my MB they took off the socket cover for me to PERSONALLY check the pins and sign the invoice confirming it's not bent...do they still do that? :S

that's interesting to know, thanks; i never got a signed invoice regarding them checking the pins simply got a packing slip & invoice

i ordered mine during black friday though and they told me too many orders got through so they were actually out of stock and i was hounding them about it so they sent mine out the day i was told they received stock

but yeah like i said i never got what you received in terms of a inspection confirmation

[Datsun]

I think you got a pretty good chance of winning a dispute with ME, seeing as no one signed off saying the board is intact. I think a bunch of other RSers who bought the same board around the same time also had the opportunity to inspect theirs before buying.

[Purely]

Looking to make a budget tower for my cousin around $400.

So far this is what I have:

Antec Mini P180 mATX Tower Case White 3X5.25 1X3.5EXT 5X3.5INT Front USB eSATA Audio
Antec Mini P180 mATX Tower Case White 3X5.25 1X3.5EXT 5X3.5INT Front USB eSATA Audio - Antec - MiniP180White (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=51309&promoid=1301)

Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 500W ATX 12V V2.3 Silent Power Supply 20/24PIN 120MM Fan
Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 500W ATX 12V V2.3 Silent Power Supply 20/24PIN 120MM Fan - COOLERMASTER - RS500-PCARA3 (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35940&promoid=1301)

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box - AMD - HDZ955FBGMBOX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47459&promoid=1301)

ASUS M5A78L-M LX mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L-M LX mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard - ASUS - M5A78L-M LX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61739&promoid=1301)

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit - Mushkin Enhanced - 996768 (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55546&promoid=1301)

Samsung SH-222AL 22X DVD Writer SATA Lightscribe OEM
Samsung SH-222AL 22X DVD Writer SATA Lightscribe OEM - Samsung - SH-222AL/BEBE (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=64204&promoid=1301)

With taxes, roughly around $350.

Anyone know what else I can do to save some cash? I still need to grab a hard drive (fucking Thailand flood) and a "decent" video card around $50 (GT520/HD4670?)

This is a budget gaming set up right? I think you should spend more money on a graphics card than a CPU for performance.

[zonda_s]

For the z68 motherboard which would be a better choice? and why?
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 or Asus P8Z68-V Pro?

Here's some of the key differences (may/may not be deal-breakers), based on site specs:

Gigabyte:

Max RAM frequency support: 2133mhz
Realtek LAN chip
3 PCI-E x1 Slots
3 SATA2 + 1 e-SATA ports
Firewire port on back panel built-in

ASUS:

Max RAM frequency support: 2200mhz
Intel LAN chip
2 PCI-E x1 Slots
4 SATA2 + 1 e-SATA ports
Built-in Bluetooth adapter

I was in the same boat as you in terms of choosing between the two boards. I chose the ASUS board mainly because it had one extra SATA port. I have quite a few hard drives hooked up and I'm planning to add more in the future. Don't get me wrong, both boards are great. I've used ASUS and Gigabyte boards for my builds and I've been happy with them.

ASUS adds a nice extra touch to their higher end boards as well by giving you an adapter that allows you to easily connect your case's power switch/reset cables to the motherboard easier. It's not much of a deal-breaker, but it helps out a lot when putting everything together.

Hope this helps. Again, you can't go wrong with either board.

[zonda_s]

Is it common to hear your hard drive kind of "start up" sometimes when directly accessing the content on that HD? all my OS etc. is installed on my SSD, but say I open explorer and explore the 1TB caviar black which is just storage, if its quiet in my room i can hear it kind of "start up" ?

I'm going to take a bit of a guess but it sounds a bit like WDIDLE (WD's intellipark feature) is enabled on your drive, which isn't supposed to be the case for the blacks. Is it the spin-up sound you get as if you were to cold-boot your pc? If so, then WDIDLE may be causing it.

I have blacks and greens in my desktop. I immediately noticed that happening with my greens. I thought it would be fine, but I read around that it can reduce the lifespan of the drive motors so I immediately disabled it. Since I've done that, I haven't noticed any "start up" sounds that you may be speaking of.

edit: my bad for the double post, decided to answer another question.

[cctw]

that's interesting to know, thanks; i never got a signed invoice regarding them checking the pins simply got a packing slip & invoice

i ordered mine during black friday though and they told me too many orders got through so they were actually out of stock and i was hounding them about it so they sent mine out the day i was told they received stock

but yeah like i said i never got what you received in terms of a inspection confirmation

3 of the gigabyte mobo and 2500k combos came randomly in stock today so I luckily picked one up!!

But to answer your question, they asked if I wanted quick mount..which is like them mounting the cpu and ram onto the motherboard for free..I said yes so they did it for me..(guess if anything happens to it they're on the hook?)

The other option is telling them no you don't need quick mount, in which they took out the motherboard and let me inspect the cpu socket before selling to me..and I had to initial that I checked the pins were not bent (I originally thought they charged for quick mount but found out later they did it for free so let them do it)

[StylinRed]

wtf i never got that option -_- makes me even more :suspicious:

[striderblade]

so brought the comp to memoryexpress...... supposedly ive got pins bent/crushed on the socket :suspicious: they say it looks like something was dropped on it.... wtf?


i didn't do shit but they're like "we check all our motherboards before we sell them to make sure they're in working order" :suspicious:

"so you're sol"


so even if i brought it home and inspected the unit first i'd still be sol?? -_-


:fuuuuu:



the manager says he'll try and see if asus will replace it but won't find out for like a week but he doubts it.... that isn't good enough -_-

but ah well i just want it ended with


ERRR what? dude they are fucking with your head. Is not up to them to check all the motherboard to see if they are working or not. It is up to the manufacture. So you're telling me they open up every fucking box. Mind you that could be a skit load of box and during the busies month, unwrap every boxes then hook it up and test every single one of them? No fucking way. Wouldn't that consider used? If i were in your shoes i would told them straight up that "listen motherfucker, you think my ass is itching right now that i would buy this shit, bring it home break the fucking pin and drive all the way back here to exchange the same shit? :fulloffuck:

[Hondaracer]

That's why I like NCIX, I am more than capable of building a system but for the $50 for them to assemble it, even if you don't load an OS on it of you ask nicely they will load one on then remove it after they run all their tests

It's not that big of a deal but it's nice to bring home a computer you at least know is working at the moment rather than running into unexpected problems with components that are unopened
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[trancehead]

3 of the gigabyte mobo and 2500k combos came randomly in stock today so I luckily picked one up!!



you lucky guy. any word on when any more "random" stocks would appear?

[Razor Ramon HG]

This is a budget gaming set up right? I think you should spend more money on a graphics card than a CPU for performance.

Not a budget gaming setup, but would be nice because my cousin does a little bit of gaming. She currently plays L4D2 on some shitty GeForce 6000.

One question..

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box - AMD - HDZ955FBGMBOX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47459&promoid=1301)

ASUS M5A78L-M LX mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L-M LX mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard - ASUS - M5A78L-M LX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61739&promoid=1301)

On the motherboard specifics, it says it supports CPUs up to 95W. The X4 955 has a TDP of 125W.

Will there be negative effects from this pairing? I did some Googling online, and from what I found, the CPU does run on the motherboard.

[SkinnyPupp]

Not a budget gaming setup, but would be nice because my cousin does a little bit of gaming. She currently plays L4D2 on some shitty GeForce 6000.

One question..

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box - AMD - HDZ955FBGMBOX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47459&promoid=1301)

ASUS M5A78L-M LX mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard
ASUS M5A78L-M LX mATX AM3+ DDR3 AMD 760G 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 1PCI SATA2 VGA GBLAN Motherboard - ASUS - M5A78L-M LX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=61739&promoid=1301)

On the motherboard specifics, it says it supports CPUs up to 95W. The X4 955 has a TDP of 125W.

Will there be negative effects from this pairing? I did some Googling online, and from what I found, the CPU does run on the motherboard.
You would be running the voltage regulation circuit out of spec, and the board would probably die within a year.

That's why it's cheap.

[Razor Ramon HG]

What do you think of running this as an alternative then?

AMD Bulldozer FX-4100 Quad Core Processor 3.6GHZ Socket AM3+ 95W Retail Box
AMD Bulldozer FX-4100 Quad Core Processor 3.6GHZ Socket AM3+ 95W Retail Box - AMD - FD4100WMGUSBX (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=64407&vpn=FD4100WMGUSBX&manufacture=AMD&promoid=1301)

[SkinnyPupp]

I actually haven't tested a low end Bulldozer yet, but I wouldn't get that motherboard

[Razor Ramon HG]

Ended up ordering an i3-2100 with a Gigabyte H61M-S2H mATX. (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63501&vpn=GA-H61M-S2H&manufacture=Gigabyte)

Reviews off Google seemed decent. What do you think?

[cctw]

you lucky guy. any word on when any more "random" stocks would appear?

apparently shipments were delayed till week of Jan 14th, so they put off the sale till then.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Didn't know NCIX was closed today. FUUUUUU!!!
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[SkinnyPupp]

Ended up ordering an i3-2100 with a Gigabyte H61M-S2H mATX. (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63501&vpn=GA-H61M-S2H&manufacture=Gigabyte)

Reviews off Google seemed decent. What do you think?
That's exactly what I would have suggested

[SkinnyPupp]

http://i.imgur.com/eOPxR.jpg

That's a lotta RAM :sweetjesus:

80GB to be exact

[StylinRed]

you doing a ram review?

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup reviewing some 16GB kits

I think I need to take another picture.. you can't even tell that there are 20 sticks of ram there :lol

[StylinRed]

awesome i got 16gb of that hyperx mem

i got that cooling fan too but it doesnt fit on my motherboard the heatsink and power cord get in the way -_-

[dyan]

Hey guys

Looking for a gaming rig, however i have no clue how to build my pc. Looking for some help

Budget ~1000 obo.

TIA

[bobola]

Just install my Intel 320 120GB ssd with fresh window 7 installation...

Should I move my temporary internet files into HDD?!


Mainly follow everything on this guide http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-guide-optimization-for-ssds-hdds

Cept the write cache part.

[zonda_s]

Should I move my temporary internet files into HDD?!

i would. doing so reduces the amount of writes on the ssd, prolonging its life.

[bobola]

Great done that to Firefox and IE (not that i ever use IE D;) !

How big should pagefile be set to ?
I shrink to 1024 mb min/max.. and I still get error on bf3

Running 4GB ram..

[zonda_s]

i just created a 10gb parition on one of my hard drives to put all my temp files/cache and pagefile stuff. i used the system managed size option. i don't think it matters much really in terms of how large it is. at least i haven't noticed any difference.

what kind of error are you getting? did this start happening before or after any changes you made?

[!MiKrofT]

The swap file should be at least equal to double the amount of ram. I didn't bother doing any settings on my ssds for desktop or laptop. Not worried about wear.

[SkinnyPupp]

Don't fuck around with your pagefile and settings like that. Windows 7 is aware of SSD, and will make the best use of it possible if you just leave it alone.

[sTi-K]

Here is a build that I have come up with mainly for gaming and school. Hopefully it will last me a few years. Let me know if theres anything I can improve on TIA!

- Intel i5 2500k cpu
- Asus P8Z68-V LX mobo
- Kingston Hyper X 8Gb ram
- OCZ Vertex 3 120Gb SSD
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX560 Fermi videocard
- Antec High Current Gamer 620W psu

[cctw]

^i would get the 560ti instead of the 560 and not use OCZ ssd..

[unit]

Here is a build that I have come up with mainly for gaming and school. Hopefully it will last me a few years. Let me know if theres anything I can improve on TIA!

- Intel i5 2500k cpu
- Asus P8Z68-V LX mobo
- Kingston Hyper X 8Gb ram
- OCZ Vertex 3 120Gb SSD
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX560 Fermi videocard
- Antec High Current Gamer 620W psu

i have a similar build but with a 6850 and crucial m4
ocz are the fastest and do well in reviews but they have issues

[DC5-S]

My new build:

2500k i5 combo
HIS 6870
Corsair force series gt 60gb ssd
X-fi sound card
1tb hd
Ocz 700w psu
Zalman z9 case
hyper 212 evo
6 case fans and gonna upgrade evo stock fan
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[zonda_s]

^i would get the 560ti instead of the 560 and not use OCZ ssd..

was debating between the 560 and 560ti as well a few weeks ago. decided to go with the 560ti and never looked back since. worth the extra performance boost imo

[q0192837465]

^i would get the 560ti instead of the 560 and not use OCZ ssd..

Hmm, I just got a ocz agility 3. What's wrong with them?
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[cctw]

^been reading a lot of failure issues with ocz drives every site i'm going to..like BSOD..lost data..and speed issues

maybe OCZ has tried to fix these probs with firmware updates but alot of ppl are reluctant to give OCZ another chance..

i wouldn't want to take the chance if the ssd has my OS and stuff in it..but if you don't mind its alright i guess..

[unit]

lots of people with bad experiences in owning them.
has a 3 yr warranty i think but to get it replaced it takes i think 6 weeks or so.

[SkinnyPupp]

The BSOD issues were on all SandForce based drives, and were fixed by a firmware update.

Anything else is just rumors and cases of 'vocal minority'

[zonda_s]

The BSOD issues were on all SandForce based drives, and were fixed by a firmware update.

Anything else is just rumors and cases of 'vocal minority'

if i remember correctly, the firmware update that fixed the issue reduced the performance of the drives. i think the whole bsod issue was due to the controllers running too fast?

[SkinnyPupp]

Performance wasn't affected for me. It is possible that performance tweaks could have affected stability, but I don't think that would be the case if every single SF drive is affected by the bug.

[!MiKrofT]

Yeah latest ocz firmware has fixed any of the original issues. No need to stop recommending them or steering ppl away. I've got the agility 3.

[zonda_s]

btw, just a heads up for crucial m4 owners and ones that maybe on the market for it. there seems to be an issue with the drive once it nears the 5200 hour mark. more info here:
Re: 0x00000f4 error on M4 64GB - Page 9 - Crucial Community (http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/0x00000f4-error-on-M4-64GB/m-p/77906#M23769)

just before everyone goes into panic mode, 5200 hours = 216-217 days of continuous use so this may not apply for most people yet.

edit: i own an m4 128gb myself and haven't noticed any issues yet. most likely because i an nowhere near that 5200 hour mark.

[areyez]

btw, just a heads up for crucial m4 owners and ones that maybe on the market for it. there seems to be an issue with the drive once it nears the 5200 hour mark. more info here:
Re: 0x00000f4 error on M4 64GB - Page 9 - Crucial Community (http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/0x00000f4-error-on-M4-64GB/m-p/77906#M23769)

just before everyone goes into panic mode, 5200 hours = 216-217 days of continuous use so this may not apply for most people yet.

edit: i own an m4 128gb myself and haven't noticed any issues yet. most likely because i an nowhere near that 5200 hour mark.


i just got mine today...how u like your m4?

[ddr]

"We are aware of an issue that is currently affecting a small number of users whereby their m4 causes their system to require a restart. This issue occurs after approximately 5,000 hours of actual “on time” use. Following the initial reboot, the system then requires subsequent restarts after each additional hour of use. However, the data on the SSD is unaffected and will not be lost due to this condition.



Through our investigation, we have determined the root cause of the problem and will be releasing a firmware update that rectifies the situation. We are currently running through our validation and compatibility process. Once this process is complete, the firmware will be made available to our customers. Although we understand the desire of some people to start using unreleased firmware now, we want to ensure that our solution works across multiple chipsets, systems, and operating systems before publishing the release code. We are currently targeting the week of January 16th, 2012 to publicly release the new firmware update.

We understand the impact that this is having on some users right now and apologize for this inconvenience. We appreciate your continued support, feedback, and patience as we finalize code and resolve this issue.

Dude, Crucial Employee, US"

well at least they're not too slow in responding to customer's request publicly. have my fingers crossed for my M4

[sTi-K]

Thanks for all the input, ill look into some other SSDs before making a decision. If I do get the Vertex ill let u guys know how it is.

[ddr]

Does anyone know if Dell HK hold days of deals sales? looking to get a 23-24" for my dad in HK.

[bobola]

i just created a 10gb parition on one of my hard drives to put all my temp files/cache and pagefile stuff. i used the system managed size option. i don't think it matters much really in terms of how large it is. at least i haven't noticed any difference.

what kind of error are you getting? did this start happening before or after any changes you made?

Memory error.. game just freeze up and have to restart comp.

At first I disable pagefile.. but then googled a bit.. not recommand for people with 4 gb or less...
So I went with 1024 mb..

But still get the same error .. but window tell me to close it.. doesnt freeze the comp..

Now I check automatic manage pagefile ..
Doesnt freeze or anything.. I'm guessing people only do it to save room for their ssd?
But I still have quite a bit of space left...!

[!MiKrofT]

As Mr and skinnypup say you don't need to mess with anything special for the ssd. You always need a swap file.

[zonda_s]

update on the crucial m4 "problem": Re: 0x00000f4 error on M4 64GB - Page 15 - Crucial Community (http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/0x00000f4-error-on-M4-64GB/m-p/79094#M24083)

problem identified and firmware fix on the way! there's no need to hit the panic button at all.

i just got mine today...how u like your m4?

i've had mine since june/july and i love it! the current firmware version provided a nice performance boost compared to when i initially bought it. cap it off with my new desktop which i got just weeks ago, i got even more of a boost. win7 from cold boot takes about 15 seconds or less to get to the logon screen. im sure part of it is because of my other new components but i'm not complaining.

Memory error.. game just freeze up and have to restart comp.

At first I disable pagefile.. but then googled a bit.. not recommand for people with 4 gb or less...
So I went with 1024 mb..

But still get the same error .. but window tell me to close it.. doesnt freeze the comp..

Now I check automatic manage pagefile ..
Doesnt freeze or anything.. I'm guessing people only do it to save room for their ssd?
But I still have quite a bit of space left...!

strange... i guess if there's no problem with it being automatically managed, it's better than no problems. again, i just do that to prevent unnecessary writes to prolong my ssd's life, or so i read on hwcanucks. i'll probably do a bit more research on it when i have time. how much space do you have left? i have mine running at about 60% capacity.

[DC5-S]

To the computer literate.. What do I need to do in bios and windows once I get my PC and set it up for SSD as boot? Set controller to achI in bios and disable prefetch and format in windows?? What else..
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[SkinnyPupp]

People, stop doing things like disabling prefetch and cache, etc. You are breaking windows. It is meant to work with all that stuff on, and is aware of SSDs, so there's no reason to move or disable them.
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[DC5-S]

Okay well I don't know. This is my first time using ssd and ive been trying to google it. Do I need to do anything besides switch controller to achi? What about boot priority? And where to put pagefile and what settings with 8GB ram?
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[SkinnyPupp]

Just run it in ahci and you're good.
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[Hehe]

There are a few stuff you could turn off in windows when you get SSD. It doesn't affect the OS much, it's only comes down to the constant reading the SSD for data feed. But you don't really need that when your drive is fast enough. (you won't notice much performance difference) It only theoretically shorten your SSD life. (not by much, but for those anal enough to care)

Some of them that I can think of for Win7:
drive indexing (allow faster access to file on HDD, but SSD is too fast to need this)
defrag schedule (again, not exactly needed on SSD)

[SkinnyPupp]

Like I keep saying over and over and over again. Windows 7 is aware of SSDs. You do not need to disable anything. It will disable the things it doesn't need for you, such as defrag schedule, superfetch, etc. leave that alone, leave the pagefile alone (moving it is stupid since you would be losing the benefit of having an SSD in the first place), etc.

That's the last I'll say on this. It still bothers me to see bad advice being given over and over again though. If you want to follow that, go for it, but don't repeat it if you don't know what you're talking about.

[SilveRx]

So...
this is what im planning to build... any suggestion/comment on it?
i7 2700k
heatsink: ? which would be good for the i7?
ASUS P8Z68-V Pro GEN3
Corsair Vengeance 12GB/24gb ddr3
560 ti (any particular brand)?

thanks

[SkinnyPupp]

you got the CPU wrong there. You need to be looking at LGA1155 chips

[gunchoz]

So...
this is what im planning to build... any suggestion/comment on it?
i7 960
heatsink: ? which would be good for the i7?
ASUS P8Z68-V Pro GEN3
Corsair Vengeance 12GB/24gb ddr3
560 ti (any particular brand)?

thanks

Isn't the P8Z68-V Pro for LGA1155? The i7 960 is LGA1366.

[SilveRx]

o...
lol

thanks i'll make note of that before i send the order

[DC5-S]

Bought a second 6870 for crossfire :) computer is going to FLY. fucking memory express is so slow to ship.. Still waiting for my boxing day order. I'm hoping to achieve a stable 4.8 GHz oc
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[SilveRx]

so what i have is actually the 2700k
got it mix up
cuz got it from the intel edge promotion

[trancehead]

Anyone on mem express waiting for their post boxing day deals?

[sam0m0]

dam site stopped loading for me...i thought they upgraded their servers for this too lol

[trancehead]

i jus twanted the i5 combo
fuck i thought they would post it on their home page right away...so there i was clkicng refresh

but u just had to search 2500k and the combo would come up.
my angus

[sam0m0]

i wanted the i5 combo too, but i manage to get the HIS radeon 6970.. 75 after mir. i think it was 99 on boxing day so its a good deal.

[sam0m0]

hey i just noticed ncix has the same deal! but ripjaws ram instead which I wanted originaly for the same price! NCIX Bundle Deal G.KILL Ripjaws 2X4GB Memory Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 & Intel i5 2500K Unlocked CPU - Bundle Deals - 8GBXLUD3H2500k (http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67523&vpn=8GBXLUD3H2500k&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals&promoid=1065)

[Datsun]

i wanted the i5 combo too, but i manage to get the HIS radeon 6970.. 75 after mir. i think it was 99 on boxing day so its a good deal.

HD6970 for $75...is this real life?

[alex.w *//]

http://source.ncix.com/eblast/WarehouseSale_Jan2012/index-lp.html

[BlackV62K2]

Parts for my build

Case: Corsair 500R
CPU: Intel i7 2700K
Heatsink: Noctua NH-D14
MB: Asus p6z68-v pro gen 3
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 16GB
Video Card: Evga 560 Ti 448 cores classified
PSU: Seasonic X760
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB

What's a good 23-24 inch monitor?

[Datsun]

NCIX.ca - NCIX's Epic Clearance Warehouse Sale 2012! (http://source.ncix.com/eblast/WarehouseSale_Jan2012/index-lp.html)

I saw a pic earlier of someone lining up around 8PM.

[!MiKrofT]

I saw a pic earlier of someone lining up around 8PM.
10-15ppl at 10:40pm lol

[Datsun]

The deals are NOT that good TBH. The good stuff is probably the monitors (prices seem to be the same for past 2 other sales Ive been to) and certain laptops (educated guess). The rest are either warm deals or stuff not worth freezing your balls off for.

e.g. that white Antec case for 50 bucks. Its avail online right now for same price brand new, and during Boxing day it was $40. Plus buying an Antec case in this day and age is kind of dumb considering how much more refined and better value their competitors' cases are.

[roastpuff]

HD6970 for $75...is this real life?

I think he accidentally a number.

[sam0m0]

HD6970 for $75...is this real life?

whoops, lol i meant Radeon HD 6870

[trancehead]

i think ill go to mem express tomorrow morning. ill be in the black northface jacket with fur on the hood lol. dont be afraid to say hi :alone:

[_Hotsauce_]

Looking to build a budget gaming rig for the sole purpose of playing Diablo 3. Trying to keep the budget around $500 (not including Monitor/HD/CD drive). I don't care about over-clocking and all that shit, just looking to play D3 at max details + movies and shit. I've done up a few builds on NXIX but am looking for another opinion.

Thoughts on processor/mobo/graphics etc? Thanks

[roastpuff]

Looking to build a budget gaming rig for the sole purpose of playing Diablo 3. Trying to keep the budget around $500 (not including Monitor/HD/CD drive). I don't care about over-clocking and all that shit, just looking to play D3 at max details + movies and shit. I've done up a few builds on NXIX but am looking for another opinion.

Thoughts on processor/mobo/graphics etc? Thanks

Good luck bro... Max details for $500? Case, PSU, motherboard, CPU, RAM AND video card? :heckno:

Anyhow... :accepted:

NCIX Gaming Bundle Deal AMD Phenom II X6 1055T & MSI 870A Fuzion Power DDR3 Motherboard - Bundle Deals - 1055 & 870A FUZION POWER (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67418&vpn=1055%20%26%20870A%20FUZION%20POWER&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals&promoid=1065) - X6 1055T and MSI Mobo
Patriot Sector 5 PGV38G1333ELK 8GB DDR3 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL 9-9-9-24 1.65V Dual Channel Memory Kit - Patriot - PGV38G1333ELK (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54174&vpn=PGV38G1333ELK&manufacture=Patriot&promoid=1065) - Patriot 8GB RAM
Visiontek Radeon 6950 2GB DDR5 2XMINIDP 2XDVI PCI-E DIRECTX11 Video Card - VISIONTEK - 900352 (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=60080&vpn=900352&manufacture=VISIONTEK&promoid=1065) - Radeon 6950 2GB
Corsair VX550W 550W ATX 12V 41A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan - Corsair - CMPSU-550VX (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25984&vpn=CMPSU%2D550VX&manufacture=Corsair&promoid=1065) - Corsair PSU.

Use your current case, etc.

[_Hotsauce_]

Blizz recommends the following "OS: Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 (Latest Service Packs) | Processor: Intel® Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz
or AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 5600+ 2.8 GHz | Memory: 2 GB RAM | Video: NVIDIA® GeForce® 260 or
ATI Radeon™ HD 4870 or better"

so I think $500 is pretty do able, no? I can go above $500 if really needed to meet max specs on a 24" screen, but yeah, wanna keep it as low as possible.

[ddr]

M4 0309 firmware out. never had any problems because not at 5k hours yet, but installed it after reading some feedback on the new FW.

[dyan]

Any suggestions on better choices for a desktop mainly for gaming and schoolwork..

Specs are :

Case: Corsair 500RR.. dont know much about cases, however this was recommended for me
Processor: i7 2600k 8MB Cache 3.4ghz Or i5 2500k
Motherboard: asus p8z68 vpro
heatsink: corsair hydro h70 liquid cooling --> Dont know if i should just stick with fans instead of liquid cooling
memory: Corsair vengence 16gb
HD: 1TB Seagate barracuda sata III with 64mb cache
video card: evga GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI or 448 cores
power supply: Cooler master 600 watt extreme power plus OR Corsair CX600 V2 600 watt --> is this enough or too much power?

Any help with lowering price without hindering performance would be much appreciated !
Also, it just fits under my budget of $1500 taxes in.

[Purely]

Can someone recommend me a build for around $700 before taxes? Friend wants it for gaming..(Diablo 3, BF3, etc)

Planning on doing an i5 2500k build, since it seems like the best bang for the buck for gamers right now. I took the items off ME because they offer free assembly.

mobo: GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 Gigabyte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 w/ Dual DDR3 2133, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, CrossFireX / SLI at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33372)
ram: GSKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB PC3-12800 GSKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB PC3-12800 Dual Channel DDR3 Kit (2 x 4GB) at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33234)
GPU: HIS Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 HIS Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35404)
CPU: intel i5 2500k 3.30 GHZ w/ 6MB Cache Intel Core (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX31557)
PSU: Silverstone Strider Essential 700W Power Supply Silverstone Strider Essential 700W Power Supply at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32276)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus Case w/ Fan Controller Zalman Z9 Plus Case w/ Fan Controller at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX31654)

Total $724.94 before taxes/MIR

Could anyone chime in on this build? I'm not too sure which mobo/ram/gpu is suited for this budget. I know more $$ should be spent on the graphics card, but I think going i5 2500k is better bang for the buck vs going AMD at this budget point.

[DC5-S]

Where were you when they had the boxing day deals? Could have saved enough to go crossfire on 6870's which is what I have :) but build looks fine. Just get a decent air cooler. I recommend hyper evo, then u can get a nice OC
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[Purely]

Where were you when they had the boxing day deals? Could have saved enough to go crossfire on 6870's which is what I have :) but build looks fine. Just get a decent air cooler. I recommend hyper evo, then u can get a nice OC
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Thanks I'll check it out, but I don't think friend will be ocing. Yeah.. missed the boxing day sale and also missed the ME late boxing day sale few days ago.. (the i5 2500k combo with mobo and ram for like $300 could have saved like $130 easily)