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10-21-2011, 10:41 AM
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#1 | | Glorious Gaming PC Master Race
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| ISPs that don't throttle bitTorrent?
OK i'm on Shaw and getting pretty pissed off with the throttling.
is there any other provider in vancouver/coquitlam that does NOT throttle?
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10-21-2011, 10:48 AM
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Shaw does not thorttle form what I have seen. Are you using a Wifi router?
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10-21-2011, 10:53 AM
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#3 | | Glorious Gaming PC Master Race
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Originally Posted by Manic!  Shaw does not thorttle form what I have seen. Are you using a Wifi router? | im hardwired. as soon as i fire up uTorrent, the net almost DIES. i tried Peer Guardian and it works for a little while then Shaw catches on again.
and yes im using a wireless router too. port forwarded and all that. the main PC is wired.
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10-21-2011, 11:05 AM
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#4 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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In Utorrent change the number of connections to a lower amount. Click options then preferences and then bandwidth.
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10-21-2011, 11:28 AM
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Ouch, when I use to use BitTorrent I noticed that Shaw tends to throttle during 5-7ish. Either that or the nodes were just congested during prime-time browsing.
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10-21-2011, 11:47 AM
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#6 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Funny you should ask this now - LifeHacker just posted an article on ISPs throttling BitTorrent: Find Out Which ISPs Are the Biggest BitTorrent Throttlers Quote: Canada
In Canada, all large ISPs have admitted to slowing down BitTorrent traffic, and some do so to a great extent. Since the start of the measurements Rogers has continuously throttled more than three-quarter of all BitTorrent traffic, and there are no signs that this will stop.
During the first quarter of 2010 the two other large Canadian ISPs, Bell and Shaw, were throttling 16 and 14 percent respectively. Videotron on the other hand has never slowed down more than 7 percent, and only 3 percent during the last measurement year.
Worst: Rogers (78%)
Best: Videotron (3%)
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10-21-2011, 02:25 PM
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#7 | | Glorious Gaming PC Master Race
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Originally Posted by Manic! In Utorrent change the number of connections to a lower amount. Click options then preferences and then bandwidth. | all that is done. I am about ready to just move to someone who isnt gonna fuck me.
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10-21-2011, 02:44 PM
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#8 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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i'm with shaw and i don't have any problem with torrent. Sound like the problem is either coming from your anti virus software or firewall setting. Had this happened to me once. Try disable some setting in there one by one until you find the source.
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10-21-2011, 02:49 PM
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#9 | | Got MOD?
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Do you have utorrent encryption turned on? My internet and torrents are always fast. I've gotten a torrent at 3MB/s download at one time while still surfing fine. In addition to the encryption I also cap my upload bandwidth to 15KB/s max
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10-21-2011, 04:10 PM
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#10 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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teksavvy...i don't feel any difference when i'm torrenting and surfing...
enabling encryption should help a bunch but only if peers are available...g'luck...
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10-21-2011, 04:15 PM
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Have no problems with Shaw/uTorrent as well. Have encryption set to Forced
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10-21-2011, 05:18 PM
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#12 | | Prince of the Apes
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i avg 500kb - 1mb download speeds with shaw on utorrent depends on the torrent for me.
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10-21-2011, 07:03 PM
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#13 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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ive no issue with torrents although i hardly ever download that way but when i do im just limited by my extreme plan
have you or do you need to adjust those tcp half-open settings?
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10-21-2011, 08:57 PM
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#14 | | I keep RS good
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Originally Posted by !MiKrofT Do you have utorrent encryption turned on? My internet and torrents are always fast. I've gotten a torrent at 3MB/s download at one time while still surfing fine. In addition to the encryption I also cap my upload bandwidth to 15KB/s max | where do u find this option? i dont see it anywhere and i have the latest utorrent version.
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10-21-2011, 10:54 PM
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10-21-2011, 11:21 PM
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i'm gonna take a wild guess and say it might have to do with you router and QoS, i had the same problem you're having without a router. i've used a 655 for couple years now and it's been all good with Shaw.
torrent speeds can vary wildly depending on where your seeds are. Sometimes they total just under 2mb/sec with stuff from demonoid or tpb, i've also had stuff from china that constantly stays at <10kb/sec.
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10-22-2011, 10:02 AM
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#17 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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I'm on Shaw Extreme and I can confirm the 14% throttle.
Torrenting, I have never seen a speed higher than 2.7MBps = 21.6Mbps.
1-(21.6/25)*100 = 13.8% throttled, where 21.6 is my "real" speed, and 25 is the advertised speed.
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10-22-2011, 10:14 AM
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telus has never throttled
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10-22-2011, 10:49 AM
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#19 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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+1 telus doesn't seem to throttle
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10-22-2011, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by woob I'm on Shaw Extreme and I can confirm the 14% throttle.
Torrenting, I have never seen a speed higher than 2.7MBps = 21.6Mbps.
1-(21.6/25)*100 = 13.8% throttled, where 21.6 is my "real" speed, and 25 is the advertised speed. | I kinda doubt that's entirely throttling, considering 4-5%ish on top of that speed is probably IP headers, and i'm sure there's probably quite a decent amount of control traffic for torrenting, and you'll never get the full 25mbps down to the last bit anyways.
Telus definitely does rate limiting for regular downloads, don't know about torrents. I generally just use a certain file hosting website to download everything from, which i always get about 14.6mbps from (incl headers). I downloaded about 20GB a day on monday/tuesday/wednesday at full speed, and come thursday i started a download and get 60KB/s, but only from that site, everything else was fine. Except, i was watching my bytes downloaded go... 256KB.. pause ..512KB.. pause ..768KB.. pause.. 1024KB. So at that point it was painfully obvious what telus was doing, so i just turned on my work VPN and sure enough was back to 1.5MB/s once telus couldn't identify the traffic.
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10-22-2011, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy617 I kinda doubt that's entirely throttling, considering 4-5%ish on top of that speed is probably IP headers, and i'm sure there's probably quite a decent amount of control traffic for torrenting, and you'll never get the full 25mbps down to the last bit anyways.
Telus definitely does rate limiting for regular downloads, don't know about torrents. I generally just use a certain file hosting website to download everything from, which i always get about 14.6mbps from (incl headers). I downloaded about 20GB a day on monday/tuesday/wednesday at full speed, and come thursday i started a download and get 60kbps, but only from that site, everything else was fine. Except, i was watching my bytes downloaded go... 256KB.. pause ..512KB.. pause ..768KB.. pause.. 1024KB. So at that point it was painfully obvious what telus was doing, so i just turned on my work VPN and sure enough was back to 1.5MB/s once telus couldn't identify the traffic. | Correct. That's no way to tell cause torrent speeds are all over the place. There's no way you can maintain a 25mbps on shaw extreme from most of the sites online.
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10-22-2011, 01:40 PM
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#22 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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only real way to tell if you are being trottled from torrents are good private tracker where everyone's seeding like nuts lol
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10-22-2011, 01:44 PM
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#23 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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^ all my torrents are off private trackers. I DL usually at a constant 2.3-2.5MB/s . 2.7 is the max that I have seen it and thus I used that value in my calculation.
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10-23-2011, 04:08 AM
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#24 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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i have no problem with my internet etc when i'm torrenting.. the only time i run into problem is if someone is uploading like mad ~ i can download as fast as i want with no problem it's when someone is uploading that's when i start having issues =\
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10-23-2011, 04:16 AM
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What router are you using?
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