[bcrdukes]

We've destroyed the health/workout thread with nonsense so let's create a separate thread to focus on this. (This is mostly a thread for Gerbs.) :D

[GLOW]

should rename it the red pill thread :troll: :badpokerface:

[Traum]

So... following this thread should give me enough reasons to completely abandon the idea of getting into an affair, bcos the process is gonna suck so much, and I'll become completely disgusted by it?

[BIC_BAWS]

Bold of you to think that we'll actually stay on topic, I think modern dating or dating in general is so intertwined with physical and mental wellbeing, that it's hard to disconnect that.

[murd0c]

best dating site hands down is Hinge. The rest are complete garbage and the same shit over and over.

[spoon.ek9]

I used multiple apps over the years. In the end, they aren't that much different. You'll also find the same people are present across multiple apps so it defeats the purpose entirely because the pool is relatively the same.

[EvoFire]

So... following this thread should give me enough reasons to completely abandon the idea of getting into an affair, bcos the process is gonna suck so much, and I'll become completely disgusted by it?

Truly ambitious thought from you that you have the financial means and the time to pursue an affair.

Wife and I joke, she tells me to not cheat. I'm like, with who? My left hand?

[unit]

most of us have no idea about modern dating

[GS8]

In short:

Internet = The Host
Social Media = Cancer

Modern Dating = Pancreatic Cancer (The deadliest cancer)

[Badhobz]

Prostitution is the cure

[spoon.ek9]

Tidbit that some of you may not know: Bumble was created with the goal of flipping the script so that women have to be the one message first. Why? It was meant to show that women who message are actually interested in you.

The irony? On other apps, many women complain that men all say the same things and it's boring and they need to try harder. However, you can't try too hard or you look desperate. Try too little, you're boring. Often times girls had in their profiles "please say something more interesting than Hi". So when it came to girls being the first ones to message men what do you think their first messages contained?

"Hi"
"Hello"

:facepalm:

Extra irony? Women complained so much that the app did away with women messaging first and it reverted back to the exact same shit other apps were doing to begin with.

Irony again? Can't be so!

Women hate having their phone blown up by hoards of men but many also revel in the attention. So multiple matches feed their ego but are ultimately meaningless because vast majority of messages from men are ignored. If you're "lucky" enough to get a response, you'll likely be ghosted. This feeds the fantasy that all girls are highly sought after and they have endless options so why "settle" for less than their ideal (top 1-3%) man. You go girl :noyoudidnt:

[Razor Ramon HG]

I used multiple apps over the years. In the end, they aren't that much different. You'll also find the same people are present across multiple apps so it defeats the purpose entirely because the pool is relatively the same.

Hinge has a better reputation of being a more "serious" place to meet someone for a long term relationship. The required questions to fill out in your profile were more geared towards that.

At our age group, I like to think that a lot of people are looking for the same thing so most folks aren't on there to fuck around. But then again, my fiance told me all of her online dating horror stories.

Tons of weirdos and retards on there once you meet up.. so it shouldn't be too difficult to meet someone on there if you're at least a normal person look-wise and personality-wise.

[spoon.ek9]

I used Hinge too. I'm telling you from personal experience it wasn't any better than any other app I used prior to that. In the end, apps are just a tool and it depends on how people use it. So yes, apps can work but the way things are out there, GFL gents!

[Razor Ramon HG]

I guess I should rephrase.

At least from my experience Hinge facilitated deeper conversations because more detailed profiles were required compared to Tinder.

I can't remember if other apps like Bumble or Coffee Meets Bagel was like that as I only used dating apps for a short period of time.

[donk.]

Treat real life like a dating app

Getting coffee? > Hit on cashier
Workout? > Hit on the whore wearing a bikini
Getting groceries? > Hit on that milf

You miss 100% of the chances you dont take.

Just remember, dont shit where you eat. (Work). Because that can get you in trouble (ask me how i know)

I honestly think men have higher odds getting poon in person, than on a dating app.
App gets you like 1 in 1000 results, where in real life its like 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 30. (1 in 3 if your name is mikemhg)

[BIC_BAWS]

https://i.imgur.com/HyyaUPd.png

[68style]

Just remember, dont shit where you eat. (Work). Because that can get you in trouble (ask me how i know)


Do tell :)

[68style]

I can honestly understand why so many women are easily scared or defensive, I know a girl living in Florida who is a single mom and very good looking and in the last month she’s:

- been followed home from work by a guy who demanded her number and got violently angry when she refused to give it to him
- had a 58 year old married guy she knew who was the husband of one of her clients offer to help her move some stuff with his truck and when she thanked him and gave him a one armed hug he grabbed her ass and then later showed up at her door to drop by and check on her and said she owed him a blowjob at the very least nobody helps someone move stuff for free called her a bitch and she had to call the cops
- went to play pool and watch Super Bowl and had a guy harass her so bad she had to leave the bar and go home and then the bartender who offered to kick the guy out and got her number to check on her later she got home okay started sending her explicit messages and said she should expect it cuz she’s a hot girl and sometimes guys can’t help themselves ……

So yah it’s a fucking shitshow out there on both sides.

[donk.]

Do tell :)

This will get me in trouble x2, so im gonna fluff some details, but story is the same:

I was working at a city of _________ owned property like 9 years ago.
It was a house, split into 3 rental units.
Bottom floor: two tenants. One tenant had control for the thermostat, for all 3 suites. Top floor, third tenant.

I got sent there as the old lady upstairs was constantly complaining its too cold.

Checked thermostat downstairs: set to 22C, upstairs was 20C and she had windows open. "Its too stuffy"

I told the old hag to close her windows and it would be warmer, she did not like my response at all, and that i should raise the thermostat temp to suit her needs.......

Anyways, i went back downstairs to try and find a common ground with the tenant that had the thermostat, and other tenant.
As we were chatting, somehow we ended up talking about her schooling and that she was doing a writing major if i recall correctly... Hot asian chick

I finished up onsite, everyone was happy except the old hag upstairs. Told me im no help.
I go back to my truck, and im like, you know, i gotta go for this asian chick.
I sit in my truck for like 15 minutes, and write a septet poem about what we talked about, go back to her door, knock, shes not home, i slide it under her doorway.
I leave, and about 3 hrs later i get a "your poem made my day, if i wasnt in a monogamous relationship i would definitely go on a date with you" or something along the lines.

Fast forward to the next morning, i get a call from my boss, nothing unusual.....
I say: hey boss
He says: morning, you know, you cant be leaving poems at city of _________ tenanted houses right?
At this point im dumbfounded, wtf? How? what?
Anyways he grills me a little about it, dont shit where you eat, all good.

The fucking old hag, went downstairs, after i left, talked to hot azn chick, to try and get her to increase thermostat or whatever, complaining that i was useless. Azn chick i guess said that i "was nice and left a nice poem".
Old hag got triggered, called the city, telling em to fire me. City called my boss, boss called me.

Silver lining: 3 years later im sent back to the same house for a shitter fitter issue, i go up into the old hags suite, she looks at me, squints, pauses "i remember you" with a disappointed look on her face"

Yeah, im still employed you rotting corpse. "Have a nice day!"

[Hehe]

I have been out of the game for decades. But shit the scene is fucked up today from the complaints from my younger cousins or older nephews, at least among the Asian (like born and bred, not some CBC shit) once you are in the late 20s and early 30s.

The whole thing is like a business trade. You've got something I want and these are what I can offer. There's no longer much love or emotion involved.

I'm like, how can people date like this?! No wonder divorce rate is through the roof. Somewhere along the line when we swapped out actual dating to swipe left completely messed up our idea with marriage.

[dark0821]

i was told to never go out of bounds within the same country.... like if you are married here... and if you HAVE TO "have some fun" go on an overseas vacation. Then everything stays there and will never come back to fack you....

I mean we all know how small Vancouver is... you fucking sneeze and someone somwhere is gonna msg your wife about it.... lolol somehow my wife knows half of Vancouver... godaamn it hahaha

Oh Hehe got a point, the funny thing is....

The white washed / CBC esque friends I have all married and have somewhat stable marriages with kids and stuff...

All the rich 2nd gen / newer immigrant friends that I met thru Uni and beyond are almost all divorced, on their 2nd marriages or what not...

Never thought of it till Hehe mention and I think back... oh yea....

[djstyles]

Prostitution is the cure

I'm fairly certain that I'm just going to go on sex tours in SE Asia once a year and embrace being a big time pervert for a month :considered:

[Gumby]

LOL my 17 year old had a gf during Gr 11, and then another over the summer, but alas she left for university. He's been single for Gr 12 and told us he's glad because having a gf takes up so much time and is expensive. :lol

Now he thinks he is an expert and gives his friends relationship advice. :lol

I may be biased, but he's a good looking kid with a good head on his shoulders so he should be fine in the future, I hope...

[Tapioca]

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7089283

Another video from mainstream media about the state of relationships today.

[bcrdukes]

LOL my 17 year old had a gf during Gr 11, and then another over the summer, but alas she left for university. He's been single for Gr 12 and told us he's glad because having a gf takes up so much time and is expensive. :lol

Now he thinks he is an expert and gives his friends relationship advice. :lol

I may be biased, but he's a good looking kid with a good head on his shoulders so he should be fine in the future, I hope...

His primary method of transportation better be a private jet or helicopter and a fleet of super cars. You better not let him fail, DAD! :mad:

[Gumby]

His primary method of transportation better be a private jet or helicopter and a fleet of super cars. You better not let him fail, DAD! :mad:
Lazy ass got his L but didn't sign up for driving lessons, so public transit for him!

[donk.]

I'm fairly certain that I'm just going to go on sex tours in SE Asia once a year and embrace being a big time pervert for a month :considered:

I think i saw you on youtube, the video title was called "sex tourism asia: tracking the fathers"

[mikemhg]

I will happily be Rev's dating app guinea pig. Not looking forward to it, as its been a minute.

Going to take some time to heal my mind, focus on the new doggo, and maybe jump into an app in a few months when spring starts :)

[bcrdukes]

Lazy ass got his L but didn't sign up for driving lessons, so public transit for him!

You guys need to come out to the Stock & Noob Meet this summer! (Likely no girls there so YMMV) :concentrate:

[djstyles]

I think i saw you on youtube, the video title was called "sex tourism asia: tracking the fathers"

I'll write a book when I retire called "Memoirs of a Pervert". Rolls right off the tongue

[bcrdukes]

Your user title should be modified to: I will not admit my sex tourism addiction to RS"

[Badhobz]

It’s the way to do it.

Pray for mojo….

[68style]

I'll write a book when I retire called "Memoirs of a Pervert". Rolls right off the tongue

Until tongue itself rolls of, rotted by scurbies and gonadrrheas

[roastpuff]

I will happily be Rev's dating app guinea pig. Not looking forward to it, as its been a minute.

Going to take some time to heal my mind, focus on the new doggo, and maybe jump into an app in a few months when spring starts :)

Shit, sorry to hear that Mike.

Doggos are great for this though.

[Hehe]

Until tongue itself rolls of, rotted by scurbies and gonadrrheas

Ok. I need translation. I don’t understand half the sentence. Should I be concerned? :pokerface:

[Badhobz]

Ok. I need translation. I don’t understand half the sentence. Should I be concerned? :pokerface:

youve never eaten an infested pussy?

boy you havent lived at all!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Sarah_Kerrigan_%28StarCraft%29_in_Zerg_form.png + https://media.tenor.com/nKSwvRKOhmAAAAAM/patrick-tongue.gif = https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQaxWLMsN2FqO00bcglfvLlSWnckEcTs HdTbg&s

[EvoFire]

Bring out your dead!

[6793026]

I was working at a city of _________ owned property like 9 years ago.
It was a house, split into 3 rental units.
Bottom floor: two tenants. One tenant had control for the thermostat, for all 3 suites. Top floor, third tenant.


hilarious.. didnt know city owned houses and had to maintain them but my buddy was renting from the city once.

eveyrthing is taken cared of by the city, down to driveway and stuff... super cool ...

[GLOW]

I'm fairly certain that I'm just going to go on sex tours in SE Asia once a year and embrace being a big time pervert for a month :considered:

looks like we know who's going to arrange the next RS meet :ifyouknow: :badpokerface: :ilied:

[djstyles]

looks like we know who's going to arrange the next RS meet :ifyouknow: :badpokerface: :ilied:

I'll see you guys at Sky Bar (the one in the Hangover) in Bangkok in Nov??? I hope you guys like $50 drinks

[donk.]

youve never eaten an infested pussy?

]

I forget who told me this, i think it was at work, true or not.....:

We had a buddy that kept a bowl of lemon juice near his bed.
When he brought women back to bang (gerbs pay attention), before he would eat the poon, be would dip his fingers into the lemonwater, then rub the pussy.

If she reacted to it, pussy was no good.
If there was no reaction, pussy good to eat/bang.

[unit]

i'd test it out with a bit of flour and water first to see if it makes the dough rise.
if it's too yeasty and the dough passes the windowpane test then you can eat the bread not the pussy.

[GLOW]

I forget who told me this, i think it was at work, true or not.....:

We had a buddy that kept a bowl of lemon juice near his bed.
When he brought women back to bang (gerbs pay attention), before he would eat the poon, be would dip his fingers into the lemonwater, then rub the pussy.

If she reacted to it, pussy was no good.
If there was no reaction, pussy good to eat/bang.

that's like some ancient chinese herbalist wisdom stuff going on there :lol

[MarkyMark]

i'd test it out with a bit of flour and water first to see if it makes the dough rise.
if it's too yeasty and the dough passes the windowpane test then you can eat the bread not the pussy.

Ah the old bread or breed move, a classic

[yray]

sourdough bread :ifyouknow:

[bcrdukes]

Part of my capstone project involves sourdough bread. I think I'll drop out now. :inout:

[RabidRat]

Wtf is wrong with you people :lol

[supafamous]

Yoooooooooo single guys. I had a call today with a fairly attractive early 30s white girl out of Calgary who just broke up with her b/f over his infidelity. She's a car enthusiast who had a 240SX that she did an engine swap on back when she was barely legal.

[BIC_BAWS]

Yoooooooooo single guys. I had a call today with a fairly attractive early 30s white girl out of Calgary who just broke up with her b/f over his infidelity. She's car enthusiast who had a 240SX that she did an engine swap on back when she was barely legal.

How did this come up in conversation.. I'm assuming it was someone that worked with a client LOL

And...

she was barely legal.

......

[Traum]

Yoooooooooo single guys. I had a call today with a fairly attractive early 30s white girl out of Calgary who just broke up with her b/f over his infidelity. She's car enthusiast who had a 240SX that she did an engine swap on back when she was barely legal.
Please send me her contact info.

[This message was not approved by le wifey~] :badpokerface:

[68style]

supafamous: I'm sorry, you do not fit my demographic of being a) pregnant or b) lactating... may I offer you up to the mostly married car forum I peruse?

[donk.]

How did this come up in conversation.. I'm assuming it was someone that worked with a client LOL

And...



......

Put your quarter chub away and get back in your basement

[winson604]

A friend went to one of those single event gatherings last weekend. He's from Seattle but comes up often for this type of shit because he says it's depressing as fuck down there. Also, he's a Honger so its harder to find your own kind down there. Anyway, first chick he chats with and her first question was how much would you spend on a first date with me? He says $200 USD and she was instantly triggered claiming it should be at least $500. Yea good luck wtf is wrong with people.

[Gumby]

A friend went to one of those single event gatherings last weekend. He's from Seattle but comes up often for this type of shit because he says it's depressing as fuck down there. Also, he's a Honger so its harder to find your own kind down there. Anyway, first chick he chats with and her first question was how much would you spend on a first date with me? He says $200 USD and she was instantly triggered claiming it should be at least $500. Yea good luck wtf is wrong with people.
WTF, US$200 is already a lot for a first date, and she's expecting US$500+? :heckno:

No wonder she's single.

[RabidRat]

This message was not approved by le wifey~] :badpokerface:

I picture that you brought your phone to your wife, to show her this post you wanted to make.

She shakes her head, but you posted it anyway out of defiance.

[N.V.M.]

i met my GF online on a free gaming site 3 months after i got Shaw internet in 1998. there were chat windows along the side of the screen so everyone in the the "room" could chat with each other. i was in a Canada room and started chatting with her while playing Keno. she was in Calgary and this went on for over a year before she flew to Vancouver to visit. she moved here in late 1999.

[winson604]

WTF, US$200 is already a lot for a first date, and she's expecting US$500+? :heckno:

No wonder she's single.

Shocking I know, this wasn't some bougie singles event either where the attendees were of a wealthier status. Just some regular average joe event.

[bcrdukes]

How is a $500 date sustainable? I mean, I get it if you're working at the tech firms in Bellevue/Seattle etc, but wow. :confused:

That's one hell of an expensive dinner.

[Badhobz]

500 is fine, but if im blowing 500, im going to blow out your asshole and you wont sit straight for a week... fucking bitch.

[BIC_BAWS]

How is a $500 date sustainable? I mean, I get it if you're working at the tech firms in Bellevue/Seattle etc, but wow. :confused:

That's one hell of an expensive dinner.

Modern dating is full of entitlement and ppl that are completely out of touch. This person is exactly what's wrong with the world.

Also I find it funny how previously y'all used to call it inching on red pill/incel, but like.. lmao more examples keep popping up.

[djstyles]

$500USD for a first date is nuts. I know something you could get 6 of for that money :whistle:

[unit]

even 200USD for a first date is ridiculous haha.

[CivicBlues]

$500USD first date is nuts, $200 first date is nuts.

why is no one else thinking that asking that question in the first place at a singles meet is NUTS!?

[djstyles]

Dating is nuttier than squirrel shit

[winson604]

How is a $500 date sustainable? I mean, I get it if you're working at the tech firms in Bellevue/Seattle etc, but wow. :confused:

That's one hell of an expensive dinner.

Lol that's exactly what he does but still I'd say it isn't very sustainable anyway. if you're single making that coin sure go nuts blowing hundreds on fancy dinners on yourself or with the boys but once you get involved that big pay shrinks pretty quickly.

[bcrdukes]

A starting date at $500 USD can only compound into something massive. You'd make more in an annuity as a stronger investment!

If this is the "normal" expectation for a regular Jack and Jill, man, I can see why birth rates are declining!

[CivicBlues]

Is there anyone out there making reels clowning on these bitches taking them out saying you'll spend $1000 then bailing and stiffing them with the bill?

That would be hilarious I'd sign up for TikTak just for that.

[Hehe]

U$500 might be just a bit much. But to say $200 is too much is a stretch.

I mean, I dunno about you guys, I've always paid for meals when going out on a date and given how much a meal is today at a decent restaurant, I am not sure how far $200 is gonna go.

[unit]

great way to set a precedent that you're going to pay for everything all the time.

[CivicBlues]

The biggest flex is getting your girl to pay for you.

[unit]

i dated a girl for 4 years who had rich parents. we had to fight to pay every bill and she usually won.

[supafamous]

As long as my wife is ok with it I'd want to date a rich girl.

[winson604]

Is there anyone out there making reels clowning on these bitches taking them out saying you'll spend $1000 then bailing and stiffing them with the bill?

That would be hilarious I'd sign up for TikTak just for that.

The @whatever podcast always comes up on my IG feed and man these girls make my head hurt. It's the usual girls who are 2's or 3's at best thinking they're 10 and throwing every double standard of what girls vs guys should and shouldn't do. We're freaking doomed that such girls do exist out there and with social media I'm sure it brainwashes more and more girls to think this way.

[AstulzerRZD]

Assuming the best.. it's like talking to ur little sister's annoying friend who ends up being really nice

they don't sound fun because they're coming across entitled... but I think ur supposed to match that with humor like

"A million bucks but i'm keeping the dog when we divorce"
"However much the wedding costs. I move fast. Hope your dad likes me."

[EvoFire]

Reminds me of when I was in University. This girl I was in a group project with, she told me she has a bestie who's really rich. The bestie was dating this guy who wasn't rich. Dad of the girl handed the bf keys to a brand new R8. "Here, drive this, it's yours to hold on to."

[Traum]

Reminds me of when I was in University. This girl I was in a group project with, she told me she has a bestie who's really rich. The bestie was dating this guy who wasn't rich. Dad of the girl handed the bf keys to a brand new R8. "Here, drive this, it's yours to hold on to."
Damn... why didn't I ever date a girl that rich?! Could have been driving a Porsche all this time...

That said, I was only driving the family Ford POS back in senior high / ugrad, and I absolutely loved driving the gf's DC2 Integra. (Wait -- does that make my gf at the time the Integra chick?!)

Wait #2 -- actually, another girlfriend many years later drove a DB7 Integra, so that also made her the Integra chick...

[EvoFire]

Damn... why didn't I ever date a girl that rich?! Could have been driving a Porsche all this time...

That said, I was only driving the family Ford POS back in senior high / ugrad, and I absolutely loved driving the gf's DC2 Integra. (Wait -- does that make my gf at the time the Integra chick?!)

Wait #2 -- actually, another girlfriend many years later drove a DB7 Integra, so that also made her the Integra chick...

It's destiny.

None of my girlfriends had cars. I've been doing this wrong, I keep dating poor girls.

[teggy604]

The @whatever podcast always comes up on my IG feed and man these girls make my head hurt. It's the usual girls who are 2's or 3's at best thinking they're 10 and throwing every double standard of what girls vs guys should and shouldn't do. We're freaking doomed that such girls do exist out there and with social media I'm sure it brainwashes more and more girls to think this way.


Online dating has made them this way. It's mostly a 10,000:1 ratio of sausage. And out of those sausages, if you are not the 0.0001% guy that looks a perfect 10, you are out of luck.

[Badhobz]

i only dated rich girls. not sure why or how but thats always been the case. Even the Scottish chick i dated had a house behind queen liz park. Pretty good for a gewilo.

[djstyles]

the Scottish chick i dated

I dated one too and she was one of my favourites. Low maintenance, minimal fumes :thumbs:

[roastpuff]

i only dated rich girls. not sure why or how but thats always been the case. Even the Scottish chick i dated had a house behind queen liz park. Pretty good for a gewilo.

Wait you dated a Scottish chick but complain about Aussie accents?? :suspicious:

[unit]

i actually like scottish accents way more than aussie

[GLOW]

i only dated rich girls. not sure why or how but thats always been the case. Even the Scottish chick i dated had a house behind queen liz park. Pretty good for a gewilo.

i'm picturing you talking like scrooge mcduck

http://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxwVFWCeI5joDeZjZ4Rqm4fIrHwSHL4 h3zuA&s

[punkwax]

Hot blond + Aussie accent = schwing for this guy.

[Gerbs]

Treat real life like a dating app

Getting coffee? > Hit on cashier
Workout? > Hit on the whore wearing a bikini
Getting groceries? > Hit on that milf

You miss 100% of the chances you dont take.
where in real life its like 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 30. (1 in 3 if your name is mikemhg)

I am 6 for 7 atm in real life.

It's so much better than apps, cause you can see catfish, sus their personality and vibe, and if timing is right, skip to first date/meet-up there.


App gets you like 1 in 1000 results, where in real life its like 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 30. (1 in 3 if your name is mikemhg)

I swapped my Hinge to TO, matched with a few 10/10s, I'll never learn :drunk:

For apps, I'm close to 80-90%+ matching for the demographic I'm looking for, from there 1 in 4 to getting their number, then 33% they show up on a date or was emotionally available / not recently single.

tldr; you're cooked


Going to take some time to heal my mind, focus on the new doggo, and maybe jump into an app in a few months when spring starts :)

I would like to be 1/5th of Mike's size before spring starts :ilied:

[Badhobz]

Wait you dated a Scottish chick but complain about Aussie accents?? :suspicious:

shes born here... her dad was a real SCOTS.... talked a lot like Willy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgXNmMOQZRQ

[Gerbs]

WTF, US$200 is already a lot for a first date, and she's expecting US$500+? :heckno:

No wonder she's single.

I have girl friends in their 32-34 suggesting that the minimum I should do is $50-75/pp for dinner + activities.

Broke girls in their A3's / CLA250's called guys broke boyz, it's fucking nuts.

[Traum]

TBH, $50 per person for a dinner date in this day and age isn't outrageous at all bcos that's what a half decent meal is gonna cost. And if you want something a bit nicer, that $75 range is still sort of reasonable. The problem is, I'm earning too little to sustain going on multiple dates a week at those rates.

20 years ago -- gosh that makes me sound so old -- I was taking my dates to decent dinner dates too. But then they were more like $25 - $30 per person, and I didn't have a 30 year mortgage on my back.

I'm just glad I can take my wife and kid to the food court for $10 - $15 a meal, and everybody is still OK with that LOL~

[HonestTea]

I'd hate to be stuck at a dinner/event on a first date if shes boring af. There's only so many times I can say 'damn thats crazy'.

[Badhobz]

thats why i always imagined it would be great to find a hot deaf/mute bitch.

dont have to hear her yammering, although i guess all those hand gestures would get annoying after a while. But its easier to ignore than her shrill ass voice.

[donk.]

I am 6 for 7 atm in real life.

:

6 for 7?

Pre arranged friend pussy doesnt count, get out of here

[Hehe]

I am 6 for 7 atm in real life.

It's so much better than apps, cause you can see catfish, sus their personality and vibe, and if timing is right, skip to first date/meet-up there.



I swapped my Hinge to TO, matched with a few 10/10s, I'll never learn :drunk:

For apps, I'm close to 80-90%+ matching for the demographic I'm looking for, from there 1 in 4 to getting their number, then 33% they show up on a date or was emotionally available / not recently single.

tldr; you're cooked



I would like to be 1/5th of Mike's size before spring starts :ilied:

How horny are you guys?!? :pokerface:

I might be on the traditional side, but as far as body count goes, I believe quality trumps quantity any time.

[AstulzerRZD]

Gotta run top of funnel volume because you can't control getting the # / how emotionally available they are

[teggy604]

TBH, $50 per person for a dinner date in this day and age isn't outrageous at all bcos that's what a half decent meal is gonna cost. And if you want something a bit nicer, that $75 range is still sort of reasonable. The problem is, I'm earning too little to sustain going on multiple dates a week at those rates.

20 years ago -- gosh that makes me sound so old -- I was taking my dates to decent dinner dates too. But then they were more like $25 - $30 per person, and I didn't have a 30 year mortgage on my back.

I'm just glad I can take my wife and kid to the food court for $10 - $15 a meal, and everybody is still OK with that LOL~


I don't know if there is a min set price. Every date and vibe is different. I have friends shelling out money for dates taking them to the keg, Cactus and none of them ever pan out.

Funny enough the one they married and have kids with are the ones that were perfectly fine going to Aberdeen food court or Wendys, or Mc Donalds.

[RevYouUp]

thats why i always imagined it would be great to find a hot deaf/mute bitch.

dont have to hear her yammering, although i guess all those hand gestures would get annoying after a while. But it’s easier to ignore than her shrill ass voice.

There’s a hand gesture I won’t ever get annoyed of

[hud 91gt]

Doesn’t the new generation not even drink? Date younger, then dinner is cheap ha!

If someone asked some stupid question like that, I’d def give them some stupid answer back. Seee ya. I mean it’s been a while since I dated, but honestly don’t remember the girl not offering to pay or split. Crazy times.

[6793026]

always have an exit strategy... you can only look at her eyes for so long and it's still just your side salad on yoru table.

Start low with ramen, (15min commitment), then walk to get ice cream another 5 min commitment, and then grab a drink if she's interesting. At the end of the drink, if the girl doesn't have the slight inkling to pay, then she's done. All this is easily $50 and works everytime.

[Tapioca]

How many of the guys who are dating today are only going after Asian girls vs non-Asians?

All of this talk about minimum amounts for dates is really only limited to Asian girls who arguably are in higher demand because there are a lot of Asian guys lacking confidence who tolerate their behaviour.

And how many here who are dating now or have recently dated are passing over "mid" women?

[djstyles]

How many of the guys who are dating today are only going after Asian girls


Not me, I've dated white girls for the most part and that's not on purpose but just how things just worked out. All my cars are white and so are my GF's!

[Badhobz]

https://media.tenor.com/NdtW2MUHKVcAAAAM/wink-alonzo.gif

[BIC_BAWS]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSkbl2qiYOA/?igsh=MW9hcHNnNDNjdGszYw==

[donk.]

How many of the guys who are dating today are only going after Asian girls vs non-Asians?

All of this talk about minimum amounts for dates is really only limited to Asian girls who arguably are in higher demand because there are a lot of Asian guys lacking confidence who tolerate their behaviour.

And how many here who are dating now or have recently dated are passing over "mid" women?

Not dating: but when i was, the worst class of woman was persian

They are probably brainwashed from their moms and friends, worse than any other class of woman ive seen

[CivicBlues]

^What show is that? Looks early 2000s-ish

Hoeflation gone crazy now since then.

[unit]

Not dating: but when i was, the worst class of woman was persian

They are probably brainwashed from their moms and friends, worse than any other class of woman ive seen

there are some high maintenance ones who set some bad stereotypes for the rest of them but i dated two completely normal ones and most of their close friends were totally normal too.
of course while with them i met some people in their (loose) circle that i didnt like, but that's pretty normal with any group of people.

[BIC_BAWS]

^What show is that? Looks early 2000s-ish

Hoeflation gone crazy now since then.

Looks like it's called "Moment of Truth" and spot on for the time period. Aired in 2008 for two seasons.

Man I miss 2000s television LOL

[Badhobz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL38UKvHhuQ

rS community 2026

[spoon.ek9]

A few thoughts:

1. Girls have been trying to teach each other that coffee dates are low effort and only done by broke boys. In reality, there are many benefits to this style of a first date but many girls simply want you to "prove you're a provider" so something like this simply won't cut it. Do yourself a favour and walk away from girls who straight up demand a fancy dinner right off the bat.

2. the dollar amount spent on a dinner is difficult for those of you who've long been married for a very specific reason. with apps, you're literally talking about treating a total stranger to an expensive meal who is for SURE talking to multiple other dudes. this isn't the same as traditional dating where you got to know someone in person over the course or weeks/months/years and finally have the opportunity to take them out after already establishing mutual interest. so to expect us as men to shell out $200-$300 for a dinner with some rando is not a smart idea nor does it generally lead to any kind of success with said girl.

3. i find the general disconnect in dating these days stems from wanting all the traditional aspects of dating (picking them up, opening doors, paying for the meal) while providing none of the traditional things on their end themselves. girls are quick to tell you what men should do but try asking them (definitely can't tell them) what it is they think women should do and you'll see how high the double standards are nowadays.

4. I remember one girl on an app who was truthful on her profile and said she is currently pregnant with her ex's baby and that she is keeping it. You'd have to be an absolute idiot to walk into a situation like that or desperate AF. Even then, single moms also have extremely high standards and will gaslight you into believing you're lucky to even be considered (ask me how I know).


Takeaway message:

I can tell you from personal experience that paying for expensive dinners didn't lead to much of anything when I was still out there. Save your money for the girl who proves she's worth it.

[donk.]

Even then, single moms also have extremely high standards and will gaslight you into believing you're lucky to even be considered (ask me how I know).


.

Thats the wildest thing ive read all month lol

[bcrdukes]

Even then, single moms also have extremely high standards and will gaslight you into believing you're lucky to even be considered (ask me how I know).

Sir, how do you know? :ahwow:

[BIC_BAWS]

Even then, single moms also have extremely high standards and will gaslight you into believing you're lucky to even be considered (ask me how I know).

i concur. My example of the "as you should" girl posted prev. is a single mom with two kids.. who doesn't even have custody of their kids...

[HonestTea]

A few thoughts:

1. Girls have been trying to teach each other that coffee dates are low effort and only done by broke boys. In reality, there are many benefits to this style of a first date but many girls simply want you to "prove you're a provider" so something like this simply won't cut it. Do yourself a favour and walk away from girls who straight up demand a fancy dinner right off the bat.

2. the dollar amount spent on a dinner is difficult for those of you who've long been married for a very specific reason. with apps, you're literally talking about treating a total stranger to an expensive meal who is for SURE talking to multiple other dudes. this isn't the same as traditional dating where you got to know someone in person over the course or weeks/months/years and finally have the opportunity to take them out after already establishing mutual interest. so to expect us as men to shell out $200-$300 for a dinner with some rando is not a smart idea nor does it generally lead to any kind of success with said girl.

3. i find the general disconnect in dating these days stems from wanting all the traditional aspects of dating (picking them up, opening doors, paying for the meal) while providing none of the traditional things on their end themselves. girls are quick to tell you what men should do but try asking them (definitely can't tell them) what it is they think women should do and you'll see how high the double standards are nowadays.

4. I remember one girl on an app who was truthful on her profile and said she is currently pregnant with her ex's baby and that she is keeping it. You'd have to be an absolute idiot to walk into a situation like that or desperate AF. Even then, single moms also have extremely high standards and will gaslight you into believing you're lucky to even be considered (ask me how I know).


Takeaway message:

I can tell you from personal experience that paying for expensive dinners didn't lead to much of anything when I was still out there. Save your money for the girl who proves she's worth it.

Wish I could double like this post. So true on all aspects.

[UnknownJinX]

I have been on Hinge for a while, but nowadays I am pretty relaxed about it (and about dating in general - don't want to force it). I do find it crazy online (mainly Reddit, so I guess understandable) how some people are complaining about 8 free daily likes not being enough. Like bruh, how much time are you spending on the app? :fulloffuck:

Get matches once in a while and I am generally fine with paying for a dinner. Good opportunity to try out restaurants, I suppose. That said, if someone thinks it's their God-given right or something to eat something super expensive then yeah, I'm out.

As for IRL, once in a while I can vibe with someone but I don't think I'd ever pick up someone at the gym. Just awkward for me to start a convo if I have to force it and well, most people go to the gym to work out, not to find partners. YMMV, of course.

[spoon.ek9]

Sir, how do you know? :ahwow:

One girl I had met, it wasn't until maybe date number 3 or 4 where she finally told me she had a son from a previous marriage. In order to manipulate the situation in her favour she told me things like "he's an amazing person and you'd be LUCKY to have him in your life". Girl, stfu. If you had been honest from the get go about having a kid I wouldn't have wasted any of my time considering you.

I used to think it's the noble thing to step up and be a father figure in this situation but that is flawed thinking. You're adding drama to your life no matter how you cut it. You are walking into a scenario where you have zero authority. You'll be met with things like don't tell my kid what to do, you're not his father. Or the kid themselves saying I don't have to listen to you, you ain't my dad. A lot of single moms simply want someone to finance their lifestyle and you're the sucker they have their eyes on.

Also, single moms KNOW they are at a huge disadvantage because why would a guy knowingly choose extra responsibility rather than starting fresh with a girl who has zero baggage? So how do you correct this disadvantage? Gaslight the men into thinking they're not a real man if they aren't willing to accept responsibility. It's not the mom's fault, it's yours! Imagine that LUL

Let's not forget that you'll never hear the true story as to why things didn't work out in previous marriage/relationship. Accountability is often a one way street with these types. Did they cheat? Did they steal money? Did they start physical altercations and then claim to be the victim then call police? You'll never know so why choose this girl? Sure, some of them might actually tell you the truth but again, good luck with that.

[bcrdukes]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

[noclue]

At some point the dad will come back into the picture and create a ton of drama. And if you get attached to the kid but you break up you have no legal rights. If she's a single mom through no fault of her own (widow) you could maybe overlook it but otherwise it aint worth it brah.

[Badhobz]

One girl I had met, it wasn't until maybe date number 3 or 4 where she finally told me she had a son from a previous marriage. In order to manipulate the situation in her favour she told me things like "he's an amazing person and you'd be LUCKY to have him in your life". Girl, stfu. If you had been honest from the get go about having a kid I wouldn't have wasted any of my time considering you.

I used to think it's the noble thing to step up and be a father figure in this situation but that is flawed thinking. You're adding drama to your life no matter how you cut it. You are walking into a scenario where you have zero authority. You'll be met with things like don't tell my kid what to do, you're not his father. Or the kid themselves saying I don't have to listen to you, you ain't my dad. A lot of single moms simply want someone to finance their lifestyle and you're the sucker they have their eyes on.

Also, single moms KNOW they are at a huge disadvantage because why would a guy knowingly choose extra responsibility rather than starting fresh with a girl who has zero baggage? So how do you correct this disadvantage? Gaslight the men into thinking they're not a real man if they aren't willing to accept responsibility. It's not the mom's fault, it's yours! Imagine that LUL

Let's not forget that you'll never hear the true story as to why things didn't work out in previous marriage/relationship. Accountability is often a one way street with these types. Did they cheat? Did they steal money? Did they start physical altercations and then claim to be the victim then call police? You'll never know so why choose this girl? Sure, some of them might actually tell you the truth but again, good luck with that.

pssshh if this trash kid was so great, she wouldn't have needed to hide him... :rukidding:

yeah great fucking plan bitch, hide Quassimodo in the belltower till you get a few free meals. Lousy Cunt

[bcrdukes]

ok, spoon.ek9 - Was she at least hot?

[djstyles]

"You'd be lucky to take on my baggage" is what that sounded like. No thanks lady, make like Michael Jackson and beat it.

[spoon.ek9]

ok, spoon.ek9 - Was she at least hot?

for a Chinese girl, let's say 7/10

[bcrdukes]

I guess the crazy factor goes up the hotter they get. :troll:

[Badhobz]

Soooo my ex girlfriend wayyyy back in 2003-2007 was bat shit insane.
She was quite hot, but my god the insanity. She poked holes in condoms. Accused me of cheating on her and even had a private investigator follow me around to see if I was cheating. She then cheated on me as “preemptive” action because in her mind I was fucking all these other girls.

All the while she planned this elaborate wedding and even forced me to go to church so she can get this downtown fancy church place.

Fucking insane bitch. She was also the one who introduced me to the world of anal…. Yah thanks for that.

[EvoFire]

Soooo my ex girlfriend wayyyy back in 2003-2007 was bat shit insane.
She was quite hot, but my god the insanity. She poked holes in condoms. Accused me of cheating on her and even had a private investigator follow me around to see if I was cheating. She then cheated on me as “preemptive” action because in her mind I was fucking all these other girls.

All the while she planned this elaborate wedding and even forced me to go to church so she can get this downtown fancy church place.

Fucking insane bitch. She was also the one who introduced me to the world of anal…. Yah thanks for that.

Cause anal isn't sinning.

[yray]

you missed out badhobz

how is she now?

[Badhobz]

Don’t know…. I dropped her like a stone and she went semi insane. I can’t find her on da internet cuz she has a really retarded name. Jennifer retard chan. There’s like a billion Jennifer retard Chans. I got tired sifting through the shit on fecesbook

[Razor Ramon HG]

A few thoughts:

1. Girls have been trying to teach each other that coffee dates are low effort and only done by broke boys. In reality, there are many benefits to this style of a first date but many girls simply want you to "prove you're a provider" so something like this simply won't cut it. Do yourself a favour and walk away from girls who straight up demand a fancy dinner right off the bat.

2. the dollar amount spent on a dinner is difficult for those of you who've long been married for a very specific reason. with apps, you're literally talking about treating a total stranger to an expensive meal who is for SURE talking to multiple other dudes. this isn't the same as traditional dating where you got to know someone in person over the course or weeks/months/years and finally have the opportunity to take them out after already establishing mutual interest. so to expect us as men to shell out $200-$300 for a dinner with some rando is not a smart idea nor does it generally lead to any kind of success with said girl.

3. i find the general disconnect in dating these days stems from wanting all the traditional aspects of dating (picking them up, opening doors, paying for the meal) while providing none of the traditional things on their end themselves. girls are quick to tell you what men should do but try asking them (definitely can't tell them) what it is they think women should do and you'll see how high the double standards are nowadays.

4. I remember one girl on an app who was truthful on her profile and said she is currently pregnant with her ex's baby and that she is keeping it. You'd have to be an absolute idiot to walk into a situation like that or desperate AF. Even then, single moms also have extremely high standards and will gaslight you into believing you're lucky to even be considered (ask me how I know).


Takeaway message:

I can tell you from personal experience that paying for expensive dinners didn't lead to much of anything when I was still out there. Save your money for the girl who proves she's worth it.

I agree entirely with what you said. Wanting a woman's perspective, I asked my fiance what she thought and I'm just sharing what she said.

1. She said overall she agrees with what you said.

2. She said that coffee dates are so-so. Coffee dates are neutral with low risk, low intimacy. She would agree to a coffee date if she didn't think too much of the guy, but wanted to give it a shot or was bored. If vibes were good, it generally led to lunch after. She wouldn’t want a fancy dinner unless there was real compatibility.

3. She said that she tends to associate money with effort, but that's just her standard. She said for every one of her, there are tons of women out there that are happy to split the bill or have lower standards.

For what it's worth, I talked to my fiance nonstop for 3-4 days before we met up for happy hour at Cactus. I think the bill was $80 for a few appetizers and drinks. I don't think I would've taken her there if I didn't feel a real compatibility.

I wasn't sure about one girl so we just went for a coffee and walk around Central Park, lol.

TBH, there is nothing wrong if you want to spend hundreds of dollars on a first date. I think it's when men expect to get something back in return -- nothing is guaranteed.

[GS8]

Not to be cynical but if my GF & I broke up, I would never get into another relationship again. At my age, not even worth the investment.

If I wanted an unpredictable journey, I'd rather fly a Cessna blindfolded.

[EvoFire]

A few thoughts:

1. Girls have been trying to teach each other that coffee dates are low effort and only done by broke boys. In reality, there are many benefits to this style of a first date but many girls simply want you to "prove you're a provider" so something like this simply won't cut it. Do yourself a favour and walk away from girls who straight up demand a fancy dinner right off the bat.

2. the dollar amount spent on a dinner is difficult for those of you who've long been married for a very specific reason. with apps, you're literally talking about treating a total stranger to an expensive meal who is for SURE talking to multiple other dudes. this isn't the same as traditional dating where you got to know someone in person over the course or weeks/months/years and finally have the opportunity to take them out after already establishing mutual interest. so to expect us as men to shell out $200-$300 for a dinner with some rando is not a smart idea nor does it generally lead to any kind of success with said girl.

3. i find the general disconnect in dating these days stems from wanting all the traditional aspects of dating (picking them up, opening doors, paying for the meal) while providing none of the traditional things on their end themselves. girls are quick to tell you what men should do but try asking them (definitely can't tell them) what it is they think women should do and you'll see how high the double standards are nowadays.

4. I remember one girl on an app who was truthful on her profile and said she is currently pregnant with her ex's baby and that she is keeping it. You'd have to be an absolute idiot to walk into a situation like that or desperate AF. Even then, single moms also have extremely high standards and will gaslight you into believing you're lucky to even be considered (ask me how I know).


Takeaway message:

I can tell you from personal experience that paying for expensive dinners didn't lead to much of anything when I was still out there. Save your money for the girl who proves she's worth it.

One girl I had met, it wasn't until maybe date number 3 or 4 where she finally told me she had a son from a previous marriage. In order to manipulate the situation in her favour she told me things like "he's an amazing person and you'd be LUCKY to have him in your life". Girl, stfu. If you had been honest from the get go about having a kid I wouldn't have wasted any of my time considering you.

I used to think it's the noble thing to step up and be a father figure in this situation but that is flawed thinking. You're adding drama to your life no matter how you cut it. You are walking into a scenario where you have zero authority. You'll be met with things like don't tell my kid what to do, you're not his father. Or the kid themselves saying I don't have to listen to you, you ain't my dad. A lot of single moms simply want someone to finance their lifestyle and you're the sucker they have their eyes on.

Also, single moms KNOW they are at a huge disadvantage because why would a guy knowingly choose extra responsibility rather than starting fresh with a girl who has zero baggage? So how do you correct this disadvantage? Gaslight the men into thinking they're not a real man if they aren't willing to accept responsibility. It's not the mom's fault, it's yours! Imagine that LUL

Let's not forget that you'll never hear the true story as to why things didn't work out in previous marriage/relationship. Accountability is often a one way street with these types. Did they cheat? Did they steal money? Did they start physical altercations and then claim to be the victim then call police? You'll never know so why choose this girl? Sure, some of them might actually tell you the truth but again, good luck with that.

I agree entirely with what you said. Wanting a woman's perspective, I asked my fiance what she thought and I'm just sharing what she said.

1. She said overall she agrees with what you said.

2. She said that coffee dates are so-so. Coffee dates are neutral with low risk, low intimacy. She would agree to a coffee date if she didn't think too much of the guy, but wanted to give it a shot or was bored. If vibes were good, it generally led to lunch after. She wouldn’t want a fancy dinner unless there was real compatibility.

3. She said that she tends to associate money with effort, but that's just her standard. She said for every one of her, there are tons of women out there that are happy to split the bill or have lower standards.

For what it's worth, I talked to my fiance nonstop for 3-4 days before we met up for happy hour at Cactus. I think the bill was $80 for a few appetizers and drinks. I don't think I would've taken her there if I didn't feel a real compatibility.

I wasn't sure about one girl so we just went for a coffee and walk around Central Park, lol.

TBH, there is nothing wrong if you want to spend hundreds of dollars on a first date. I think it's when men expect to get something back in return -- nothing is guaranteed.

I talked to my wife about this as well and she mentioned a few things.

As a mom, the kids are going to be her number 1 priority. Chances are the kids are going to come ahead of you as some one she's dating. I argued about it with her where if she was gonna move in with a guy, you two will share the space and you'd expect the guy to help and then the guy will want to at least impose some of his own house rules. Given that scenario, she said she'd likely not be looking for anyone at all, and most of all won't be on dating apps. So your pool of single moms who ARE on dating app will likely skew towards batshit crazy/entitled/no self awareness.

As a single mom, she said she will have VERY HEIGHTENED sense of danger where the man she meets may potentially be abusive, to her and to her kids. And we have seen some crazy chicks where we agree it applies to both sides. She did mention the abuse thing is actually scarier for men because typically an abusive man is harder to hide. An abusive woman usually are more subtle about it and society's view on it is still very lopsided, where a woman can totally lie about shit, but a man will have to jump through flaming shit hoops to prove it.

I talked to her about how Gerbs found it easier in person (including the bit where he's cheating by being 6'1). She said yeah, cause again goes back to app dating to be so easy and quick, you are going to find girls who will find you replaceable vs meeting someone IRL.

We talked about dating costs. At no point ever in our relationship was Cactus not good enough. Again, a regular dinner for two, 2 mains 2 drinks $100 imo is fair. If the chick thinks Cactus or equivalent is not good enough for say a first date, then maybe the compatitibility isn't there.

[EvoFire]

I'll ask her about coffee/first dates tmr. Again though I'm in the boomer group that probably lines up more with Traum and Supa, where we've been together for almost 20 years and we are severely outdated.

[Traum]

We talked about dating costs. At no point ever in our relationship was Cactus not good enough. Again, a regular dinner for two, 2 mains 2 drinks $100 imo is fair. If the chick thinks Cactus or equivalent is not good enough for say a first date, then maybe the compatitibility isn't there.
IMO from the girl's perspective, Cactus has gotta be a good restaurant for a first date, or any date! With their prettier-than-average waitresses in those little black dress, it's a sure-fire way to gain some quick insights into what kind of guy he is LOL~

Disclaimer -- I probably haven't been to Cactus for something like 2 - 3 years, so I can't confirm whether their lady servers are still as pretty as they used to be.
:badpokerface:

[punkwax]

best dating site hands down is Hinge. The rest are complete garbage and the same shit over and over.

Do you pay for the extra likes etc on Hinge?

[snowball]

Not to be cynical but if my GF & I broke up, I would never get into another relationship again. At my age, not even worth the investment.

If I wanted an unpredictable journey, I'd rather fly a Cessna blindfolded.

Weird, must be our age. I have the exact same thoughts, if anything went awry I'd move into a one bedroom condo and have 3 cars and a mod shop. Rather be with nobody than the wrong person, that's for sure.

[donk.]

Your gf might not be there for you, but your cars always will

[spoon.ek9]

Men often choose peace over anything else. If a women is constantly bringing chaos into your life, let her go. If she doesn't add to your peace, she ain't worth keeping. Simple words to live by.

[Gerbs]

All the rich 2nd gen / newer immigrant friends that I met thru Uni and beyond are almost all divorced, on their 2nd marriages or what not...

Never thought of it till Hehe mention and I think back... oh yea....

Why is that, I met a buncha fobs last year, 3-4 of them are married at early 20's.

All divorced, cheating with kids. Had money early so they could afford to get married?

[UnknownJinX]

Do you pay for the extra likes etc on Hinge?

I did it in the beginning but it's pretty exhausting on my end when you have to think of a response for their prompts. You can just like the prompts without a response but that doesn't really get you anywhere. I was more curious than anything, but after spending like an hour a day on the app, it's definitely not healthy.

IMO 8 free likes a day are plenty, and I don't even use it daily. Again, I find it astonishing when some people were crying 8 likes aren't enough for free tier.

[Teriyaki]

Why is that, I met a buncha fobs last year, 3-4 of them are married at early 20's.

All divorced, cheating with kids. Had money early so they could afford to get married?

Going to hazard a guess, culturally its

a) way higher pressure to marry by a certain age
b) marriage is seen more transactionally, for all sides.
c) marriage involves the whole family, which marriage simply kicks the problems down the road. marriage early satisfies the family pressuring for marriage, but incompatibilities between the couple AND the families eventually rear their ugly head.

[CivicBlues]

Why is that, I met a buncha fobs last year, 3-4 of them are married at early 20's.

All divorced, cheating with kids. Had money early so they could afford to get married?

Yeah was just going to say, it's cultural.

Also might want to rephrase the bolded text seeing as how we're in the Epstein era.

[Traum]

Why is that, I met a buncha fobs last year, 3-4 of them are married at early 20's.

All divorced, cheating with kids. Had money early so they could afford to get married?
If they are rich 2nd gen from Mainland China within the 35 - 45 yrs old cohort (currently), then chances are:

1) Marrying young was a traditional norm and expectation. Women will start getting pressured from their parents to get married if they haven't by the time they turn 25. Guys will probably see the same when they reach their late 20's.

2) They don't necessarily marry for love, and there are a whole lot of other reasons to get married. Some just do it to get their parents off their backs. Some do it out of a matter of cultural / societal norm. Some do it just to have kids. And if your family is rich enough, sometimes you marry for strenthening familial ties and such.

3) They are expected to have kids once they get married. Again, parents will start nagging their (married) children to have kids.

4) Infidelity is not a particularly surprising thing. Some may choose to turn a blind eye towards that; others may not.

But things are no longer quite like that for the Mainland Chinese crowd. Esp for those women who are better educated and/or higher up in their careers, their expectations have remained very high, as everyone pretty much only have their eyes towards marrying up, or finding someone at least on the same level as they are. But again, unmarried men fitting that category are not only few and far inbetween. Even when they are available, they prefer a mate who is younger, and often look for more of a home caretaker to attend to the family needs instead of career women. It has become such a serious problem that it has even received international (news media) attention.

[bcrdukes]

Oh yeah, don't forget their valuation of boys. Ugh! Most of them are useless!

[AstulzerRZD]

focusing too much on dinner and their requirements.
just gotta lead:

"I've got a fun idea - wear some shoes you can walk in and we'll grab great food along the day �� we'll do dinner on date two"

[spoon.ek9]

Speaking of leading, it's extremely ironic that they want a man who leads but you also can't tell them what to do lol.

[The_AK]

Interesting thread. Its an absolute minefield out there and gladly no longer in the trenches based on what I see online and hear from friends.

If I was to get back out on the market again I would probably stick to just my interests rather than go through the apps again. Given how transactional apps are I think that meeting someone IRL is the way forward. Market is over-saturated on both sides when considering online therefore need to go outside the norm to differentiate/stand out. Its possible but will take a different type of effort rather than swiping.

I do think about what the dynamic will be like for my kid when he becomes of age but thats gonna be a few many more years before that problem arises.

[supafamous]

https://www.reddit.com/r/askvan/comments/1rc8gfs/how_big_of_a_dealbreaker_is_not_having_a_car_for/

Guy asks in r/AskVan how big a dealbreaker it is to not have a car for dating. Quite a lot of responses say it's not a big deal while some definitely say it's a dealbreaker.

Regarding all the negative comments about women's unreasonable expectations in today's dating world I've been out of the dating pool for a long time so I don't have direct personal experience but I do have a lot of cousins in the late 20s to early 30s age range who are middle class folks that I talk to a fair bit and I haven't heard them talk about the dating world the way I'm hearing it here.

Re: Coffee dates - I'd only do that if it's a blind date or someone I know nothing about. Any time I asked a girl out it was someone I'd gotten to know at least a bit - enough that I had real interest versus just it being a crapshoot - so that I was willing to put some time and money behind it. I'm asking so I'm paying, it's not about gender roles, it's about manners - I asked for your time and attention and the least I can do is pick up the tab.

I do a lot of networking and it's not so different in that world - people buy me lunch/drinks all the time and I do the same for them depending on who asked and who's the one getting more of out it. Sometimes it's cheap (coffee when it's a stranger), sometimes it's a bit pricier (lunch, dinner or even a nice bottle of alcohol). Anyone who knows me a bit and asks me for my time knows to offer lunch or drinks and not just a cup of coffee. Feels like it works just like dating.

[Traum]

With car sharing companies being a fairly common and relatively inexpensive thing in Metro Vancouver, is not having a car really a deal breaker?

[BIC_BAWS]

Coffee dates are really just blind dates/first dates you don't know anything about. It's a who the fuck are you check and usually I use that for dating apps exclusively. Problem is the women expect something grandiose during a coffee date, when it's really, how the fuck would I know if I like you (or signal towards that) if I don't even know who the fuck you are.


Funny Gerbs brings up cheating..... Remember how in different threads we talked about how women typically mourn the relationship, while being in the relationship? I got another example.

My friend got the ick from her bf over the holiday season, apparently he was being too feminine/clingy for her - they're LDR and she would just be turned off by the things he does or how he behaves when he visits. So she starts flirting with another man - "for fun" / "it was harmless" she says. Fast forward to the day before Valentine's, she made out with this man in the elevator, hooked up with him multiple times throughout the night/next day, and then breaks up with her bf on valentine's day. Fast forward some more, the now-ex-bf wanted closure and asked if she even feels sad, she puts on an act and then gaslight herself into being sad. Then went to a therapist who used therapy words to label her behavior and let her avoid accountability. Ironically, this bf is the guy she starting flirting with, when she was in her last (albeit abusive) relationship. And while all this is happening, her ex-bf from like 20 years ago drops in with a msg/email/dm every now and then for last 20 years while she's in other r/s... idk why (well I know why) she doesn't just no contact and block/ignore him on everything. "Judgement free-zone" but I called her a whore and told her there's a pattern of lacking accountability.

This, along with the "as you should" women, and other manipulative women I've encountered in the past few months... just makes me more distrustful of women. Incel behaviour or not, I'd rather keep my peace and sanity, especially bc it has taken me so long to process past situationships/my actions in those situationships.

With car sharing companies being a fairly common and relatively inexpensive thing in Metro Vancouver, is not having a car really a deal breaker?

I lent my car to my friend for a few weeks this month. He mentioned his gf has said smt about how it would be nice for him to drive and drive his own (well at least not her) car. His gf had a X3MC and even then she would rather him drive his beatup 96 Camry, than for them to go out in her car. I think it's the principle of him taking her out, rather than him taking her out in her things.

[MarkyMark]

My friend got the ick from her bf over the holiday season, apparently he was being too feminine/clingy for her - they're LDR and she would just be turned off by the things he does or how he behaves when he visits. So she starts flirting with another man - "for fun" / "it was harmless" she says.

This new dude was the reason she got "the ick" with her man, he didn't just conveniently stumble into her life as soon as she started getting annoyed by her boyfriend. Someone she liked better and gave her attention came into her life and she needed a reason to cheat on him so "the ick" was her excuse.

[Tapioca]

I'm seeing more white women with Asian guys these days around town. A lot more compared to 15-20 years ago when I was still single.

Young guys should date people who appreciate you, instead of the entitled.

[AstulzerRZD]

Seems like people are trying to apply fairness logic to dating but attraction doesn't care about fair.

It's chemistry, timing, options - everyone's standards shift depending on their situation and most people would do the same.

IMO what actually matters is how you show up. Like the dinner thing - that's a test, flip it, set the tone for what you like and why it's awesome, and you'll find most are down.

Also not gonna lie - a lot of us grew up in Asian households where you're rewarded for being agreeable, not making waves, putting the group first. That works at home. It does not work in dating. You actually gotta take up space, have opinions, lead. It's a different muscle.

A lot of these stories aren't one side being terrible. It's frustrated people picking bad fits and not talking.

[supafamous]

With car sharing companies being a fairly common and relatively inexpensive thing in Metro Vancouver, is not having a car really a deal breaker?

I think, from the comments, that it really depends on where exactly you live in the GVRD and what kind of hobbies you have. Live downtown and you're an urbanite? Not a problem. Live in Surrey and like the outdoors? Problematic.

I bet that question asked in NYC and LA gets completely opposite answers. Same goes for London/Tokyo vs Miami.

[Acura604]

just SOME of my many adventures of ONLINE DATING.

1. dated someone super hot..worked at THE BAY so fully used her 40% discount but wtf, functional alcoholic that turns into mr Hyde when she drank..and of course blacks out the day after.

2. the usual catfish shit - photos are 10yrs old... super fat now!

3. ghosting ghosting ghosting - its the norm

4. "Are We Dating The Same Guy Vancouver" - 75000 member site of angry women that slander men EVERY day by posting their dating profiles


...i'm going to write a book soon.

[HonestTea]

I know RS is mostly guys and most comments here are from the guys side. I wonder if it's difficult on the girls end as well finding a 'good match' these days?

[teggy604]

With car sharing companies being a fairly common and relatively inexpensive thing in Metro Vancouver, is not having a car really a deal breaker?

I think if you don't have a job that would be a deal breaker. Cook, clean, know how to do your own laundry, and know how to take care of yourself is more important IMO.

Sure if you have a fancy car, and make good money that might impress your date, but once you live together and get serious, you will see how fast that shit don't matter.

[EvoFire]

I know RS is mostly guys and most comments here are from the guys side. I wonder if it's difficult on the girls end as well finding a 'good match' these days?

For sure. One big concern are predators/abusive partners. Ultimately as a woman, they are physically inferior. That's overall the biggest concern.

Wife and I have had a conversation about this ongoing and we still both agree, using apps is the easy way out, but you are also scraping the bottom of the barrel.

We talked about single mothers again, and the safe play would probably be ending up with a guy they've known for a long time. Happens in TV/movies quite a lot and I always thought it was cliche. There is however probably a strong underlying reason why as safety and familiarity is going to be a strong selling point.

[MarkyMark]

With single moms it seems they generally end up with a guy they aren't all that attracted to but the guy provides stability for them and their kid so they deal with it. You're likely not finding the guy of your dreams unless he has kids of his own as well.

You'll see these women on 'girls trips' at a resort or something and yeah, they get overly friendly quick while their man is back home holding down the fort.

[BIC_BAWS]

You'll see these women on 'girls trips' at a resort or something and yeah, they get overly friendly quick while their man is back home holding down the fort.

As someone who has been hit on by a bunch of MILFs during a "girls trip".. can confirm LOL. I failed spectacularly and Skunkworks will never let me live it up.

[Traum]

As someone who has been hit on by a bunch of MILFs during a "girls trip".. can confirm LOL. I failed spectacularly and Skunkworks will never let me live it up.
LOLWUT?! That could totally have been your "Auntie, I don't wanna work hard anymore" moment! (Please google 阿姨，我不想努力了 if you dunno what I'm talking about :lol )

I had one of those moments waaaaay back in my mid 20's when I still looked young and dashing. But being the idiotly naive 20-something that I was at the time, I totally squandered the moment LOL~

just SOME of my many adventures of ONLINE DATING.

...i'm going to write a book soon.
Is Acura604 in the dating pool now? You gotta share more of your stories to let us know how the dating scene is in this day and age.

For sure. One big concern are predators/abusive partners. Ultimately as a woman, they are physically inferior. That's overall the biggest concern.
Throughout my dating life, it had never really registered with me how dangerous / risky it is for women to go out on a date with someone. Of course I was aware it happens, but I never had any idea how often it happens because those kinds of abusive behaviour just wasn't something I have come across in my universe. But at some point after I got out of the dating game, the frequency and severity of it started registering, and the risks involved (for girls) really started hitting me hard to the point where I felt like if I was a girl, I'd be scared to go out on dates with total strangers and through online dating apps and what not.

[AstulzerRZD]

With single moms it seems they generally end up with a guy they aren't all that attracted to but the guy provides stability for them and their kid so they deal with it. You're likely not finding the guy of your dreams unless he has kids of his own as well.

You'll see these women on 'girls trips' at a resort or something and yeah, they get overly friendly quick while their man is back home holding down the fort.

yep, no consequences and free to be whoever you are

best thing we can do is let them be 'free' at home and observe to see if they're any good

[Badhobz]

Is Acura604 in the dating pool now? You gotta share more of your stories to let us know how the dating scene is in this day and age.

one too many tire swaps and now youre doing a wife swap. :accepted:

[68style]

We all thought he was changing tires when he kept changing rubbers

[6793026]

Being in the GTA it's really a big difference compared to Vancouver. It's crazy to see how many people you bump into in Van and the dating circle is very small. Now in the TO, you get so so so many more people / about 4X then again, you probably gotta deal with more dudes as well.

What a girl will do is to prove to you that she's worth it... well that's true.. but that's when you already got the 1st date. The issue is not the first date or not, cause by the time you get to the 1st date, you already got a chance.

I think what people is having an issue is when girls are swiping so much. They got so much options it's not even funny. They get so many hits and then the ones they want to hit on, they are also trying to hit on all the good 10/10 guys which they don't qualify.

By the time girls get casted back to reality line... they are 35+ and tons of guys are still waiting.

[spoon.ek9]

The problem is who they tell each other to aim for (top 1-3% of guys). This is despite some of them being 6/10 on a good day. The inflated sense of self worth is delusional for so many of them and the apps only exacerbate this. Women get about 10x more attention on apps and this causes them to think there's a sea of options to choose from so why would they "settle".

So they keep chasing that one guy who's better rather than realizing many of the guys they already met would have made an excellent life partner. Eventually, they get to an age where they're now in panic mode because they want kids and the clock is ticking. Women will again tell each other that they shouldn't settle on any of their demands and that time doesn't matter (it very much does). Let me clarify a little here: Yes, it's still very likely to have a kid between 35-40 but the percentage of success begins to decrease while chances of complications increases. Girls beyond 40 can also have kids but it only gets more difficult from this point on.

This is where some of the women giving advice are disingenuous because they know this will only continue to hurt that woman's odds of finding a partner. They are very much willing to sabotage each other if it means better odds for themselves. Think about how often girls will tell their friends what they want to hear rather than objective reality because they prioritize feelings over the truth.

If you manage to find a girl who listens when you call out her bs, she's got a better head on her shoulders than most. Chances are, that one's a keeper. The ones who continue to be delusional in the current market will find themselves alone or doing IVF to have a baby on their own (I've got stories about this too).

[Gerbs]

Going to hazard a guess, culturally its

a) way higher pressure to marry by a certain age
b) marriage is seen more transactionally, for all sides.
c) marriage involves the whole family, which marriage simply kicks the problems down the road. marriage early satisfies the family pressuring for marriage, but incompatibilities between the couple AND the families eventually rear their ugly head.

In a convo as we speak, girl I am seeing is asking if it's her responsibility to when she's over
- buy groceries sometimes
- help clean
- make food

if she occupies a guys space and she lives at home, but sleeps overs at yours 2-3 nights a week to spend time together. But she's upset the guy wants her to split the bill by covering breakfast/lunch while a guy covers the 2-3x more expensive dinners

[twitchyzero]

just read up on the single's tax

the average number thrown around was $10k per year in wasted grocery, heating bill, etc i dont think it considered the married/common law tax benefit either

[Badhobz]

All of this sounds utterly depressing. Good luck kids!

im out of this ratrace. All i gotta do is make sure i dont get suckered into eating clam by these floosys that randomly pop up in everyday life.

[EvoFire]

just read up on the single's tax

the average number thrown around was $10k per year in wasted grocery, heating bill, etc i dont think it considered the married/common law tax benefit either

What tax benefit is there for being common law/married? I don't think there's such a thing

[donk.]

What tax benefit is there for being common law/married? I don't think there's such a thing

If one makes 220k and tbe other makes 100k
If im not mistaken thats an extra 6k in tax return, per year if you combine file
Edit: the above does not seem to apply in BC

I think you also missed the point of twitchy was trying to make, living solo is a big waste of X and Y, when you can share half the costs

Internet, heating, gas, electricity, finish off food, gas getting to places, insurance, one less car, etc, (obviously not all apply depending on your scenario before someone nearly has a stroke on here like usual)

When my gf moved in, i had an extra 1000$+ per month to burn on track days lol, felt goooooooood

[Infiniti]

This is why you gotta get yourself a gal from Europe (preferably someone originally from a small town, but who has spent time living in cities).

[Badhobz]

This is why you gotta get yourself a gal from Europe (preferably someone originally from a small town, but who has spent time living in cities).

maybe, but i think digital consumerism has made these girls more or less the same globally. All a bunch of materialistic and self entitled bitches who view and consume the same content.

Thats why these kpop fags were able to establish a foothold in north america and europe, nobody knows what the fuck they are singing and yet these bitches go insane snagging up tickets and merch.

Like my wifes dumb cunt friend.. shes on track for probably 30k this year worth of BTS concerts. The tickets alone are already 10k+, plus you gotta factor in flights, hotel, food, etc.

All the while she has a busted up bmw with a perpetual check engine light, takes a quart of oil per month, and has a busted up cat because we dont have aircare anymore, so who cares.

Honestly if you had a crazy ass bitch like her for a wife or girlfriend, youre better off single. Nobody wants to see a kpop fag on bedside table, posters of said fag in your bedroom, and having the back of her phone & wallet with this same fucker. Id punch her straight in the throat.

[Tapioca]

Income splitting doesn't really apply in Canada, unless you're in retirement.

Aside from sharing living expenses, if you're lucky to have a genuine partner who actually cares about your well-being, they're likely going to nag you about maintaining your health and seeing the doctor regularly. Yeah, everyone on RS is tracking their macros and getting blood work every 2 months, but the majority of men as they get older neglect their health. It's even worse when they don't have a loved one nagging them about seeing a doctor, cutting back on the portions, or cutting back on alcohol.

Health is wealth and having a loved one (no, not a dog) who looks out for your well-being can't be measured in dollars and cents.

[RabidRat]

What tax benefit is there for being common law/married? I don't think there's such a thing

Yeah I was disappointed to find out there was no tax deduction for being married lolol.

I guess I just realized what donk. is getting at: if your income is different than your spouse's and so you're at different tax brackets, then you could be pooling your income together to fit into lower brackets.

[Dbone]

I guess I just realized what donk. is getting at: if your income is different than your spouse's and so you're at different tax brackets, then you could be pooling your income together to fit into lower brackets.

I don't get what that means. I make between 3-5x what my wife does, and not only do I not see any tax benefit, the child care I pay for can only be deducted from her tax.

So how do we pool to get in this lower tax bracket.

Also, CRS blows goats. Fuck their stupid hackable website and garbage account management system.

[yray]

tell wife to stay home and not work:troll:

[donk.]

I don't get what that means. I make between 3-5x what my wife does, and not only do I not see any tax benefit, the child care I pay for can only be deducted from her tax.

So how do we pool to get in this lower tax bracket.

Also, CRS blows goats. Fuck their stupid hackable website and garbage account management system.

I take back my previous statement of income splitting, i thought this was valid in BC, but looks like its USA only.

I would still talk to an accountant about rrsp / tfsa splitting, as there may be some room there for you, according to googlez

[Gerbs]

This is why you gotta get yourself a gal from Europe (preferably someone originally from a small town, but who has spent time living in cities).

there's a lot of good girls locally. and I think I could find one at any moment. as my friends would say, I'm only experiencing the delulu one's cause I'm tryna go for the prettiest girls. I will pay the price though :ilied: at least until I'm 32ish, then be more realistic

I know RS is mostly guys and most comments here are from the guys side. I wonder if it's difficult on the girls end as well finding a 'good match' these days?

difficult in the sense that they want
- taller than them
- health/fit
- non smoker/vaping/occasional drug or weed / non excessive alcohol
- makes more than them masked as ambition
- car (optional if you live in DT)
- solo living (optional for some girls)
- provider + considerate + consistent


^
me?? I want a pretty girl who treats me well, family oriented, makes over $60K, then doesn't have to work after 40.

[bcrdukes]

What is solo living?

[Gerbs]

This new dude was the reason she got "the ick" with her man, he didn't just conveniently stumble into her life as soon as she started getting annoyed by her boyfriend. Someone she liked better and gave her attention came into her life and she needed a reason to cheat on him so "the ick" was her excuse.

women operate on emotions and stability, so one day for whatever reason if a light switches, she'll decide you're not the one for her. any good that you've had will suddenly be forgotten. if you'd asked her 2 weeks ago before she met the dude in the elevator, she would have swore she was going to marry you, has never been happier.

after she switches, she feels as though she hasn't been happy with you for a long time and justify to herself that she never loved you.

hard to conceptualize but brings peace

[roastpuff]

What is solo living?

Has their own place without roommate/not living with parents presumably.

[Gerbs]

TBH, there is nothing wrong if you want to spend hundreds of dollars on a first date. I think it's when men expect to get something back in return -- nothing is guaranteed.

The issue is when you start date one at $100-200, and you see them weekly, that ends up being close to $600-800 depending on what you do. That's just for dinner, add activities, and weekend long trips.


I'm at this odd stage where there's 4 people that I've had good vibes with, but I have zero energy or desire to spend $$ on more than 1-2 dates a week, so now that I've given up, I'm getting max attention from all 4. Funny how dating works.

I also concluded if I'm not down to spend money on them, maybe I'm not into them like that? Probably cause some of them told me they prefer a 80-100 / 0-20 dynamic for paying for dates. and i have no capacity atm to want to plan dates like that.

Has their own place without roommate/not living with parents presumably.

basements are okay if you're 6'1+ and built like ohtani, otherwise cooked if you want a pretty girl

The problem is who they tell each other to aim for (top 1-3% of guys).

If you manage to find a girl who listens when you call out her bs, she's got a better head on her shoulders than most. Chances are, that one's a keeper. The ones who continue to be delusional in the current market will find themselves alone or doing IVF to have a baby on their own (I've got stories about this too).

single girls love keeping other single girls single

[HonestTea]

single girls love keeping other single girls single

Misery loves company lol

[BIC_BAWS]

I also concluded if I'm not down to spend money on them, maybe I'm not into them like that? Probably cause some of them told me they prefer a 80-100 / 0-20 dynamic for paying for dates. and i have no capacity atm to want to plan dates like that.

I realized that I don't mind spending some money on someone that I actually vibe really well with, ie. paying for brunch with no expectations to (she did cook me dinner so i guess it evens out?), picking them up and driving them everywhere, hanging out with them doing silly things (like shopping I normally hate shopping), holding their bags/jackets (weirdly it did not make me feel emasculated).

But it's when they *expect* a specific structured dynamic of 80-110 / 0-20, is when that pisses me off or when they expect that dynamic, right off the rip and I don't even know who tf you are LOL.

I also realized my AuDHD (internet diagnosis) has an impact on dating - I'm either 0 or 100. If I don't vibe with them, I'm bored and out. If I vibe with them, I'm down to be all in (and then also over invest lol). My problem is that I find it so difficult to find someone I vibe with. Tbh, all I want is someone who I can be shamelessly stupid and silly with, and not have glaring red flags LOL

[spoon.ek9]

there's a lot of good girls locally. and I think I could find one at any moment. as my friends would say, I'm only experiencing the delulu one's cause I'm tryna go for the prettiest girls. I will pay the price though :ilied: at least until I'm 32ish, then be more realistic



difficult in the sense that they want
- taller than them
- health/fit
- non smoker/vaping/occasional drug or weed / non excessive alcohol
- makes more than them masked as ambition
- car (optional if you live in DT)
- solo living (optional for some girls)
- provider + considerate + consistent


^
me?? I want a pretty girl who treats me well, family oriented, makes over $60K, then doesn't have to work after 40.

1. There was this 4'8 girl on Subtle Asian Dating that had 6'+ as a requirement. She got roasted in the comments lol. Girl is almost legally considered a midget but she absolutely has to have a guy that tall, no exceptions. Other girls of course tried to defend her saying she can have whatever expectations she wants but the problem generally is that women don't think what men want is important or a factor at all. IE, I can expect the world, YOU should be thankful anyone wants to be with you at all.

2. Very often they want a man who is fit/physically active while they themselves could be 20-50lbs overweight. I shit you not, this is common. Just shows how obvious the double standard is.

3. Absolutely insisting on the man making more money than her is how they try to weed out those who are "beneath" them. In reality, if someone makes the same money as you, you are equal. But girl math will tell you, no that means you're less than her. All the talk about being independent and "I don't need no man" but when it comes time to pay the bill? Yeah, you better be paying 80-100% of everything at all times.

4. Always asking for traditional aspects of a man in a relationship while they themselves are free to hoe around with zero accountability. They'll tell you things like body count doesn't matter because in the end they chose YOU :rofl: This is an actual quote from my co-worker. She contradicted herself because right before that comment she was agreeing with me how neither one of us were the type to sleep around with a high number of partners before finding the one.



Man, this shit never ends. There are so many more things I haven't told you guys about dating in the past 10 years. I'm in a long term relationship now but all of this is still fresh in my mind. I'm in the same boat as others, if this future marriage doesn't work out, I'd rather be on my own. I just want peace and a dog (or several dogs).

[Gerbs]

I realized that I don't mind spending some money on someone that I actually vibe really well with, ie. paying for brunch with no expectations to (she did cook me dinner so i guess it evens out?), picking them up and driving them everywhere, hanging out with them doing silly things (like shopping I normally hate shopping), holding their bags/jackets (weirdly it did not make me feel emasculated).

But it's when they *expect* a specific structured dynamic of 80-110 / 0-20, is when that pisses me off or when they expect that dynamic, right off the rip and I don't even know who tf you are LOL.


The expectation throws me off too, I love the illusion of me providing but it's okay if I don't. It's so weird :awwyeah:

Maybe it's because in the back of my mind, if I stop paying for shit they'll leave, idk. Also maybe it's the lack of reciprocity

[BIC_BAWS]

I love the illusion of me providing but it's okay if I don't. It's so weird :awwyeah:

This.

Also maybe it's the lack of reciprocity

And this.

Reciprocity is nice tho. Never had a girl offer to cook for me after hanging out all day. That was nice xD

LOL sometimes I think I like the illusion/appearance/attention of dating more than actually dating.

[EvoFire]

This.



And this.

Reciprocity is nice tho. Never had a girl offer to cook for me after hanging out all day. That was nice xD

LOL sometimes I think I like the illusion/appearance/attention of dating more than actually dating.

Do you also like the illusion of sex more than actual sex? :considered::derp::troll:

[spoon.ek9]

The expectation throws me off too, I love the illusion of me providing but it's okay if I don't. It's so weird :awwyeah:

This is a lie, they'll drop you so fast if you don't pay or for many, even suggesting they pay half is a "red flag".


Maybe it's because in the back of my mind, if I stop paying for shit they'll leave, idk. Also maybe it's the lack of reciprocity

To be fair, some of them will eventually reciprocate but large majority of them insist that YOU prove yourself first and then MAYBE down the line they will do something in return. The worst ones will think they don't have to reciprocate at all. I'll never forget this one girl on a podcast when asked "what do you bring to the table?" and her reply was "my presence". She was dead serious.

[BIC_BAWS]

Do you also like the illusion of sex more than actual sex? :considered::derp::troll:

Sometimes the convenience of my hand is better

[Gerbs]

Just got off a long convo with one of the girls. tldr; she expects guys to be 90-100/0 until they date and then she'll contribute 30%

Which is kinda funny because everyone I've dated longterm showed 30-60% effort, I cuffed and was happy to shift to 80/20. She got it backwards haha.



//////////

Side note, i'm honestly confused as to what to even look for in terms of recipriocity, effort or gratitude in this dating phase. Girls put so much more effort when they were 20-25, wtf is wrong with 27+ market, my older girl friends said they're all tired and damaged, then told me to date younger :pokerface:


Also noted that one girl was said thank you so many times, I was shook, specific thank you's made me feel like they valued my effort
- "thank you for booking the ticket, I didn't know Vancouver even had this"
- "thank you for driving, to the venue, dinner, home, 3x wtf?"
- "thanks for dinner, I love chinese food"
- "thanks for snacks, you're so sweet"

vs
a shy quick "tenk you" on the way out, the bar is low

[Badhobz]

Thank you for destroying my ass! Thank you thank you

[supafamous]

https://www.reddit.com/r/askvan/comments/1rdz720/how_do_you_date/

Somebody here posting on Reddit about dating? Another thread asking how people date.

[AstulzerRZD]

my older girl friends said they're all tired and damaged, then told me to date younger :pokerface:

low key they got played cuz they didn't have the social aptitude to lock down the man they want - now they guarded af

everyone I've dated longterm showed 30-60% effort, I cuffed and was happy to shift to 80/20. She got it backwards haha.


Low key every girl who ain't playing is bringing small little gifts to me on 2nd/3rd date - they aren't in "logical, I got played so now i'm thinking about numbers" mode like the bitter ones are.

My general principle is that it's not about any specific number. Both people should make their interest and 'choosing' of the other person kinda clear because it's no fun to be on a date where both people aren't "running towards each other".

for example, on 1st date? If I do planning and get meal/drinks - she should offer to get the dessert at the 2nd spot when i decline her offer to help with the meal.

"thank you for driving, to the venue, dinner, home, 3x wtf?"
this is such a green flag because the effort/contribution gap gets far worse when we do step into the provider role and deal with more bs around the house in the future. also shows she respects your time

that said, some girls are different and afraid of expressing their appreciation. doesn't mean i have to be ok with it tho.

[Badhobz]

stop saying low key you fucking low key muppet. HIGH KEY HIGH KEY !

[68style]

Y’all looking at the wrong type of girls, long nails fake lashes get the “Ew.” face when anything involving effort comes up?

Haaaaaard pass let the 60+ year old divorced dudes with $$$ fuck with those ones.

[EvoFire]

Would it be a red flag if I asked them to go brunch with no makeup on for like a 3rd date?

[AstulzerRZD]

gotta find the ones with more cuffed friends than single friends
when they be listening to their perpetually single friends, its' a bad time

[AstulzerRZD]

Would it be a red flag if I asked them to go brunch with no makeup on for like a 3rd date?

If u got the figure for it, take her on a pool or surf date

[68style]

Evo already planning his divorce escapades???

[Acura604]

Online Dating Story #1

chatted with some woman for a few weeks... she's out in east abbotsford... decided to meet up at moxies 200th/hwy 1 area -

she was ALOT older in person - wrinkles everywhere (fkin filters hide dat shit) - wasn't interested so i let her know that. she got angry - real angry..saying stupid shit like "well what are you afraid of? i'm a good loving person i would treat you good...i wish i never met you!" had to block her. ..fckin bipolar freak!!!


(more stories coming)

[BIC_BAWS]

My friend got the ick from her bf over the holiday season, apparently he was being too feminine/clingy for her - they're LDR and she would just be turned off by the things he does or how he behaves when he visits. So she starts flirting with another man - "for fun" / "it was harmless" she says. Fast forward to the day before Valentine's, she made out with this man in the elevator, hooked up with him multiple times throughout the night/next day, and then breaks up with her bf on valentine's day. Fast forward some more, the now-ex-bf wanted closure and asked if she even feels sad, she puts on an act and then gaslight herself into being sad. Then went to a therapist who used therapy words to label her behavior and let her avoid accountability. Ironically, this bf is the guy she starting flirting with, when she was in her last (albeit abusive) relationship. And while all this is happening, her ex-bf from like 20 years ago drops in with a msg/email/dm every now and then for last 20 years while she's in other r/s... idk why (well I know why) she doesn't just no contact and block/ignore him on everything. "Judgement free-zone" but I called her a whore and told her there's a pattern of lacking accountability.

I realized that I don't mind spending some money on someone that I actually vibe really well with, ie. paying for brunch with no expectations to (she did cook me dinner so i guess it evens out?), picking them up and driving them everywhere, hanging out with them doing silly things (like shopping I normally hate shopping), holding their bags/jackets (weirdly it did not make me feel emasculated).

So this is the same chick and my friends were like "hard launch?" and my initial reaction is HELL NO, this chick is a walking red flag and she would fucking ruin me more than a SMG E60 M5. This is retard meets retard, it'd be like dating myself.

But my other (female) friend started to gas light me into thinking more about it - that IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THAT - dating yourself. So I'm like but you'd have to be attracted to them first right? Apparently, not LOL.

And then I gas lit myself into thinking about it.. that it's really nice getting to be silly and unrelentlessly goofy with someone. And that for once, I actually feel seen. I can't really describe our dynamic aside from we're just shamelessly stupid with each other since there's no judgement whatsoever, and I wouldn't ever act this retarded with anyone else. Even with the boys, I always have a wall or two up.

Is this what "slow burn" looks like??

Ngl, I had so much fun taking her out and taking care of her, and just having a good time together. It beats all the other dates, whom I just don't vibe - like that with.

The other night when I was over, she asked me if a certain picture was sexy, from a man's perspective and I didn't want to answer cause I didn't want to think of her that way (I said iunno you're not my type LOL - bitch is flat as a board) - can't go back after that.

Aside from the above glaring red flags, it would also be really messy cause it would put our mutual friend in a difficult position (who is an informal therapist for both of us lol) and we're both very involved with our mutual friend's kid's life. But otoh, if it worked out, it'd already be perfect :clown:

Anyway, since this chick would FUCKING RUIN ME, I think imma go take a trip to Campbell River to go bang this viet chick to get my mind off this LOL. Also have a trip planned for South Korea next month (work trip), so gonna be hitting up shawties there too. I moved my Hinge location to Seoul, and I instantly got 4-5 "likes" from the equivalent of Vancouver 7/8s LOL. It's wild.

[68style]

Can’t wait for the next $1000 drink bill night!

[Badhobz]

uhhhh.... ummm.... would be easier if you guys all turned into fags. way less drama.

[roastpuff]

I think you are mistaken in that belief. Same sex relationships are WAY more dramatic lol.

[supafamous]

I think you are mistaken in that belief. Same sex relationships are WAY more dramatic lol.

https://beam-images.warnermediacdn.com/2026-01/SCRID-23019645,23019653_HeatedRivalry_R1_3840x2160_LAN-en-US_PUR-tileburnedin.jpg?host=wbd-dotcom-drupal-prd-us-east-1.s3.amazonaws.com

[BIC_BAWS]

Can’t wait for the next $1000 drink bill night!

It's a good thing we don't drink. But this chick would ruin me way more than that chick holy fuck lol

[CivicBlues]

You guys should just wait it out a few more years and become robo-sexuals. Just one big upfront cost!

https://i.redd.it/wl0u8nse1x271.jpg

[BIC_BAWS]

Well seeing that Elon is already making robots... and ppl on the internet have their own clawbots as their "gfs".. the world is doomed.

[yray]

man, just get a rich divorced chinese chick with a daughter and call it a day

[Badhobz]

I think you are mistaken in that belief. Same sex relationships are WAY more dramatic lol.

you know this from first hand experience? :pokerface:

man, just get a rich divorced chinese chick with a daughter and call it a day

that ferrari chick at my gym (whos been missing MIA for the past 6 months) fits that category. Thats the type gerbs should go for.. i mean looking the way he does, i dont know why he has problems. If i looked like that, id be the biggest hebitch manwhore you've ever seen. Id probably get these bitches to buy me ferraris and pateks.

[AstulzerRZD]

Intensity without stability creates strong attraction and strong risk at the same time.
Kinda sounds like the E46s :^)

[Gerbs]

https://www.reddit.com/r/askvan/comments/1rdz720/how_do_you_date/

Somebody here posting on Reddit about dating? Another thread asking how people date.

There's a boom for social events like pickle, run and book clubs. apps are 80% less traffic

honestly single ppl around 23-33 sound pretty lonely these days

[Gerbs]

Y’all looking at the wrong type of girls, long nails fake lashes get the “Ew.” face when anything involving effort comes up?

Haaaaaard pass let the 60+ year old divorced dudes with $$$ fuck with those ones.

who said you can't hit them a handfull of times in your 20's and not marry them :lawl:


It's like buying the 911, way more fun in your 20s, than 60s

[RabidRat]

uhhhh.... ummm.... would be easier if you guys all turned into fags. way less drama.

LOL my wife said something like this yesterday when I told her about this thread.

"I have an idea. What if all you RS guys just went gay and dated each other. Problem solved, where's my prize."

[Gerbs]

Thats the type gerbs should go for.. i mean looking the way he does, i dont know why he has problems. If i looked like that, id be the biggest hebitch manwhore you've ever seen. Id probably get these bitches to buy me ferraris and pateks.

i have a too many choice problem, waiting to mature to a phase where pretty girls have no effect on me

[UnknownJinX]

LOLWUT?! That could totally have been your "Auntie, I don't wanna work hard anymore" moment! (Please google 阿姨，我不想努力了 if you dunno what I'm talking about :lol )

You could go that route, but you better have your body ready anytime. And I mean anytime.

Some of these aunties are also into some freakish stuff. Sure you will be able to afford Porsches pretty quickly, but it might not matter since it will hurt when you sit in them... Or sit on any surfaces, for that matter.

[Traum]

A little soreness sitting down on surfaces sounds like an acceptable trade to get myself into a high end Porsche~ :badpokerface:

[Gerbs]

would do a lot worse for less aka a honda

[UnknownJinX]

Well seeing that Elon is already making robots... and ppl on the internet have their own clawbots as their "gfs".. the world is doomed.

Yeah it can get pretty messed up. Apparently some women are getting mad that GPT40 was being retired, which they genuinely treat as a partner because GPT40 was so much of a yesman. (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crl43dxwwy9o)

A little soreness sitting down on surfaces sounds like an acceptable trade to get myself into a high end Porsche~ :badpokerface:

I dunno if it will be just a little when they start scrubbing balls with scrubbing balls.

Speaking of leading, it's extremely ironic that they want a man who leads but you also can't tell them what to do lol.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/WLNb0xsym_QAAAAd/the-office-lead.gif

[bcrdukes]

Given how this thread has evolved (and exploded beyond its original intention) I thought this article, written by Debra Soh, is not only relevant to our discussions, but covers a variety of themes that have surfaced throughout the last nine pages. I'm quite surprised that that themes we've discussed aren't just real, but they are researched.

For those of you who are parents, there are some interesting points that may be of interest to you. My caveat is take the article with a grain of salt, and use your own personal judgement.

Porn is making Gen Z anxious, lonely and insecure (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-gen-z-porn-harmful-effects-mental-health-sex-dating/) - The Globe & Mail

Debra Soh
Special to The Globe and Mail
Published 15 hours ago
For Subscribers

Debra Soh is a sex neuroscientist and the author of Sextinction: The Decline of Sex and the Future of Intimacy.

The average child today is exposed to pornography by the age of 12. (https://www.commonsensemedia.org/sites/default/files/research/report/2022-infographic-teens-and-pornography-research-eng-web_1.pdf) Roughly one in seven kids sees it by the age of 10 or younger.

Although a child’s initial exposure to porn is usually accidental, for many, porn viewing becomes habitual. By the age of 16, more than 70 per cent of boys are watching porn five times a week. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11160374/) Most of us would agree that exposure to adult content at a young age is not healthy. But what are the consequences, and how harmful are they?

More than half of Canadians were using the internet on a regular basis, by 2001 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/half-of-canadian-households-use-internet-regularly-1.328654), when the oldest members of Generation Z (born between 1997 and 2012) were only four years old. Before experiencing their first crush or kiss, this cohort of kids would become privy to the darkest recesses of the internet. As someone who was once a columnist for a well-known men’s magazine that featured nude women, I previously believed porn was harmless entertainment. But after conducting my own research (https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Sextinction/) more recently, I’ve realized the hazardous effects of porn are far-reaching, affecting not only young people’s dating and sex lives, but also, their mental health and broader well-being.

If a child regularly watches porn prior to their first sexual experience, this can shape their sexual preferences and behaviour. At its extreme, this has manifested as an increase in child-on-child sex crimes, with children victimizing their younger family members and peers. Of seven-to-11-year-olds in treatment for problematic sexual behaviours, 75 per cent of boys and 67 per cent of girls experienced early sexualization (https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=424b21a8-e82b-483e-a69d-a11fee613a59) through online porn. A report (https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/resource/a-lot-of-it-is-actually-just-abuse-young-people-and-pornography/) from Britain described how a 12-year-old boy strangled a girl during their first kiss because he saw it in porn and thought it was normal.

Indeed, porn has spawned an epidemic of violent sex, including sexual choking (also known as sexual strangulation), in adults’ sex lives. But while Millennial women have protested (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50546184) this abusive and potentially fatal act, many Gen Z women oblige. (https://www.businessinsider.com/choking-gen-z-sex-hookups-consent-assault-2022-10) In my opinion, porn exposure at a young age convinced Gen Z girls they have no choice but to like it. Adolescents who were raised on porn may believe this is how they must perform during sex to please their partner. For those who don’t want to, they may decide sex isn’t for them. In addition to corrupting young people’s sexual encounters, porn has the potency to replace them outright. Dating has been steadily on the decline among Gen Z; less than half (https://ifstudies.org/insights?id=3851) of high school seniors report ever going on dates in 2024, compared with nearly 90 per cent in the 1980s. Of young adults, less than a third are actively dating. (https://ifstudies.org/blog/todays-young-adults-are-in-a-dating-recession)

From a neuroscientific standpoint, porn activates the same brain regions that are involved during sexual activity. The viewer obtains sexual access on demand with an unlimited number of partners, while sidestepping any potential downsides of dating, including rejection, investing money and effort, and needing social skills so that the other person wants to sleep with you. The problem is that watching porn (and having an accompanying orgasm) sedates men and further disincentivizes them from working up the courage to meet women in real life, especially post-#MeToo. This further perpetuates their belief that sex with an imaginary partner on a screen is equivalent or preferable to the real thing. Pornography consumption is associated with negative body image (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1740144521000140) in both sexes, which can lessen their desire to interact with the opposite sex. The glorification of platforms like OnlyFans and the pornification of social media sites has additionally warped girls’ minds with messaging that hypersexualization is not only normative, but aspirational.

It’s a lot to live up to, and Gen Z women are pursuing cosmetic procedures, including breast augmentation (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36493360/) and labiaplasty (https://www.whv.org.au/training-and-resources/publications-and-submissons/real-bodies-understanding-and-celebrating-labia-library/), to emulate the figure of a porn star. And Gen Z men, not spared from this brainwashing, are driving the popularity of interventions like penis filler injections (https://www.ladbible.com/news/health/penis-filler-cosmetic-procedure-explained-gen-z-trend-132206-20251103) to increase the girth of their manhood so they more closely resemble male porn actors. In the realm of mental health, it’s well-documented that Gen Z suffers from anxiety (https://nationalsocialanxietycenter.com/2024/08/19/social-anxiety-in-generation-z/) and loneliness (https://filecache.mediaroom.com/mr5mr_thecignagroup/183661/2025-loneliness-in-america-report-the-cigna-group.pdf) more than any previous generation. Potential explanations for this have included parental safetyism, digital nativism, social media, and excessive screen time.

I would expect that porn plays a role in perpetuating Gen Z’s poorer mental health, as porn viewing can increase social isolation (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11160374/) and, in my research experience, is associated with poor coping skills, depression, and anxiety. This may seem bleak, but all is not lost. A growing number of Gen Zers are quitting porn with the goal of improving their productivity, self-discipline, and health. Men who have successfully cut porn out have told me doing so helped their self-esteem and renewed their motivation to pursue women they are interested in, in real life. If you are a young man (or woman) who is struggling, know that it may take several attempts to quit, but you can do it.

For parents of young children, it’s crucial to talk to your kids (https://www.commonsensemedia.org/articles/what-to-do-if-your-young-child-sees-pornography) about the dangers of porn before they encounter it. Nowadays, this likely means having conversations about sex and bodies much sooner than you had anticipated.

Once porn sites have hooked a child, they have a customer for life. Gen Z were lured into consuming this content without their understanding or consent, against a cultural backdrop that champions sexual permissiveness. In the coming years, we will continue discovering how this ongoing, worldwide experiment has moulded a generation of unsuspecting children in devastating ways.

[UnknownJinX]

I have some time to kill, so some random thoughts after going through the whole thread so far:

IMO, some of the criticism directed against girls can apply to both sides, like girls going for the top 10% of guys on dating platforms. Lots of guys would go for the top 10% of the girls as well (which is why that top 10% girls just need to swipe the likes they received), even though they are 2 or 3 themselves. Not trying to defend the delulu girls out there - I would avoid them as well, but there are guys that are delulu as well. Like for the guys that somehow thinks 8 likes are not enough, drop the phone and hit the gym, pick a hobby, etc. Focus on self improvement if you are having absolutely zero luck on the app and is desperate enough to keep paying.

Used to have a pretty hot HK coworker and there were times when she left for work, random people on Skytrain would hit on her, and even worse, there were creeps that actually followed and bugged her the whole way from work to the Skytrain station.

App has its problems, of course, but one thing that's good about it is that people are generally on there to date. There are the delulu ones that just want the attention, of course, but one thing that can be awkward with IRL is figuring out if someone is single (there can be clues but it's not always clear), and beyond that, if someone is just overly friendly with you without actually wanting to date (intentionally or unintentionally). People can go on apps to cheat as well, but if that happens, or you just don't vibe with the girl, you do have the option of just ghosting. I have chatted with a girl before that basically had 0 EQ, and when she crossed the line, I just stopped chatting with her. If you got to know someone IRL at a hobby club or something and it doesn't work out, it's awkward unless one of you drop out, and people in that circle might start gossiping. Pros and cons for each approach, really just depends on the style. I tend to over-worry so IRL is tricky for me, but I am not rejecting that possibility entirely, either.

I can see porn as a factor (thanks for getting past the paywall for us!), but another one is that some of us come from divorced parents ourselves, so our views of love/relationship can be a bit different. I have a girl friend I chat with often that comes from a divorced family like me. She is in an LTR but she pretty much said she doesn't believe in love, really, and sees it a means to an end. I personally am just a lot more cautious about relationships since I wouldn't want my future kids to go through what I had to.

[spoon.ek9]

gotta find the ones with more cuffed friends than single friends
when they be listening to their perpetually single friends, its' a bad time

From my own personal experience, married girls do not tend to give good advice to their single friends either lol. There are so many of them who say things like "just marry someone rich, at least you'd be comfortable" which is direct shade at their husbands. Never mind that he (likely) busts his ass to provide for you and your family, he's just not as good as the lifestyles you see provided to rich people on your social media feeds!

Even my own female friends, some of which I truly respect and care about have awful, awful advice when it comes to dating. I mentioned this in another thread but once I stopped listening to advice from girls, things got better. There's a saying out there along the lines of don't ask the fish how to catch them and it's pretty true. They all meant well but they made my situation worse more often than not. I cannot tell you how many times I was told it was entirely my fault that things weren't working with the girls I were interested in despite it being the advice they themselves gave me.

Now, to Jinx's point, yes of course men can be absolutely awful when it comes to dating. They're the ones that ruin it for the rest of us who are genuinely good guys looking for LTR. You've got guys who cheat, guys who lie about everything, creeps, weirdos, stalkers, and the ones who are truly violent and horrible human beings. A girl has to navigate their away around all of this and it can be horrifying.

But the thing is, if they're attracted to an asshole then choose to marry the asshole, they can't complain that he's an asshole. YOU chose this dude, you KNEW what he was before you got married. More than likely it's because he was handsome/tall/wealthy that you thought you could change him or at least accept his behaviour. This goes back to choosing those "top tier" men and thinking they'll be faithful to you. These men have hordes of women throwing themselves at him. Marriage doesn't mean shit to the girl who's trying to steal your man or at least get some perks out of a fling.

[twitchyzero]

re: knowing or not knowing what you married into

time passed so fast when i watched this haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEyaPYosnMM

[Hehe]

Oh well, I guess the good thing of being a dude in the dating scene is that we usually have some advantage as we age assuming one is not a total weirdo or fuck'd up

Take my good buddy/former partner in crime as an example.

He failed his first marriage. Ex took their Van West condo and they share custody of the kiddo while he got to keep his investment (our company) and some other small shit. I guess it was ok since supposedly they went 50/50 on the mortgage although he put more DP. But it saved the hassle of having to come up with a valuation for the shares he owned in the company.

One of the main reason of the failed marriage was because he was so focused in developing his career.

Then he ended up marrying one of our employees who started at our firm right after university. The girl was beautiful and was (I learned later on) the sole child of a big landlord in TW.

Now he just manage the RE portfolio for his IL and live happily ever after? :fuckthatshit:

[EvoFire]

re: knowing or not knowing what you married into

time passed so fast when i watched this haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEyaPYosnMM

That was a fun listen.

[supafamous]

https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10681224
https://x.com/rt_com/status/2026969728896664008?s=46

The number of social media followers of a woman suspected of serial murder surged after her face was revealed online, with some users even expressing sympathy for her, local media reported Tuesday.

The suspect, a woman in her 20s surnamed Kim, was sent to prosecutors in custody on Feb. 19 on charges of murder, aggravated bodily injury and violations of the Narcotics Control Act. She is accused of providing drug-laced hangover remedies to three men at a motel in Seoul’s Gangbuk district between December and Feb. 9. Two of the men died and one was injured.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HCE-OYSboAAylu4?format=jpg&name=large

Would.

[Badhobz]

black widow....

yah, she can murder me no problem. murder me with your ass!!! suffacate maaaahhh facceeeeeeeeee

[RabidRat]

:lol wth

[68style]

re: knowing or not knowing what you married into

time passed so fast when i watched this haha



I LOL'd so hard when he pulled the "Is alimony fair?" question out and said "I've argued yes and I've argued no depending on who's paying me" hhahahaha I love this guy

[supafamous]

:lol wth

Can't tell if it's the murdering or the fact that Hobz and I would still sleep with her that's got you concerned.

[bcrdukes]

I'm with RabidRat on this one.

This Modern Dating thread has definitely taken quite the u-turn. :D Reflecting back on the Globe and Mail piece by Debra Soh, her article definitely sheds some light on how you guys have come to your preferences. :p

[68style]

She did say she only murdered the ones who crossed her... so just don't cross her and you're okay? :badpokerface:

[punkwax]

She did say she only murdered the ones who crossed her... so just don't cross her and you're okay? :badpokerface:

She’s a woman. Good fuk’n luck with that.

[68style]

Just keep a bouquet of flowers on you at all times to whirl around with and present to her!

Keep her cross-eyed with the D and crossed up with performative affection and you're golden! Also, make your own drinks when she's around.

[Gerbs]

Can't tell if it's the murdering or the fact that Hobz and I would still sleep with her that's got you concerned.

it bothers me that older married men still get jaded by pretty girls

does it ever end??????

[Badhobz]

end? it'll end when you become a eunich. you wanna become a eunich? all your female problems goes away.

any heterosexual male with 1 or more sperms swimming around in his nutsack will be jaded by bitches. Look at the hamsup lo's on epstines list. All old as fuck. You can be 70+ and you still wanna bone.
You can be a huge bitch ass nerd like bill gates but when those russian hookers with infected cunts come wiggling their asses in your face, you'll eat that like its free ice cream.

dont matter if youre broke or stinking rich. dudes gotta bone.

[supafamous]

it bothers me that older married men still get jaded by pretty girls

does it ever end??????

Never. I appreciate God's art and always will. We're not dirty old men, we're art aficionados.

[68style]

I was talking to my friend who has to look after his uncle, the guys is 90 and has dementia and currently his biggest challenge is keeping his uncle off Instagram cuz he keeps scrolling through all the girlies liking their photos and making comments.

Good to know that part of the brain never dies lol

[Badhobz]

thats awesome! ... when im a drooling, complete basket case retard, ill still have a boner and still eye fucking all these women.

[spoon.ek9]

reminds me of the clip of some grandpa eating dim sum with his wife while watching porn lol

we've also caught some patients watching porn in emerg too

[bcrdukes]

:suspicious:

Man, if I'm in emergency and in pain, waiting to be seen by a nurse/doctor, the last thing I want to do is watch porn. Why do people do this? :seriously:

[roastpuff]

re: knowing or not knowing what you married into

time passed so fast when i watched this haha

Wow that is a great video

[Badhobz]

reminds me of the clip of some grandpa eating dim sum with his wife while watching porn lol

we've also caught some patients watching porn in emerg too

That be me in a few years… or a few weeks.

[unit]

I was talking to my friend who has to look after his uncle, the guys is 90 and has dementia and currently his biggest challenge is keeping his uncle off Instagram cuz he keeps scrolling through all the girlies liking their photos and making comments.

Good to know that part of the brain never dies lol

they should definitely make him a new account specifically for that lol

[spoon.ek9]

Next meet will be at dim sum and we'll all suspiciously sit on one side of the table opposite of our significant others :suspicious:

[GS8]

it bothers me that older married men still get jaded by pretty girls

does it ever end??????


From master dating to masturbating :accepted:

[Gerbs]

damn gooners till the day we die, thought if I date enough pretty girls, I'll be immune

[BIC_BAWS]

Well at a certain age, pretty girls become not pretty, and pretty girls are just younger girls, which is endless as you keep aging

[Badhobz]

This is how you end up on Epstein island

[UnknownJinX]

:suspicious:

Man, if I'm in emergency and in pain, waiting to be seen by a nurse/doctor, the last thing I want to do is watch porn. Why do people do this? :seriously:

Gives you the will to keep living, I suppose.

This is probably scientific, too.

[BIC_BAWS]

Gives you the will to keep living, I suppose.

Do they stop living when they bust?

[Traum]

Somehow all this Epstein talk is reminding me how much of a saint Leo (DiCaprio) is. Pick them up at 18. Set them free at 25. Rinse and repeat. :fuckyea:

[spoon.ek9]

have you heard about girls calling 18-21 year olds minors?