Starcraft 2 beta by end of 07

[vl_86]

^^

If your zerg, an early roach rush will easily counter that, the only way to stop a roach rush is if you get immortals

[DuhDang]

Originally Posted by AhXian

this will not work in gold or higher. you will be long dead before you can get carriers out

I was in gold before the reset, ive just been playing custom games so its totally random who your playing against.

[AhXian]

i have 3 teams in plantium, 2 of them are in top 20 rank in their div.
In platinum vs platinum match, when your protoss in a 2v2, and the opponent has a terran.
you HAVE to get a stalker out ASAP.
if you make more than 2 zealot first, 8 rax reaper will just rape you, and this will happen in every game.

of course the hardest match up for a protoss player in 2v2 is vs. a zerg/terran team because you don't know if the zerg will 10pool you or the terran will 8rax reaper.

[Lissy]

i have the beta key, already playing online.

TO BE HONEST. it sucks..... really suck. I don't know why it took them so long to release it, its basicly the regular starcraft units plus a few more.

They turned the old starcraft into a warcraft style play, no big deal graphics suck. Same old shit, seriously dissapointing.

[DuhDang]

Originally Posted by Lissy

i have the beta key, already playing online.

TO BE HONEST. it sucks..... really suck. I don't know why it took them so long to release it, its basicly the regular starcraft units plus a few more.

They turned the old starcraft into a warcraft style play, no big deal graphics suck. Same old shit, seriously dissapointing.

This is what I thought at first but when I started playing more it started growing on me. But I still don't get why it took forever to release

[Underdawg]

Originally Posted by Lissy

i have the beta key, already playing online.

TO BE HONEST. it sucks..... really suck. I don't know why it took them so long to release it, its basicly the regular starcraft units plus a few more.

They turned the old starcraft into a warcraft style play, no big deal graphics suck. Same old shit, seriously dissapointing.

Graphics doesnt mean anything nowadays. The original SC was near impossible to top, but this is a worthy sequel for sure. Blizzard just spent too much time developing stuff for WOW. It was a damn long time but it sure beats those mediocre annual releases of Command & Conquer.

Like it or not, I am sure for the next 5 years this will be the top multiplayer game in the world unless some other company can make another super crazy game. (really doubtful)

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by DuhDang

Ive found a setup with protoss that almost wins everygame. Depending on your partner if he can do SOMETHING and is not a total noob. Start off regular setup with 2 gateways rush with 4 zealots.
Make cybernics core(sp?) and 3rd gateway and upgrade warp gates.
KEEP pressure with units (depending what their build is). HARASS THE SHIT OUT OF THEM.
while doing this make stargates and pump carriers and and a mothership. If you get 3-5 carriers and a mothership, you pretty much won the game.
and if your carriers do die cuz their massing anti air units, just get dark templars GG

i duno what class you're in man, but that shit don't even work for silver.

mid to high bronze and silver+ your opponents rush just as fast as you do, or slightly slower, but fast enough to defend against a 4 zealot rush.

i usually win by rushes, i can usually get 1 zealot into their base before they get their first warrior out if they're slightly slower. but usually it doesn't work. you just have to out resource/micro them.

most games end in 4-10min for me. anything that goes above 10min means we're pretty much equally matched.

My problem is still against mass marine marauders and medivacs (when they get them) early game. im always protoss and i don't really know what to do.

I can't get psystorm or collosi cuz that's too far into the game. by that time they already have so many men they can just outgun my forces.

immortals are good against marauders but now when backed up with tons of marines and medivacs. speed zealots are good too but either way i have no idea what the fuck to do. it sucks. only way is if i keep pressuring them from start to end so they lag behind in economy.

[JHuJHu]

I think im addicted i didn't like playing ladder in sc1 but sc2 changed my ways.

[quasi]

Originally Posted by Mr.Campo

I think im addicted i didn't like playing ladder in sc1 but sc2 changed my ways.

LOL it's all I play. I don't even care about the rank really I just want to try and win a game at a time or at least improve. I've probably player 120 ranked 2v2 matches in the last 2 weeks split between random partners and friends. I only play terran, I haven't even tried any other races in probably 160 games including 1v1. Marine and Marauder rush usually works, if it gets to the point where I need to get air I win less then 50% of the time. I love when people try teching early because I'm just going to keep a stready stream of marines double pumping out of 3-4 barracks until there dead.

[quasi]

Originally Posted by Lissy

i have the beta key, already playing online.

TO BE HONEST. it sucks..... really suck. I don't know why it took them so long to release it, its basicly the regular starcraft units plus a few more.

They turned the old starcraft into a warcraft style play, no big deal graphics suck. Same old shit, seriously dissapointing.

I think the games great. They took what made it one of the best games ever made and slightly improved it without taking any of the things people loved away. Having lower requirements allows them to sell to a larger demographic. They always take for ever with every development but Blizzard pretty much never gets it wrong. If you don't like it you're in the huge minority guaranteed.

[Jackwimmer]

im currently ranked #1 in my 2v2 platinum division, i think the game is easy

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

yeah? teach us!

[DuhDang]

I don't know about you guys but I win by pressure, pressure and more pressure. I harass the opposing players nonstop. A lot of people suck at microing and I win really fast or they just leave. Carriers are always fun though

[SpuGen]

Some fag just buried his CC in the corner of the map.
And finished me off with his last BC. So fucking gay.

[Jackwimmer]

hmm well ive really only played for about 1 week and i easily hit platinum, it might be because my partners are really good but im also top 5 in random 2v2 platinum
judging from the posts here it appears u guys are like relying too much on teching or something...i have only used carriers like twice for fun

i think the key is micromanagement, knowing what the other guy is doing, MASSING and expanding, confidence and other things
i dont know how to really explain it but i believe u guys have played games like wc3 and i think sc2 is somewhat similar, albeit with different units
one huge factor is control, i feel most of the time that i know what's going to happen...though i find it strange i feel this way despite only playing 75 games (all in 1 week *blush*

i usually use protoss and the things that u can do is build ur base properly, and if theyre attacking u, u must warp sentry's to block ur base to buy time (this is 2on2)
u MUST change ur strategy to counter your opponent as well, this is HUGE, u cannot just sit there and say Oh if i get my carriers i win, it doesnt work that way, ALWAYS counter ur opponent
thats all that i can say so far after playing a week lol >< hope that helped

[Jackwimmer]

oh and i dont use the double gateway zealot strategy, i used this build order ive seen the better players use, where u get only 1 gateway and a cybernetics to start, i noticed i can easily defend some cheesy zealot rush with like a few zealots and stalkers, just keep going back and forth with the stalkers or block off the incoming zealots and let the stalkers shoot
an early stalker also defends the lame reaper rush, i dont even know why its considered that big of a problem, cause once u get ur first stalker out, they really cant do anything...worst case, use ur probes and surround! (M key is surround, if uve played wc3!)

oh and if u guys have any questions, my user id is ArMaNi.DeMo
edit: feel too vague
another advice i have to give is that u should force urself to change ur game completely if u notice ur losing a lot, clearly ur doing something wrong if ur losing, it's like anything else in life(excuse the analogy), don't be those people that keeps repeating the same thing if it doesn't work
i noticed when i changed my build orders and unit selections that i immediately became a different player, listen to what people tell u to do (in this case my partner is an aggressive 1on1 player), in a mere few days i think because of adjustments there has been vast improvements, but there is clearly plenty of holes in my game, hopefully i learn more as i go on
i.e. i had a difficult time dealing with speed lings, but i noticed buying time with sentry's and kiting with stalkers if i can helps a little
p.s.
i should probably admit that i used to play wc3 a lot, ive played guys like showtime.werra and the professional poker player ELKY when he used to be a pro gamer, that might be why i was able to adapt faster even though i still feel like i suck at this game

[Ch28]

It just pisses me off how they changed some of the quick key shortcuts around

[quasi]

Originally Posted by SpuGen

Some fag just buried his CC in the corner of the map.
And finished me off with his last BC. So fucking gay.

I've done that before but all I had left was 3 banshees, funny shit when it's happening.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by SpuGen

Some fag just buried his CC in the corner of the map.
And finished me off with his last BC. So fucking gay.

Originally Posted by quasi

I've done that before but all I had left was 3 banshees, funny shit when it's happening.

LOL yesterday, he had 1 void ray, and i have 3 zealots left. he kept making nexuss everywhrere and i killed em all but he had ONE left and i couldnt find it in time. fuckin lame.
he killed off my 2 zealots while i watched him just fly around looking for my last building. haha

[AhXian]

the ladder is fuked up right now, plantium is really easy at least in 2v2... basically once you get in(which isn't hard, you just have to win 5 games in placement match vs noobs), you can't get out unless you really suck...because in everygame im in, im always unfavoured.
If i win i get 25+ points per game, and if i lose i lose like 3 point. The system is bugged because i have never found a game where the my team was favoured.
So i started to check the other players profile and surprise!! most team i fight, their team is in either silver or gold, and they are favoured while im rank 20 in platinum....

[ChaKo]

yeah, its easy to be top in your division granted you have the time to play enough games. youd have to lose four for every one win to even lose points on a consistent basis.

[SSM_DC5]

is there a way to whisper your friends while your playing?

[Graeme S]

Originally Posted by SSM_DC5

is there a way to whisper your friends while your playing?

Friends or allies?

[SSM_DC5]

friends, who are not in the same game as you.

[DuhDang]

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma

LOL yesterday, he had 1 void ray, and i have 3 zealots left. he kept making nexuss everywhrere and i killed em all but he had ONE left and i couldnt find it in time. fuckin lame.
he killed off my 2 zealots while i watched him just fly around looking for my last building. haha

I have a replay of me putting my CC in bottom left corner. It took them 2 hours to find it. I just minimized the game and went on RS LOL