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01-27-2003, 10:02 AM
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#2026 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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fuck thats too bad...
does that mean u drive a DaeWoo now?
I was gonna offer you like 17G i knew the past of the car two weeks ago 
you better be buying another one or something respectible..
p.s - nashman what are we waiting for?
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01-27-2003, 12:04 PM
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#2027 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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ok this may be shocker but he sold it to dealer ship for drum roll............................... 13000 hell i may have bean able to buy the car for that price
ps timpo why not try and sell it form your house or some thign you whould have goten at lest 20 and if you wanted ot get rid of it fast 18 any thing lower then you have lots of money to roll in or you stuck felt marker up your nose and took big sniff
not to be mean in away way but why dealer ship you just made the guys there happy as clam's caus ethey will sel it for around like 20 to 27 ball park
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01-27-2003, 01:03 PM
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#2028 | | I am Hook'd on RS
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| Quote: Originally posted by NashMan
not to be mean in away way but why dealer ship you just made the guys there happy as clam's caus ethey will sel it for around like 20 to 27 ball park | I think by now from all the responses he's got from the forums, he's starting to realize his mistake. But live and learn I guess 
Just don't make the same mistake next time.
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01-27-2003, 07:13 PM
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considering 4 salvage titles, 1 total theft record, 1 rebuilt title, the car didn't worth that much anyways I guess...
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01-27-2003, 10:28 PM
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#2030 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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i tell you some thign about poeple and cars
if car looks like it goes fast and looks really fast you think grampa is going to drive hell no
do you think some one around our age will 18 to 25 yes in hart beat and the funny part is some was lookign at that car will not really care abot it's passed as long as it run now and looks pretty
and if an audlt az in 45 to 50 driv eit there load and the kids left the house
oh and as long as the car has bean repaired by icbc and was done good job and not all bondo or to cars cut n half tye of deal then people will by it
hell look at my pos frist bought it whiht fucked up eninge had to rebuild eninge/clutch/full spention cause the facotry one one really old and worn out bought new gas tank cause old oen had hole drove aroudn fine for longest time /then i had ot get new clutch cause my p plate was defetive from facotory/ had to replace ignighter coil then disturbuter/ after that when tot go kill my tire so i chould get new set up up blew the crap out of my motor cracked wrist pin droped bolt off the main 2 or 3 spun bareings and dead oil pump/ thenbought turbo parts car took took out every thig i needed ran great after that then i had leakign head gasket on new motor 137 had to repalce/ the i got brake drag had ot repalce alot fo stuff off the brakes and such
had ot pull dash to fix my wireing harness case it bad shape buch of hops ups in the mean tiem then clutch blew up bought new one /now my wireing has to be pulled or fix again and my turbo is showing singh of dieing
what al of that miss spelt words and crap i didn't really want ot corret ti all just to give you an idea what happens when car nut get car his live and soul goes into it and doe snot car how much it brakes ect
ps i still can get good money for my car still know some one that wan to buy ti for 8500 but i wounte sell cause it s my baby
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92 Toyota supra highly modified (The ice cream will never have a chance to melt)
89 exo cage Toyota truck (so many gears to choose from)
I own nothing that is practical hahahaha
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01-27-2003, 11:17 PM
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#2031 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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look these are the facts.. the car looked good.. only a few little things.. the alarm needed to be re-wired and new hood otherwise good.. the body was straight and good.. and if it has a straight frame then your good to go.. there is no reason why the car wouldnt be sold more than what it was... who cares if it was broken into awhile back.. or was wrecked.. like said before if it was fixed properly then its ok.. its like buying someone else fully restored classic car from like the Barret Jackson auction.. if its done prefect you will get the money.. i guess it was not ment to be then anyways what are you thinking about buying? | |
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01-28-2003, 05:27 PM
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I am thinking of buying an NSX but I am not sure.
I would like to bring R32 Skyline GT-R as well...I don't know...I won't be driving any car for while.
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01-28-2003, 05:33 PM
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#2033 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Guys in Progressive said they can install 20B engine for approx $5,000. 20B costs approx $5,000 or so.
So labour+engine=should be $15,000 maximum.
3rd gen RX-7 costs approx $20,000
so $20,000+$15,000=$35,000
You can have 3rd gen RX-7 20B for approx $35,000.
Toyota Supra costs approx $40,000 to $45,000...
So 3rd gen RX-7 20B is approx $5,000 to $10,000 cheaper than Toyota Supra...
I think 20B RX-7 is pretty good deal...because I am pretty sure they can smoke NSX or Supra.
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01-28-2003, 05:34 PM
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BTW...I'm not getting a 20B RX-7 even I had money to spend $35,000 on a car...bad on gas...too dangerous.
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01-28-2003, 05:35 PM
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#2035 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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I used to wanna get a 20B for my car. I was pretty serious but I sold my car anyways.
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01-28-2003, 06:01 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Timpo
Guys in Progressive said they can install 20B engine for approx $5,000. 20B costs approx $5,000 or so.
So labour+engine=should be $15,000 maximum.
3rd gen RX-7 costs approx $20,000
so $20,000+$15,000=$35,000
You can have 3rd gen RX-7 20B for approx $35,000.
Toyota Supra costs approx $40,000 to $45,000...
So 3rd gen RX-7 20B is approx $5,000 to $10,000 cheaper than Toyota Supra...
I think 20B RX-7 is pretty good deal...because I am pretty sure they can smoke NSX or Supra.
(no offence to Supra or NSX fans)
| There are not many cars on the road that will be able to compete against a turboed 20B. But in any case, I don't know where you got those figures from, but they're way way way off!! If you talk to any REPUTABLE rotary race shop, you won't get such ridiculous numbers. There's alot more to making a 3 rotor work than just dropping in the engine.
Look at Peter Farrell, Pettit Racing, MVA, Staff's and other serious rotary shops that have made 500-800hp+ 20Bs. There is a reason why they are so rare....you could probably count all the ones in North America in your head. If it only did cost $15K to do the mod, everyone would be driving around in a 20B! The costs I've seen for these 20B conversions typically range between $40,000-$60,000 (not inlcuding the car)! A BIG difference from $15K, so there's definitely something up with that.
Apples and oranges, just like the difference between a guy who buys a cheap car and only spends money on cheap mods, and the guy who actually pays the money to buy a good car, and also pays the money to get good mods.
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01-28-2003, 08:06 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Timpo
Guys in Progressive said they can install 20B engine for approx $5,000. 20B costs approx $5,000 or so.
So labour+engine=should be $15,000 maximum.
3rd gen RX-7 costs approx $20,000
so $20,000+$15,000=$35,000
You can have 3rd gen RX-7 20B for approx $35,000.
Toyota Supra costs approx $40,000 to $45,000...
So 3rd gen RX-7 20B is approx $5,000 to $10,000 cheaper than Toyota Supra...
I think 20B RX-7 is pretty good deal...because I am pretty sure they can smoke NSX or Supra.
(no offence to Supra or NSX fans)
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I was actually talking to troy at progressive about this a couple weeks ago. First off the conversion itself with the engine will be well over $20,000. When i was living in Miami Pettit Racing charges approx. $27000 (US of course) for the conversion. Plus you still need all of the parts to support such a beast in the RX. With the intercooler, custom turbo setup, computer, new engine cradle, moving back the firewall, you will NOT have a 20B in an RX-7 for less than 50 thousand,,,,,minimum.
RP
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01-29-2003, 08:22 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by ForceFed93
I was actually talking to troy at progressive about this a couple weeks ago. First off the conversion itself with the engine will be well over $20,000. When i was living in Miami Pettit Racing charges approx. $27000 (US of course) for the conversion. Plus you still need all of the parts to support such a beast in the RX. With the intercooler, custom turbo setup, computer, new engine cradle, moving back the firewall, you will NOT have a 20B in an RX-7 for less than 50 thousand,,,,,minimum.
RP | oh really. when i asked him the price of installation, he told me 100hours x $50 labour. Well...that was like 4 or 5 month ago.
Tetsuro from Auto Project TA(PK Motorsports) told me that he can install it in 30 hours x $65 labour.
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01-29-2003, 08:37 AM
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#2039 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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| Quote: Originally posted by Timpo
Guys in Progressive said they can install 20B engine for approx $5,000. 20B costs approx $5,000 or so.
So labour+engine=should be $15,000 maximum.
3rd gen RX-7 costs approx $20,000
so $20,000+$15,000=$35,000
You can have 3rd gen RX-7 20B for approx $35,000.
Toyota Supra costs approx $40,000 to $45,000...
So 3rd gen RX-7 20B is approx $5,000 to $10,000 cheaper than Toyota Supra...
I think 20B RX-7 is pretty good deal...because I am pretty sure they can smoke NSX or Supra.
(no offence to Supra or NSX fans)
| whe you play the mod soung i i can make john deer tractor do wheel stand all the way down the track all it takes it money money money it just whepoepel buy slwo car and make em faster what gets me buy fast car from the start and then mod then you be doing wheels down the track at cheeper price
but the most coolest car i know of is buddy i talk to has 80 mrk 1 supra and he has 2jz poped in there whiht turbo turnetic's 2k turbo chager gest amet on power is close to liek 900 hp or some thing has not hit the dyno yet but get this ti will be he daily driver/fun car that weight in at 2700 pounds i think
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89 exo cage Toyota truck (so many gears to choose from)
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01-29-2003, 06:26 PM
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#2040 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
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Last I heard a full 20B conversion costs close to $30k.
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01-29-2003, 07:36 PM
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#2041 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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| Quote: Originally posted by EightTrack
Last I heard a full 20B conversion costs close to $30k. |  $20-$30k if you want it done right with no hack and cut jobs.300hp and 297 lbs ft of torque must be nice tho.  | |
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01-29-2003, 10:15 PM
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#2042 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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ok buy the engine 5G
buy a Haltech 2G
rebuild 4G
Install 2G and do the rest yourself.. pretty easy...
way less then 30G and spend the money on go good products..
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01-30-2003, 06:02 PM
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#2043 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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| Quote: Originally posted by bcty
ok buy the engine 5G
buy a Haltech 2G
rebuild 4G
Install 2G and do the rest yourself.. pretty easy...
way less then 30G and spend the money on go good products.. | Close.I know a guy in the states with a 20B T2.IT's around 6g's for the engine,2g's for haltech(Need the E11),$600-$1000 for twin oil coolers(needed),1g for twin high output fans,1g for IC and IC piping,around $500 for the 6 coils needed for direct fire.then the custom mounts and if you have a NA then you need a T2,flywheel,counterwieght and clutch that will hold the 300hp and 297lbs ft. of torque that beast puts out stock.In other words.....A SHITLOAD of $$$.
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01-30-2003, 06:03 PM
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#2044 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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And thats before a rebuild.
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01-31-2003, 11:39 PM
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All this talk about 20b rotary, what the hell??? Are any one of you going to step up, all of you think you know the cost but have you ever done one! I didn't think so. PROGRESSIVE is a true rotary performance shop. I take my 3rd gen RX there all the time with complete confidence, and apparently so do other people. If you want a straight answer and want to deal with someone who knows what the hell they are talking about as oppossed to someone talking out their ass… PROGRESSIVE is the place to go. Go see for your self. I rest my case…. Care to differ????
P.S. no matter what the cost, you would have to be deicated and I do not see that here!!! I have put well over 20 grand into my RX, a 20b at this time is out of sight..... As soon as one of you beat me light to light I will entertain the idea but as for now.... Show up or SHUT UP!!!!!! Progressive has my vote whether you like it or not!!!
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01-31-2003, 11:46 PM
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#2046 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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| Quote: Originally posted by RX007
All this talk about 20b rotary, what the hell??? Are any one of you going to step up, all of you think you know the cost but have you ever done one! I didn't think so. PROGRESSIVE is a true rotary performance shop. I take my 3rd gen RX there all the time with complete confidence, and apparently so do other people. If you want a straight answer and want to deal with someone who knows what the hell they are talking about as oppossed to someone talking out their ass… PROGRESSIVE is the place to go. Go see for your self. I rest my case…. Care to differ????
P.S. no matter what the cost, you would have to be deicated and I do not see that here!!! I have put well over 20 grand into my RX, a 20b at this time is out of sight..... As soon as one of you beat me light to light I will entertain the idea but as for now.... Show up or SHUT UP!!!!!! Progressive has my vote whether you like it or not!!! | Oh I see we have a new hot head in here.Do us a favor and DON'T BREED!I might doing a 20B First gen swap next winter.I have more than enough knowledge and know how then pay some idiots to do it for me.  | |
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01-31-2003, 11:55 PM
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#2047 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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It's either going to be a 20B swap or 13B-RE seeing as the Turbo I will be using will be either a T78 or the T04R.I'm more towards a 20B's torque myself.
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02-01-2003, 12:05 AM
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#2048 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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BCTY:I see Yardpig has 2 rotary engines for sale.A 13BT and 20B 3 rotor.Still want to do a T2 SA swap?He has everylittle thing included with the driveline:Engine,ECU harness' IC Tranny you name it hes including it.He wants 2000 obo for it.Your motor is worth about 1300.See if hell take your setup as a trade???Then you could have one fun project car. Damn I wish I had the money right now for the 3 rotor.They are hard to get in canada.I'm looking at getting one thru the states in fall.  Damn thats going to be a shipping bill! Why does Yardpig have it for sale right now.Couldn't he wait till then? | |
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02-01-2003, 12:15 AM
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I see where I may look a little hot headed.... Honestly I am not. I am just sick of everyone talking shite about stuff they know nothing about. Quotes are quotes. Finished product is always way more then originally quoted. Trust me I know. All I'm saying is Progressive knows their shite. I trust them.
If you are doing a 20B upgrade good on ya! I can not wait to see the finished product.
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02-01-2003, 12:29 AM
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#2050 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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| Quote: Originally posted by RX007
I see where I may look a little hot headed.... Honestly I am not. I am just sick of everyone talking shite about stuff they know nothing about. Quotes are quotes. Finished product is always way more then originally quoted. Trust me I know. All I'm saying is Progressive knows their shite. I trust them.
If you are doing a 20B upgrade good on ya! I can not wait to see the finished product. | I'm still tossing the Idea around.I want to see what yardpigs friend wants for his.I might see what the bank can arrange for me. I'll do the swap either way tho.I won't run it I don't think till I can get enough $$$ together for a T04R tho.I might try it on stock twins in non-seq mode.Need a Halteck E11 to run it with the new LT1 coils with built in ignitors to do a Direct Fire ignition. BCTY.Heres a site just incase you didn't bookmark it..... 12A-13BT
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