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11-02-2008, 10:33 AM
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#51 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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This will probably be the future of aircare. http://esp-global.com/RSD | 
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11-02-2008, 10:55 AM
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#52 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by monster killer  OH....I see now....thank you Quasi for the info.
Now I see why your so defensive when people are putting down aircare.
I hope you have a back up plan when your job goes away in a few years. | I don't know if he works there I was just asking him if he does.
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11-02-2008, 10:57 AM
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#53 | | Banned (ABWS)
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Originally Posted by quasi I don't know if he works there I was just asking him if he does. | He probably does work there,I have never seen anyone so "pro" aircare before.
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11-02-2008, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by monster killer ^ I think you really need to check out on why aircare was created in the first place.....and it wasn't becasue the government cared about the enviroment. | So... why was Aircare originally created, assuming it wasn't to help take dirty cars off the road.
You may hate Aircare, but it's one of the lesser evils around the world. Ontario's system is widely known to be highly unreliable, yet they continue with it. California has one of the world's strictest systems; one that will basically nail you to a crucifix if you install so much as a CAI.
I don't agree with a large part of how Aircare (and many other emission control systems) is run, but I don't doubt that they do some good, however little it is.
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11-02-2008, 12:33 PM
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No aircare in Victoria where I live.
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11-02-2008, 01:36 PM
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^thank you for that wonderful piece of insight.
i think aircare is horseshit too, but i don't want a system similar to cali.
i could put up with a mot style inspection as long as they don't check my emissions... =\
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11-02-2008, 03:43 PM
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#57 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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Yes this is from the aircare website, but atleast this is hard info on paper and not what you guys are making up. http://www.aircare.ca/aboutus-qa-all.php
Questions and answers. Again, up to you if you believe the facts or not
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11-02-2008, 03:56 PM
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#58 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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not that the fact that you should trust every comment made on here,
but why would you trust things written on their own website?
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11-02-2008, 04:54 PM
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#59 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by Quade No aircare in Victoria where I live. | This alone is proof that AirCare is not a "tax grab" - if it were, it would be province-wide. Instead, it's in effect ONLY IN THE GVRD... where, coincidentally, air pollution is worst (just ask anyone who lives in Chilliwack, where all of Greater Vancouver's collective emissions get funneled and trapped through most of the summer).
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11-02-2008, 09:31 PM
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#60 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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Originally Posted by Rikaro ^
not that the fact that you should trust every comment made on here,
but why would you trust things written on their own website? | well that's why i mentioned it was from their website, and if you believe it or not it's up to you.
Someone should just contact CTV News and i'm sure they'll be glad to do a report on it if they haven't done so already in the past.
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11-02-2008, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rikaro ^
not that the fact that you should trust every comment made on here,
but why would you trust things written on their own website? | What information on their website is not trustworthy?
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11-03-2008, 08:45 AM
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#62 | | Glorious Gaming PC Master Race
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11-03-2008, 09:11 AM
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#63 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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If you have your vehicle repaired at an AirCare Certified Repair Centre and the vehicle still fails its second inspection, your vehicle qualifies for a conditional pass. This will allow you to re-license and insure your vehicle for up to one year. Conditional passes allow motorists to defer the cost of expensive repairs over time instead of all at once, but not to indefinitely allow that vehicle to continue to operate with excess emissions.
If your vehicle fails its inspection and your repair shop indicated the defects that are not yet repaired, you should have these repairs done as soon as possible.
If your repair shop did not indicate that further repairs are required, you should return to the shop for a re-evaluation of your vehicle.
It is always recommended that motorists authorize complete repairs on their vehicle. A vehicle that has its emission system defects fully repaired rarely fails subsequent emissions inspections.
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11-03-2008, 09:41 AM
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#64 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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Originally Posted by monster killer The only thing that aircare helps is to fill the pockets of the people involved.
If aircare made such a huge difference to the enviroment,why is it not mandatory on the Island,Okanagan,nothern B.C & the Kooteny's,why just the lowermainland?
Also,why is aircare only limited to private vehicles and not commercial cars,vans,trucks and tractor trailors,why not motorcyles,lawnmowers,weed eaters,boats,farm equipment,trains and airplanes or anything that runs on gasoline,deisel or propane.
Like I said many times,aircare is just one big scam. | That was a good read, especially the points in bold. Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundy This alone is proof that AirCare is not a "tax grab" - if it were, it would be province-wide. Instead, it's in effect ONLY IN THE GVRD... where, coincidentally, air pollution is worst (just ask anyone who lives in Chilliwack, where all of Greater Vancouver's collective emissions get funneled and trapped through most of the summer). | Possibly because the monetary returns of a small town or rural community are not high enough to warrant implementing an aircare facility.
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11-03-2008, 10:19 AM
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#65 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Well, let's see... close to half of the province's population is concentrated in the GVRD, which covers, at a guess, less than 2% of the provincial land area... so yeah, maybe it's because there's FAR more pollution created in a FAR smaller area?
Tell ya what, next summer, after a few days of hot weather, you drive on out to Chilliwack, and then tell me the Lower Mainland doesn't have an emissions problem.
Oh, and "commercial" vehicles are not exempt. From the website: Quote:
The following exemptions are in effect during 2008:
* 2002 and newer model year vehicles
* Vehicles with vintage plates
* Motorcycles, snowmobiles, amphibious vehicles and ATVs
* Farm fleet and agricultural vehicles
* Motor homes with a net vehicle weight over 3500 kg.
* Vehicles with collector plates* (except new applications for collector status)
* Electric vehicles
* Hybrid vehicles
* Please Note: Vehicles are required to pass an AirCare inspection as a one-time condition of application for collector's designation.
| But of course, we shouldn't trust the info on their site, right?
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11-03-2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Soundy Tell ya what, next summer, after a few days of hot weather, you drive on out to Chilliwack, and then tell me the Lower Mainland doesn't have an emissions problem. | It does not matter what city you go to on this planet,every city has a polution problem,some are far worse than others.
The government should just be honest and tell people straight up they want more money,they should just cut the bullshit lies about clean air & all the enviroment bullshit and just make it easy for everyone and just add a extra $50 tax whenever a person needs to renew their insurance,this way,it would save alot of people the time,hassle & bullshit of taking time off just to take their car to aircare.
I don't know about you,but I have never seen a school bus,boat,motorhome,motorcycle or gas lawnmower being tested at aircare.
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11-03-2008, 10:44 AM
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#67 | | 14 dolla balla & Bradford Chow aint got nothing on me!
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dude 91 vehicles..should be able to pass easily.. my 92 accord did it with flying colors
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11-03-2008, 10:57 AM
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#68 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Aircare is such a fucking joke, I couldn't be happier I moved away from that bullshit.
Testing my Mustang, a car that had zero emissions controls when it was built, was totally absurd. The difference between "Pass" or "Fail" was 1/4 turn in the idle mixture screws.
I went to the trouble of keeping a second carburetor as the "Aircare" carburetor. I'd just swap it before going in for a test, then swap it back to the good carb after. Kept me from having to fuck with the tune on the good carb.
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11-03-2008, 11:07 AM
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#69 | | Banned (ABWS)
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Originally Posted by Great68 Aircare is such a fucking joke, I couldn't be happier I moved away from that bullshit.
Testing my Mustang, a car that had zero emissions controls when it was built, was totally absurd. The difference between "Pass" or "Fail" was 1/4 turn in the idle mixture screws.
I went to the trouble of keeping a second carburetor as the "Aircare" carburetor. I'd just swap it before going in for a test, then swap it back to the good carb after. Kept me from having to fuck with the tune on the good carb. | I hear ya!
Everytime I have to go through that joke we call aircare,I have to jack the car up,remove testpipe,install cat,install a temporary airpump and re-load my "aircare" map into the ecu.
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11-03-2008, 11:15 AM
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#70 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by monster killer It does not matter what city you go to on this planet,every city has a polution problem,some are far worse than others. | Yes, and many of those have emission testing as well. The entire state of California requires emissions testing, as do other states, and I expect some countries.
Or you could go to, say, Mexico City, and spend all your time in a smog haze that doesn't let you see across the street... Quote: |
The government should just be honest and tell people straight up they want more money,they should just cut the bullshit lies about clean air & all the enviroment bullshit and just make it easy for everyone and just add a extra $50 tax whenever a person needs to renew their insurance,this way,it would save alot of people the time,hassle & bullshit of taking time off just to take their car to aircare.
| So they went to all the effort to set up and build and staff these AirCare centers just to make money on them? And some have closed over the past few years, then... why? I mean, if these things are such cash cows, you'd think they'd be building MORE of them, not closing them down, especially with the population of the GVRD (and the cars they drive) steadily growing. Quote: |
I don't know about you,but I have never seen a school bus,boat,motorhome,motorcycle or gas lawnmower being tested at aircare.
| There might be a reason for that: Quote: The following exemptions are in effect during 2008:
* 2002 and newer model year vehicles
* Vehicles with vintage plates
* Motorcycles, snowmobiles, amphibious vehicles and ATVs
* Farm fleet and agricultural vehicles
* Motor homes with a net vehicle weight over 3500 kg.
* Vehicles with collector plates* (except new applications for collector status)
* Electric vehicles
* Hybrid vehicles
| Lawnmowers account for a miniscule fraction of a percent of the emissions produced by cars.
Seriously, your logic is so flawed, it's... well actually, it's not, because there is no logic to this rant. AND you fail at reading. Quote:
Originally Posted by Great68 Aircare is such a fucking joke, I couldn't be happier I moved away from that bullshit.
Testing my Mustang, a car that had zero emissions controls when it was built, was totally absurd. The difference between "Pass" or "Fail" was 1/4 turn in the idle mixture screws. | The pass/fail line for that car is also a LOT different than for newer cars. Quote: |
I went to the trouble of keeping a second carburetor as the "Aircare" carburetor. I'd just swap it before going in for a test, then swap it back to the good carb after. Kept me from having to fuck with the tune on the good carb.
| That's a lot of work when you admit you could have passed with just a quarter-turn in the idle mixture. Sounds like someone's just looking for excuses to be pissed off.
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11-03-2008, 11:24 AM
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Soundy,your a idiot,why are you defending aircare so badly,you getting blowjobs from the employees there.
I don't give a fuck about the state of califonia or any other state,I only care about British Coulumbia,Canada.
Since you don't have a problem with aircare and love the fact it's around,perhaps you can pay for my next testing fees.
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11-03-2008, 11:26 AM
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#72 | | Glorious Gaming PC Master Race
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11-03-2008, 12:45 PM
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#73 | | Head Moderator
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Originally Posted by monster killer It does not matter what city you go to on this planet,every city has a polution problem,some are far worse than others.
The government should just be honest and tell people straight up they want more money,they should just cut the bullshit lies about clean air & all the enviroment bullshit and just make it easy for everyone and just add a extra $50 tax whenever a person needs to renew their insurance,this way,it would save alot of people the time,hassle & bullshit of taking time off just to take their car to aircare.
I don't know about you,but I have never seen a school bus,boat,motorhome,motorcycle or gas lawnmower being tested at aircare. | There's no love lost between Aircare and myself but you seem to be ignoring all of the logic that's being said here. Aircare is efficient in what it's designed to do: reduce emissions in passenger vehicles. I'd rather be driving behind ten 1991 Civics that passed Aircare than behind one that's billowing blue and black smoke. Commercial vehicles (including bus's, RV's, tractor trailers, etc) are also tested, but just not at your standard Aircare stations.
And the majority of the profit that Aircare gets doesn't go to the government. It goes to Translink and the company that runs the majority of the emissions centers world wide (I forget what it's called).
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11-03-2008, 12:48 PM
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#74 | | Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
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Originally Posted by monster killer Soundy,your a idiot,why are you defending aircare so badly,you getting blowjobs from the employees there.
I don't give a fuck about the state of califonia or any other state,I only care about British Coulumbia,Canada.
Since you don't have a problem with aircare and love the fact it's around,perhaps you can pay for my next testing fees. | Do you own a gas station? Coal burning power plant? Nuclear waste storage site? Brothel? Are you surrounded by government corruption? Are you getting blow jobs from all the people who benefit from vehicles with no emission controls?
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11-03-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by misteranswer Do you own a gas station? Coal burning power plant? Nuclear waste storage site? Brothel? Are you surrounded by government corruption? Are you getting blow jobs from all the people who benefit from vehicles with no emission controls? | Go wrap your lips around your moms tit and stay the fuck out of this.
And yes we are surrounded by government corruption.
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