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Originally Posted by monster killer  Soundy,your a idiot,why are you defending aircare so badly,you getting blowjobs from the employees there. | I'm not defending AirCare, I'm defending logic, and you're using NONE.
If you're going to fight against something, you have to understand it, get the facts, apply reason... you've done none of the above, you're just pissing into the wind and it's blowing back into your face. Quote: |
I don't give a fuck about the state of califonia or any other state,I only care about British Coulumbia,Canada.
| No you don't, you only give a fuck about "monster killer". The fact is, whether you believe AirCare's website or not, logic and reality completely obliterate your claims about AirCare. Quote: |
Since you don't have a problem with aircare and love the fact it's around,perhaps you can pay for my next testing fees.
| Now where do you get that idea? I've had my cars fail plenty of times, I've had to pay plenty of re-testing fees and do plenty of repairs for cars that failed by just the thinnest margin. It was a pain in the ass when I drove shitboxes, but I found an easy way around it: I drive newer vehicles now that don't need to be tested.
I've also had some great dealings with their employees, who have nothing to do with making the rules and are just there to do their jobs. One found that my gas cap failed, first thing when I pulled in... instead of taking my money and forcing me to come back and re-test later, she let me leave to get a new gas cap, then come back to test again at no charge. Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbo E failed 5 times now. i give up. anyone wanna buy a 13.5 sec Greddy turbo Civic with JDM GSR motor?  | Another one that fails at reading. Quote: |
Originally Posted by aircare.ca If you have your vehicle repaired at an AirCare Certified Repair Centre and the vehicle still fails its second inspection, your vehicle qualifies for a conditional pass. This will allow you to re-license and insure your vehicle for up to one year. Conditional passes allow motorists to defer the cost of expensive repairs over time instead of all at once, but not to indefinitely allow that vehicle to continue to operate with excess emissions.
If your vehicle fails its inspection and your repair shop indicated the defects that are not yet repaired, you should have these repairs done as soon as possible.
If your repair shop did not indicate that further repairs are required, you should return to the shop for a re-evaluation of your vehicle.
It is always recommended that motorists authorize complete repairs on their vehicle. A vehicle that has its emission system defects fully repaired rarely fails subsequent emissions inspections. | So instead of just muddling about, throwing money at the problem and no doubt applying all manner of hacks recommended elsewhere on this forum (Mohawk gas? Various additives? Detuning? What else?), you could have simply taken it to a certified shop in the first place, where they could have determined where the actual problem was, and if they couldn't fix it, you could have at least gone for a conditional pass. Even if it's still too much hassle to keep, it would now be good for the next year, and would be a hulluva lot easier to sell than in its current state.
Hell, I'll give ya $500 for it... but no more, because you know, it's gonna need a buncha work before I can insure it... Quote:
Originally Posted by Lomac There's no love lost between Aircare and myself but you seem to be ignoring all of the logic that's being said here. Aircare is efficient in what it's designed to do: reduce emissions in passenger vehicles. I'd rather be driving behind ten 1991 Civics that passed Aircare than behind one that's billowing blue and black smoke. Commercial vehicles (including bus's, RV's, tractor trailers, etc) are also tested, but just not at your standard Aircare stations.
And the majority of the profit that Aircare gets doesn't go to the government. It goes to Translink and the company that runs the majority of the emissions centers world wide (I forget what it's called). | As I recall, AirCare is under government mandate to operate as non-profit... among others, I expect one reason for that is specifically to avoid the "cash grab" accusations these clowns keep coming up with.
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11-03-2008, 01:15 PM
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Soundy,your right,I only give a fuck about me,myself and I,it's true and you know it.
Not eveyone has the luxury of being able to afford a brand new car and not have to deal with testing,due to failing all the time from driving shitboxes.
...aircare is a cash grab.
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11-03-2008, 01:21 PM
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#78 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by monster killer Soundy,your right,I only give a fuck about me,myself and I,it's true and you know it.
Not eveyone has the luxury of being able to afford a brand new car and not have to deal with testing,due to failing all the time from driving shitboxes.
...aircare is a cash grab. | So, move outside the GVRD, and not only will you not have to worry about AirCare, but you'll find that shitboxes are cheaper, and so are places to live... it's a win-win-win!
I hear Squamish is real nice this time of year... or Hope...
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11-03-2008, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy So, move outside the GVRD, and not only will you not have to worry about AirCare, but you'll find that shitboxes are cheaper, and so are places to live... it's a win-win-win!
I hear Squamish is real nice this time of year... or Hope... | No thanks,I like the GVRD.
.....aircare is a cash grab.
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11-03-2008, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy
The pass/fail line for that car is also a LOT different than for newer cars.
| So why test it at all? What is it accomplishing if I just revert it back to driving it around in a state that aircare considers a "fail"? Seriously, this screams money grab.
Like I said, there was no such thing as emissions controls when it was built. Why should it have to be tested? Where do they even get their limits from? Quote: |
That's a lot of work when you admit you could have passed with just a quarter-turn in the idle mixture. Sounds like someone's just looking for excuses to be pissed off.
| I got fed up with fucking around with a perfectly tuned carb just to get it to pass aircare. Often I'd just be guessing with what the "passing" mixture, fail aircare, have to tweak it more, spend the money for the fucking test AGAIN (MONEY GRAB), just to put it back the way it was before AirCare when I got home.
It became much easier and cheaper to just undo 4 carb bolts and 1 fuel line and swap to a setup I know would pass the first time.
Maybe I'd have less animosity towards Aircare if they kept their greedy fingers away from classic cars. Even California exempts Classic Cars! FUCKINGMONEYGRAB!
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11-03-2008, 01:33 PM
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Amen.
I'm praying that my SPICA-injected Spider doesn't fail. Classic cars have it bad. | |
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11-03-2008, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Great68 So why test it at all? What is it accomplishing if I just revert it back to driving it around in a state that aircare considers a "fail"? Seriously, this screams money grab. | Absolutely nothing!!
That's what it accomplish's.
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11-03-2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by monster killer Go wrap your lips around your moms tit and stay the fuck out of this.
And yes we are surrounded by government corruption. | After you stop sniffing gasoline and screwing your grandma.
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes ^
Amen.
I'm praying that my SPICA-injected Spider doesn't fail. Classic cars have it bad. | I bet you 5 cases of beer you will fail the first time around.
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11-03-2008, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Great68 So why test it at all? What is it accomplishing if I just revert it back to driving it around in a state that aircare considers a "fail"? | None, obviously. I guess I have you to thank for the yellow air out here in the summer then? Quote: |
Seriously, this screams money grab.
| So where is all that money going, then? I assume you have looked through their books and can tell us all? Quote: |
Like I said, there was no such thing as emissions controls when it was built. Why should it have to be tested?
| Because it still produces emissions?
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11-03-2008, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by misteranswer After you stop sniffing gasoline and screwing your grandma. | Real good comeback,how original is that.
You need to take your inbred ass back to school son and take a course in "people bashing 101" if you think you can go toe to toe with me.
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11-03-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy None, obviously. I guess I have you to thank for the yellow air out here in the summer then? |
As long as the yellow air is not in Vancouver(in east van to be specific)I don't give a fuck.
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11-03-2008, 01:47 PM
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#88 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by monster killer As long as the yellow air is not in Vancouver(in east van to be specific)I don't give a fuck. | Then I don't give a fuck if you have to pay AirCare 20 times before your shitbox car finally passes. So there.
Oh yeah, and I HAVE seen the smog that bad in East Van... specifically when I was living in Collingwood and it was so thick one summer that for several days you couldn't even see the North Shore mountains for the yellow haze.
Of course, that was some time ago, in the days before AirCare... now thanks to AirCare I never have to see it that bad out here in the north-east Valley, despite there being almost a doubling of the population.
Yay AirCare!
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11-03-2008, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes ^
Amen.
I'm praying that my SPICA-injected Spider doesn't fail. Classic cars have it bad. | Has it passed before? If so, there's no reason it shouldn't pass again, if it's been kept in proper condition.
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11-03-2008, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy Then I don't give a fuck if you have to pay AirCare 20 times before your shitbox car finally passes. So there.
Oh yeah, and I HAVE seen the smog that bad in East Van... specifically when I was living in Collingwood and it was so thick one summer that for several days you couldn't even see the North Shore mountains for the yellow haze.
Of course, that was some time ago, in the days before AirCare... now thanks to AirCare I never have to see it that bad out here in the north-east Valley, despite there being almost a doubling of the population.
Yay AirCare! | I pass aircare everytime,I know the tricks to making my car pass.
Do you really think the air nowadays is cleaner because of aircare? well it's not the fucking miracle that you think it is.
how long has aircare been around for,may I ask you.
Every year more and more shitboxes get crushed,destroyed or left to rott,so they are not tested as often,and every year more and more new and cleaner burning cars get purchased and tested at aircare.
So ya,the aircare statistics do show a drop in lower emmisions due to the fact they are testing cleaner burning cars every year and testing less shitboxes poluting the air due to not many of them left on the road.
....aircare is a cash grab.
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11-03-2008, 03:13 PM
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wow you guys are angrier than i am....
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11-03-2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy None, obviously. I guess I have you to thank for the yellow air out here in the summer then? | Yeah, a car that barely gets driven 2000km a year is all to blame for your yellow air... 
I probably make more yearly emissions with my ride-on lawnmower. Quote:
So where is all that money going, then?
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Because it still produces emissions?
| Then test me according to standards set in 1968? Oh wait, there are none!
Like I said, if California can exempt classic cars, so can Aircare.
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11-03-2008, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundy Has it passed before? If so, there's no reason it shouldn't pass again, if it's been kept in proper condition. | Do you REALLY think that Aircare has the EXACT emissions standards for a SPICA-Injected spider?
They don't.
For old, pre-emissions cars they use a FORMULA based on displacement. They do not take into account compression ratios, camshaft profiles, timing specifications...
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Originally Posted by Great68 Do you REALLY think that Aircare has the EXACT emissions standards for a SPICA-Injected spider?
They don't.
For old, pre-emissions cars they use a FORMULA based on displacement. They do not take into account compression ratios, camshaft profiles, timing specifications... | What did I ask? I asked if it has passed AirCare before. If it has, and it's been properly maintained, then it should have no problem passing again.
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11-03-2008, 05:53 PM
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air care will be gone when vehicle runs on electric only....
but there will be electric care when your vehicle uses too much electricity cuz there won't be enough for every vehicle out there lol
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My car failed today
Hydrocarbons Allowed .50000 Reading .6463
Carbon Monoxide Allowed 9.3200 Reading 22.2385 wtf???
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This reminds me i need my car to get aircared. Just wondering if they would do OBDII check on my car (1996).
I've heard from a few people they don't do OBDII checks on cars older then 1999 but they weren't 100% sure.
I'm asking this because I'm thinking of just pulling the engine check out bulb before i go for aircare.
Only reason the check light is on i believe is because I did a 5speed swap less then 2 months ago but I'm still running on my same auto ECU.
Edit: found out the answer.
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i heard they're going to scrap aircare within the next 2 years, that true ?
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01-23-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Peturbo This reminds me i need my car to get aircared. Just wondering if they would do OBDII check on my car (1996).
I've heard from a few people they don't do OBDII checks on cars older then 1999 but they weren't 100% sure.
I'm asking this because I'm thinking of just pulling the engine check out bulb before i go for aircare.
Only reason the check light is on i believe is because I did a 5speed swap less then 2 months ago but I'm still running on my same auto ECU.
Edit: found out the answer. | what is the answer exactly?
i'm delighted to have a obd1 car. lol the engine lights always on.
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