Suggestion for tipping at a restaurant

[2damaxmr2]

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i never tip

[rslater]

For those who don't tip or tip pennies on the dollar, I hope you all realize that your server can lose money because of you. If the service is terrible, then fine I understand not tipping, but you have to realize that servers tip out the staff and bartenders. Thus at the end of the night they have to take their tip money and tip out. Thus if you don't tip them, when their service was good, you can cause them to lose money.

[hal0g0dv2]

Originally Posted by rslater

For those who don't tip or tip pennies on the dollar, I hope you all realize that your server can lose money because of you. If the service is terrible, then fine I understand not tipping, but you have to realize that servers tip out the staff and bartenders. Thus at the end of the night they have to take their tip money and tip out. Thus if you don't tip them, when their service was good, you can cause them to lose money.

[Bender Unit]

Originally Posted by v1nce

When I went to wings @ surrey yesterday, they had already included the tips in the bill. It was under some categorie called service charge.

I went to Wings Surrey quite often & they never include gratuity in their bills.

Were you go there with a large party ?
usually restaurant will add gratuity instintly when they need to serve large party such as 8+ persons.

[v1nce]

Originally Posted by Bender Unit

I went to Wings Surrey quite often & they never include gratuity in their bills.

Were you go there with a large party ?
usually restaurant will add gratuity instintly when they need to serve large party such as 8+ persons.

there was 6, is that considered large?

[Bender Unit]

PMed vince

[fliptuner]

The % I tip is strictly based on service.

Sometimes I go to a Chinese/western diner for breakfast where the bill is usually $5-6. The lady always grabs me a paper, fills my coffee and asks if I need anything, etc. I've never tipped out less than $2.

Conversely, I've tipped nothing on meals over $200 (for 2 people). It's gotta be pretty bad to get to that though.

[achiam]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

another cheapass here folks.

To be personally honest, the wealthiest people I know around the world frequently tip the very minimum that is socially accepted in the country they happen to be dining at. Note that I had personally put it out that I usually tip 10%, unless of course the establishment also has a separate gratuity in addition to this, usually 5% to a maximum I've seen of 7%.
In comparison, my acquaintances whom I've observed tipping very generously, usually do so at entry level establishments such as The Keg (no offense intended), and would clearly be uncomfortable to tip at such rates at some of the world's more finer dining establishments.

Given your unsolicited attack of myself and the other fellow who defended my neutral opinion, and taking into account my observations of minimal tippers vs. generous tippers, I must therefore presume that you:

a.) Harbor frustrations against the rich, and therefore tip generously to make yourself feel like a "baller."

b.) Probably hold a job which prevents you from "truly" becoming as rich as you'd like to be, hence needing to over tip to make up for this feeling of inferiority.

c.) Undertravelled (worldly)

d.) Earn about $14/hour (baller)

e.) All of the above!

[StylinRed]

if the service is rude they get 2cents and most likely a complaint to the owner (no middlemen straight to the main guy)

if its average service i tip whatever seems fair isnt really based on percentage but id guess 20%

if i loved the food and service i go up to 50% or whatever mood im in i usually go by $ amount and not %

usually find myself tipping hot dog vendors and small family establishments more than anywhere else, usually feels like they deserve/need it more



edit: civic blues proves he's gay once again

[liu13]

ok so to all the ppl saying shitty service

do you consider how few servers and/or chefs there are compared to customers?

you cant blame them if the manager is too cheap to hire more chefs and waiters, at most restaurants i worked at it was usually 4 or 5 at most during the busiest rushes, our capacity was about 150 ppl and it's hell during rushes

in these scenarios i would tip 15% as i usually do at AYCE places

[Alphamale]

Originally Posted by rslater

For those who don't tip or tip pennies on the dollar, I hope you all realize that your server can lose money because of you. If the service is terrible, then fine I understand not tipping, but you have to realize that servers tip out the staff and bartenders. Thus at the end of the night they have to take their tip money and tip out. Thus if you don't tip them, when their service was good, you can cause them to lose money.

Originally Posted by liu13

ok so to all the ppl saying shitty service

do you consider how few servers and/or chefs there are compared to customers?

you cant blame them if the manager is too cheap to hire more chefs and waiters, at most restaurants i worked at it was usually 4 or 5 at most during the busiest rushes, our capacity was about 150 ppl and it's hell during rushes

in these scenarios i would tip 15% as i usually do at AYCE places

If you don't like your job or you suck at it, quit. There's no shortage of servers.

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by achiam

To be personally honest, the wealthiest people I know around the world frequently tip the very minimum that is socially accepted in the country they happen to be dining at. Note that I had personally put it out that I usually tip 10%, unless of course the establishment also has a separate gratuity in addition to this, usually 5% to a maximum I've seen of 7%.
In comparison, my acquaintances whom I've observed tipping very generously, usually do so at entry level establishments such as The Keg (no offense intended), and would clearly be uncomfortable to tip at such rates at some of the world's more finer dining establishments.

Given your unsolicited attack of myself and the other fellow who defended my neutral opinion, and taking into account my observations of minimal tippers vs. generous tippers, I must therefore presume that you:

a.) Harbor frustrations against the rich, and therefore tip generously to make yourself feel like a "baller."

b.) Probably hold a job which prevents you from "truly" becoming as rich as you'd like to be, hence needing to over tip to make up for this feeling of inferiority.

c.) Undertravelled (worldly)

d.) Earn about $14/hour (baller)

e.) All of the above!

Actually none of the above. The answer is,

f.) Just a regular guy who's not a cheapass douchebag like you.

I've tipped 15% when I earned less than $14/hr, I still tip 15% now that I earn significantly more than $14/hr. I DON'T tip in places like Italy, Australia and SE Asia where they have built in service charges/pay their servers well. I DO tip in Canada and the United States where I know servers make at or below minimum wage.

p.s. how is an undertravelled person worldly? I assume you mean "unworldly". A presumption of which, if you spend any time reading my posts, is ludicrious.

p.p.s. how do you figure your pseudo-intellectual diatribes against me constitutes an "unsolicited attack"?

To reiterate,
achiam = cheapass douchebag who needs a dictionary.

http://www.amazon.ca/Paperback-Oxfor...9566311&sr=8-1
Although, are you sure you can part with your $16?

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by StylinRed

usually find myself tipping hot dog vendors and small family establishments more than anywhere else, usually feels like they deserve/need it more



edit: civic blues proves he's gay once again

If you think the amount of sausages you eat every day is going to impress me. Think again.

[liu13]

CB is so cool, i aspire to be like him, i should quit my job and work at retail and start over tipping too

[b-dub]

Q: Do you guys tip BEFORE tax or AFTER tax?

because if you tip 10% AFTER tax, it works out to roughly 15% BEFORE tax.

[brokentelephone]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

Actually none of the above. The answer is,

f.) Just a regular guy who's not a cheapass douchebag like you.

I've tipped 15% when I earned less than $14/hr, I still tip 15% now that I earn significantly more than $14/hr. I DON'T tip in places like Italy, Australia and SE Asia where they have built in service charges/pay their servers well. I DO tip in Canada and the United States where I know servers make at or below minimum wage.

p.s. how is an undertravelled person worldly? I assume you mean "unworldly". A presumption of which, if you spend any time reading my posts, is ludicrious.

p.p.s. how do you figure your pseudo-intellectual diatribes against me constitutes an "unsolicited attack"?

To reiterate,
achiam = cheapass douchebag who needs a dictionary.

http://www.amazon.ca/Paperback-Oxfor...9566311&sr=8-1
Although, are you sure you can part with your $16?

Dude, achiam was making fun when he put words in brackets which is clearly evidenced by his second bracketed comment "(baller)" next to $14/hour. Your little attack on him and the link to the dictionary is indicative of your own stupidity, not his.

You pick up on the dumbest shit to criticize people..... there were certainly other comments you could have focused on if you really wanted to argue successfully.

As for tipping -- consider it as part of the waiters wage. It gives you some discretion on how much your meal should cost. The wages could be increased and tipping abolished, but then you couldn't do anything but complain if the service is shit.

[achiam]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

Actually none of the above. The answer is,

f.) Just a regular guy who's not a cheapass douchebag like you.

I've tipped 15% when I earned less than $14/hr, I still tip 15% now that I earn significantly more than $14/hr. I DON'T tip in places like Italy, Australia and SE Asia where they have built in service charges/pay their servers well. I DO tip in Canada and the United States where I know servers make at or below minimum wage.

p.s. how is an undertravelled person worldly? I assume you mean "unworldly". A presumption of which, if you spend any time reading my posts, is ludicrious.

p.p.s. how do you figure your pseudo-intellectual diatribes against me constitutes an "unsolicited attack"?

To reiterate,
achiam = cheapass douchebag who needs a dictionary.

http://www.amazon.ca/Paperback-Oxfor...9566311&sr=8-1
Although, are you sure you can part with your $16?

Hey you know what?
Go fuck yourself! I'd never looked at your posts, but having viewed them, you're constantly full of aggravation and annoyance!
Its clear you're an insecure person in real life trying to lip off everyone on RS and God knows what other forums you're on.
But you know what? To quote the signature of someone else on this board:
"Arguing with someone on-line is like being in the Special Olympics."

I don't care who you are or what you do or if you're rich (which I truly doubt) or poor.
One thing is certain from your posts.
You're a fucking dick!

[Gnomes]

It is disturbing to see intolerance against someone's ideology with tipping. There is really no need to start calling somebody a douchebag for not thinking the same way as you do. Intolerance is the 1st step of terrorism or hatecrime.

Originally Posted by b-dub

Q: Do you guys tip BEFORE tax or AFTER tax?

because if you tip 10% AFTER tax, it works out to roughly 15% BEFORE tax.

I tip before tax. People usually use the double or triple GST rule of thumb.

[saucywoman]

k guys please quit the arguing and keep on the topic, thanks

[hotjoint]

Originally Posted by achiam

I tip 10% max, anywhere I go in the world.
I do so not because I'm cheap, but because expecting a bonus for a job undermines the meritocratic system of a free market.

I worked at The Keg during High School/early University and fell into the typical restaurant mentality of expecting tips for extra effort.

I later worked on the organ transplant team and took organs out of dying/deceased organ donors, which directly saved lives and/or brought sight to the blind.

For this I was not tipped, and for this reason I abhor the practice of tipping.
The list of course, could go on.
Fire fighters are not tipped for saving families.
Policemen are not tipped for bringing a hostage situation under control.

I am well aware that tipping is a social expectation, but to follow everyone else blindly would be like jumping off a bridge - cheapass or not.

10% max for me as well. Its not about being cheap.

And to everyone saying that the servers "depend" on those tips. Maybe they shouldnt "depend" on them or get another job cuz getting tips shouldnt be the reason why they are working in that field. Tips is the same as commission, you should be lucky to get it and if you dont then too bad.

[Grandmaster TSE]

i tip depending on the service, but i have been told i've been a little too generous

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by achiam

Hey you know what?
Go fuck yourself! I'd never looked at your posts, but having viewed them, you're constantly full of aggravation and annoyance!
Its clear you're an insecure person in real life trying to lip off everyone on RS and God knows what other forums you're on.
But you know what? To quote the signature of someone else on this board:
"Arguing with someone on-line is like being in the Special Olympics."

I don't care who you are or what you do or if you're rich (which I truly doubt) or poor.
One thing is certain from your posts.
You're a fucking dick!

Actually YOU started the argument with ME. But thanks for the laughs cheapass.

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by brokentelephone

Dude, achiam was making fun when he put words in brackets which is clearly evidenced by his second bracketed comment "(baller)" next to $14/hour. Your little attack on him and the link to the dictionary is indicative of your own stupidity, not his.

You pick up on the dumbest shit to criticize people..... there were certainly other comments you could have focused on if you really wanted to argue successfully.

Then by all means, provide your input!

[achiam]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

Actually YOU started the argument with ME. But thanks for the laughs cheapass.

Sorry, you started it by commenting on my post and calling me a cheap-ass.
I do not wish to waste further efforts to defend myself by arguing with you, and hope you are more tolerant of other's opinions in real life.

[CivicBlues]

umm start at the beginning of this thread, I posted first, then you started it by picking a fight with me.

Originally Posted by achiam

...hope you are more tolerant of other's opinions in real life.

My opinion: You're a cheapass

Now start practicing what you preach!