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Old 11-13-2009, 05:14 PM   #76
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just wait until the HST kicks in
not much ppl will be going out as much
i really dont wonna think about that yet...fucking hell

12% plus 10% tips?

total 22% bullshit fee on top of watever the shit u are spending>?

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Princesses.....

Yup....been there....
Damn, have you guys been to the Philippines lately ? I went home last year for the first time in 9 years. Girls there are in general are superfluously better looking and have better personalities than the girls here ( especially your stereotypical Filipina ). I didn't believe my dad first when when he kept telling me the girls there are better than here.

And yes, the girls that I got acquainted there ranged from young up and coming individuals in the showbiz industry to model reps for multinationals. No bitch-assness on their part whatsoever.

Makes me really scratch my head why some of the Filipina girls here who are less good looking and more bitchy/stuck up act the way they act.
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^ maybe cause they grew up here and took up all the bitchy attitudes from the white girls
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Most of you are speaking from the perception of dating a Canadian female. If you've dated Korean girls, possibly even Japanese girls. 9/10 fob asian girls would expect the guy to pay and they won't even have the common courtesy to reach for their wallets. It's not because they are cheap (most of them, anyway), it comes down to the culture that they grew up in where male are expected to take care of females, particularly in Korean culture.
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I have to admit, i expect a guy to pay (or OFFER!!) if we're on a date.. esp. the first one. If they don't.. sorry to say.. that's not gonna work. I'm not a princess. I dont need to go out to fancy restaurants. I don't care if they pay at a bubble tea restaurant or at the keg or sth. As long as I know they're not cheap. It's different once you've dated for a long time.. 70/30. I always reach for my wallet but I like guys that is willing to. Like someone up top said, if you don't have money then chilling at home is fine too.

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A while I go I took some girl to my work for some drinks... I think I spent 150 dollars before she offerer to buy me one drink. It came out to 12 dollars and she tipped my friend a quarter. I felt so turned off that I never called her again.
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^^ Better late than never. I would've stopped at the $25 mark. Not saying one should be calculating, but if the girl doesn't "know how to 'do'" (Cantonese slang) that's grounds for a cutoff.
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I have to admit, i expect a guy to pay (or OFFER!!) if we're on a date.. esp. the first one. If they don't.. sorry to say.. that's not gonna work. I'm not a princess. I dont need to go out to fancy restaurants. I don't care if they pay at a bubble tea restaurant or at the keg or sth. As long as I know they're not cheap. It's different once you've dated for a long time.. 70/30. I always reach for my wallet but I like guys that is willing to. Like someone up top said, if you don't have money then chilling at home is fine too.
You're the type of girl that I would never even glance in the same direction of let alone peak my interest. If who offers to pay on a first date is your priority, I laugh at people like you. What do you have to offer? Good looks? There are plenty of good looking people in Vancouver, what separates you from them? Nothing, good looks are a dime-a-dozen in Vancouver.

I choose quality of character over what you have to offer anyday, it' maybe rare but it's much more rewarding when you find those people.

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^^ Better late than never. I would've stopped at the $25 mark. Not saying one should be calculating, but if the girl doesn't "know how to 'do'" (Cantonese slang) that's grounds for a cutoff.
i was more offended when she tipped my friend a quarter.
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i went out with this korean girl ...
holy fukkkuk.
this bitch was cheap and ungrateful.

we went for a movie. i paid, NO THANK YOU.
we went for bbt. i paid, NO THANK YOU.
we went to TBC for some carting. i paid, NO THANK YOU.

needless to say. I said fukkuk this bitch.
i hope not all koreans are like this.
at least say THANK YOU! HOLY CRAP.

fakkkkk, and i actually liked this girl too. oh well.
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i went out with this korean girl ...
holy fukkkuk.
this bitch was cheap and ungrateful.

we went for a movie. i paid, NO THANK YOU.
we went for bbt. i paid, NO THANK YOU.
we went to TBC for some carting. i paid, NO THANK YOU.

needless to say. I said fukkuk this bitch.
i hope not all koreans are like this.
at least say THANK YOU! HOLY CRAP.

fakkkkk, and i actually liked this girl too. oh well.
Most Korean girls are like that, they get pampered and spoiled cause most Korean men bend over backwards for them in South Korea. Like I said in my original post, they come to expect that and it's a cultural thing.
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i went out with this korean girl ...
holy fukkkuk.
this bitch was cheap and ungrateful.

we went for a movie. i paid, NO THANK YOU.
we went for bbt. i paid, NO THANK YOU.
we went to TBC for some carting. i paid, NO THANK YOU.

needless to say. I said fukkuk this bitch.
i hope not all koreans are like this.
at least say THANK YOU! HOLY CRAP.

fakkkkk, and i actually liked this girl too. oh well.
No no, not ALL korean girls are like this...is she a fob or is she like korean canadian like born here? there is a big difference. If she is a fob with a rich family background then she will not say THANK YOU very often

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Most Korean girls are like that, they get pampered and spoiled cause most Korean men bend over backwards for them in South Korea. Like I said in my original post, they come to expect that and it's a cultural thing.
^thats kinda bashin koreans dude Most korean girls AREN'T like this at all. Some actually have manners, but on a date they just wanna see how far a man can pamper them. It's well i guess...a test? But all this depends on some things like:

Is she into you (if she is she will say thank you/smile and might even offer to pay)

Is a fob or not (if she is fob, she might not kno how to express thank you, but instead just smile...but if she has a lil cdn in her then she should say TY)

Was she taught well from family (some people in korea grow up in fcked up families where the father or mother even aren't well educated so they don't really have many values, so in the end aren't really polite but it's rare... and i don't think a girl from a family like that would be the same coming to canada alone)
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You're the type of girl that I would never even glance in the same direction of let alone peak my interest. If who offers to pay on a first date is your priority, I laugh at people like you. What do you have to offer? Good looks? There are plenty of good looking people in Vancouver, what separates you from them? Nothing, good looks are a dime-a-dozen in Vancouver.

I choose quality of character over what you have to offer anyday, it' maybe rare but it's much more rewarding when you find those people.
Every guy in this post has been saying exactly the same thing.. "if the girl doesnt even offer to pay, then I won't ever go out with them again." So what is the difference in the girl saying exactly the same thing as a guy?

So why are you bashing the only girl saying this in the thread?

And some dude in this thread is right. Some traditional Asian families expect the guys to pay for everything. My brother was brought up strongly believing that he should be paying every single time. He doesn't have a steady income but when he goes out with a girl he pays every single time. I am pressured by my family's beliefs to have my bf pay for me most of the time. I pay some of the time, and I also buy him expensive gifts (eg. his entire snowboard package, Gucci wallet, etc.), but the general expectation is that when we go out he would pick up the tab most of the time.

This isn't about cheapness - it's the gesture. Some Asian cultures expect this to happen.
If you want to date Asian girls, learn to deal with it if it happens, or just stop dating Asian girls. Why complain about it on a forum? There is a Chinese term called "siu hay", it means you're huffy about stuff, like your money. This, in traditional Chinese culture, is looked down upon.

Some people on here will probably start bashing me for this - this is a pre-dominantly guys' forum, I guess.
But yah, I'm so glad my bf would never complain like the guys on this thread do.

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^ Just because your bf doesn't complain to your face does not mean he hasn't thought of it.

It's the way that girl typed her post-- preaching about the importance of not being cheap during the courting stage and only gives him slack 30% once they are steady, all while saying shes not a princess. In essence, yes-- paying is important and its a sad reality for men but don't be a bitch about it.

Girls, dont say that when a dude pays for you during a date, you dont subconciously go "yes!". Personally, I think one shouldn't go all out with their wallets when it comes to dates. Paying for everything knowing the consequences is just..... terrible, thus the point of this thread.
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Whoa, I don't think what I'm saying is bitchy at all.
Someone here give me a definition of "princess" to you guys.
To me, a princess is someone who expects someone to be there for them all the time, self-centered, and basically has to have someone pamper them.
Trust me, I've never asked or let my guy do half the things you guys (in relationship threads) have done for your girlfriends. ...and I never want nor let my bf to buy me stuff if we're out shopping or something.
How am I a bitch? What I'm trying to say is that if you don't have the money, and you want to take a girl out on a date, maybe invite her over for dinner instead of going out to some fancy restaurant and ask to split. (first date wise)
As far as mx703's story- that's cheap
I don't think I am a "bitch" at all.. same with yiujun, I always buy him gifts, or if I see something I know he'll like, I will get it too. "It's the gesture." To me.. Its really not the money.

And like she said.. what I'm trying to say is the same as this thread. I would never go out with a guy that is cheap on dates or doesn't offer. At least she knows how to read

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My guy friend told me about a girl who didn't want to bus to his house so she cabbed to his house an hour away and made him pay (he had no idea until she got there). If I'm a bitch, what's this then?

Ya, I don't take back the fact that I would never date a guy who is always calculating down to the last detail who pays for what. That being said, I would never let a guy that I'm not interested in (or just friends) pay for me, but when they offer I think "what a generous guy." I don't calculate how much money I spend on ppl I care about, so I don't want my guy to either.

Waiting to get hated on again.. but I think I will go to sleep and check tomorrow.

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vancouver fucking has horrible minded women. It must be the the fact that this city is 50% asian, and everyone is trying to get ahead.

I need to move somewhere that has more white woman, or less snobs.
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Whoa, I don't think what I'm saying is bitchy at all.
Someone here give me a definition of "princess" to you guys.
To me, a princess is someone who expects someone to be there for them all the time, self-centered, and basically has to have someone pamper them.
Trust me, I've never asked or let my guy do half the things you guys (in relationship threads) have done for your girlfriends. ...and I never want nor let my bf to buy me stuff if we're out shopping or something.
How am I a bitch? What I'm trying to say is that if you don't have the money, and you want to take a girl out on a date, maybe invite her over for dinner instead of going out to some fancy restaurant and ask to split. (first date wise)
As far as mx703's story- that's cheap
I don't think I am a "bitch" at all.. same with yiujun, I always buy him gifts, or if I see something I know he'll like, I will get it too. "It's the gesture." To me.. Its really not the money.

And like she said.. what I'm trying to say is the same as this thread. I would never go out with a guy that is cheap on dates or doesn't offer. At least she knows how to read

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My guy friend told me about a girl who didn't want to bus to his house so she cabbed to his house an hour away and made him pay (he had no idea until she got there). If I'm a bitch, what's this then?

Ya, I don't take back the fact that I would never date a guy who is always calculating down to the last detail who pays for what. That being said, I would never let a guy that I'm not interested in (or just friends) pay for me, but when they offer I think "what a generous guy." I don't calculate how much money I spend on ppl I care about, so I don't want my guy to either.

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No no, not ALL korean girls are like this...is she a fob or is she like korean canadian like born here? there is a big difference. If she is a fob with a rich family background then she will not say THANK YOU very often



^thats kinda bashin koreans dude Most korean girls AREN'T like this at all. Some actually have manners, but on a date they just wanna see how far a man can pamper them. It's well i guess...a test? But all this depends on some things like:

Is she into you (if she is she will say thank you/smile and might even offer to pay)

Is a fob or not (if she is fob, she might not kno how to express thank you, but instead just smile...but if she has a lil cdn in her then she should say TY)

Was she taught well from family (some people in korea grow up in fcked up families where the father or mother even aren't well educated so they don't really have many values, so in the end aren't really polite but it's rare... and i don't think a girl from a family like that would be the same coming to canada alone)
I don't know about you, but based on my past experiences (which are alot of them), most are expected to be pampered. It has nothing to do with their upbringing and manners. Korean society itself highly values on mannerism, but it's also the same society that expects women to be treated very well by men. The way others see you in Korean society is very important, but since most of these fob chicks are in foreign soil (Vancouver), they tend to display their true character and care less about how others see them, so they act like bitches cause none of their close ones are here to judge them.

I disagree on how fob korean women are just "testing" their man on the first date. The way I see it, they want to see how far the guy would go to get them. As that will determine how "whip" the guy would be down the road for them to take advantage of. Now, this is just a generalization, I'm not saying every single one of them are like that.

Most Korean fob guys are whipped. There, I've said it.

Btw, my posts are mainly directed at international korean chicks who stay in Vancouver temporarily, not the ones living here permanently or residing in asia.
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Maybe it's because I come from a family with strong independent females or maybe it's because I work at an office where the women are independent and smart, but you guys just sound like whiny ass bitches.

Yes, no one likes a cheapo every one agrees on that. But you are trying to say is the guy should pay for you just because your mommy and daddy put those beliefs on you, so that must to be the way the world works.

Just curious, when you have sex "in exchange" for all the things he pays for you do you do 70% of the work or do you just lay there thinking he should be grateful to you (for being generous with sex) and hope making noises counts for the other 30%?

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Guaranteed, 99% of the time, the girl will peek inside to see how much you've tipped, every time.

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I have to admit, i expect a guy to pay (or OFFER!!) if we're on a date.. esp. the first one. If they don't.. sorry to say.. that's not gonna work. I'm not a princess. I dont need to go out to fancy restaurants. I don't care if they pay at a bubble tea restaurant or at the keg or sth. As long as I know they're not cheap. It's different once you've dated for a long time.. 70/30. I always reach for my wallet but I like guys that is willing to. Like someone up top said, if you don't have money then chilling at home is fine too.
Yes, if the guy really liked the girl and wanted to be a gentleman then he should pay.

But IMHO no girl should expect a guy to pay all the time, but in realistic he probably will most of the time if he has any kind of decency.
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