Google to end China censorship after e-mail breach

[dna82]

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

China also surpasses U.S. in literacy rate...bet you don't know that too

lol

did you get that from the PRC manual?

[ak1to]

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

On that list Cuba's literacy rank is #1 and Japan is #19...and Tonga(a country in africa) ranks #17, Kyrgyzstan actually rank #15...ahead of Canada which is #19....... you believe that shit?

As much as I understand alot of you guys dont believe in any data coming from China, the Americans are actually much more sophisticated in fooling their citizens..the american government is capable of fooling their people and excercise control on them without them even knowing, better yet, making the average americans believe how they actually have alot of "freedom", such as freedom to vote and choose a president, when in fact they dont have any. This is coming from an article from the states.

Yes, I'm skeptical as well at the numbers being inflated somewhat but that being taken into account I wouldn't be so quick to put China above the US in terms of literacy from thin air which it seems like you did, unless you were just joking around.

Here's the thing too; there's something called transparency, it's quite easy to question and see how they got their numbers (as biased as they may be). I doubt you'll get the same kind of transparency with a Chinese study or report.

[Jingwu3]

Originally Posted by CounterPuncher

This post makes no sense.

and you saying I own slave labour makes any sense?

[Jingwu3]

Originally Posted by dna82

lol

did you get that from the PRC manual?

er...no..this stat is from CNN.."five things you can learn from China"

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...8671-2,00.html

All true — and all, for the most part, beside the point. After decades of investment in an educational system that reaches the remotest peasant villages, the literacy rate in China is now over 90%. (The U.S.'s is 86%.) And in urban China, in particular, students don't just learn to read. They learn math. They learn science. As William McCahill, a former deputy chief of mission in the U.S. embassy in Beijing, says, "Fundamentally, they are getting the basics right, particularly in math and science. We need to do the same. Their kids are often ahead of ours."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...#ixzz0cgUEXlY3

[Jingwu3]

Originally Posted by CounterPuncher

I'm more likely to believe wikipedia than your propaganda shit.

You are a joke. The stats is from CNN.

You are a perfect example of a brain-washed westerner who believe blindly and thinks everything about America is right and everything from China is "propaganda".

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...8671-2,00.html

I hope you realize now there are alot of stuff in this world that you have absolutely no idea, so dont be so certain about the stuff coming from your mouth, it may just show how ignorant you are.

[El Bastardo]

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

You are a joke. The stats is from CNN.

You are a perfect example of a brain-washed westerner who believe blindly and thinks everything about America is right and everything from China is "propaganda".

Thats right. We forgot that theres no such thing as free speech here in the West. All media is state-controlled and numbers are manipulated. There is no such thing as uncensored internet and we can't communicate without fear of government repression.

China is a perfect example of a free society. AMERICA SPREADS PROPAGANDA!

[El Bastardo]

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

I dont own any slave labours you idiot. The white americans do.

and China exports toy to all over the world, and only americans bitch, you ever wonder why? try using your brain, it helps

Americans have earned the right to speak out against slavery having learned from their mistakes.
They don't CURRENTLY earn slaves. That ended a few hundred years ago.


Holy Christ. How fucking retarded are you? Pick up a goddamned book

[Jingwu3]

Originally Posted by El Bastardo

Thats right. We forgot that theres no such thing as free speech here in the West. All media is state-controlled and numbers are manipulated. There is no such thing as uncensored internet and we can't communicate without fear of government repression.

China is a perfect example of a free society. AMERICA SPREADS PROPAGANDA!

so you always have to be this extreme?

The point I am trying to get across is as you think twice about things coming from China, you should also think twice before you believe anything from the USA..

[Jingwu3]

Originally Posted by El Bastardo

Americans have earned the right to speak out against slavery having learned from their mistakes.
They don't CURRENTLY earn slaves. That ended a few hundred years ago.


Holy Christ. How fucking retarded are you? Pick up a goddamned book

I know that...I was being sarcastic...I am trying to show how sarcastic it is for Americans to criticise others on slave labours when they were the best at being slave masters..The entire american economy was first built on the foundation from the plantations with labours from slavery... I learned that from my ecnonomics history from UT.

When the white americans were enslaving blacks (a foreign race) and earned a huge profits from it, the Chinese didnt criticise them. Now the americans are turning around and criticise the Chinese for using slave labours from their own population(albeit a much smaller scale than the americans). Do the Americans actually think they are on any moral high ground to criticise? shamelss.

I didnt know there are poeple that are actually dumb enough to not see its a sarcasm.

[El Bastardo]

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

so you always have to be this extreme?

The point I am trying to get across is as you think twice about things coming from China, you should also think twice before you believe anything from the USA..

I'm matching the level of force you're trying to push down everyone's throat here. I'm compressing the attitude you're conveying over the entire thread into a single post.

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

When the white americans were enslaving blacks (a foreign race) and earned a huge profits from it, the Chinese didnt criticise them. Now the americans are turning around and criticise the Chinese for using slave labours from their own population(albeit a much smaller scale than the americans). Do the Americans actually think they are on any moral high ground to criticise? shamelss.

I didnt know there are poeple that are actually dumb enough to not see its a sarcasm.

Anything stupid coming from you I'm naturally going to assume is something you genuinely believe is fact. Everything I've read so far contributes to my opinion and you're not doing much to sway me in another direction.


Anyhow, please understand that you're talking about a level of global mentality that was hundreds of years ago when we believed the sun rotated around the earth, witches ate children, and that dragons roamed the Earth.

Your argument is in line with saying "Its ok to pick your nose and eat it because we did it as kids... and we're basically kids now, right"

No, no we're not. We've all matured and we KNOW better.

Well... SOME of us know better...






And to answer your next post:

I never promoted the west as the pinnacle of civilization. Not once.
I never said "China was THE shittiest" either. What you're doing is taking your butthurt and using it to put words in my mouth. I'm criticizing people who deny that China does any wrong at all. Also their failed attempt at Communism. Its like they took all of the bad elements and just trimmed off the good.

Lenin and Marx are spinning in their graves.

[Jingwu3]

Originally Posted by El Bastardo

I'm matching the level of force you're trying to push down everyone's throat here. I'm compressing the attitude you're conveying over the entire thread into a single post.

How am I pushing anything down anyone's throat? Isn't it just the opposite, somebody is keep on pushing the idea that the west is the best and China the shitiest, when its obviously not true.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

China also surpasses U.S. in literacy rate...bet you don't know that too

I should ban you from this thread. Every single post you do makes you look more and more like a fucking idiot, and less like an ignorant person who is too patriotic to see the other side of things.

By the way, China ranks 80th in terms of literacy rate, so they are barely in the top half compared to the rest of the world. USA and Canada are 19th.

[Jingwu3]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

I should ban you from this thread. Every single post you do makes you look more and more like a fucking idiot, and less like an ignorant person who is too patriotic to see the other side of things.

By the way, China ranks 80th in terms of literacy rate, so they are barely in the top half compared to the rest of the world. USA and Canada are 19th.

And you can't read?

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...8671-2,00.html

the literacy rate in China is now over 90%. (The U.S.'s is 86%.) And in urban China, in particular, students don't just learn to read. They learn math. They learn science. As William McCahill, a former deputy chief of mission in the U.S. embassy in Beijing, says, "Fundamentally, they are getting the basics right, particularly in math and science. We need to do the same. Their kids are often ahead of ours."


how did this clown become a mod anyways?
so you wanna ban me..to prove theres no freedom of speech here?

[dna82]

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

You are a joke. The stats is from CNN.

You are a perfect example of a brain-washed westerner who believe blindly and thinks everything about America is right and everything from China is "propaganda".

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...8671-2,00.html

I hope you realize now there are alot of stuff in this world that you have absolutely no idea, so dont be so certain about the stuff coming from your mouth, it may just show how ignorant you are.

http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2009_EN_Complete.pdf

here, read the UN report on global development, not some random quote from a times article that has no reference, at all.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Jingwu3

And you can't read?

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...8671-2,00.html

the literacy rate in China is now over 90%. (The U.S.'s is 86%.) And in urban China, in particular, students don't just learn to read. They learn math. They learn science. As William McCahill, a former deputy chief of mission in the U.S. embassy in Beijing, says, "Fundamentally, they are getting the basics right, particularly in math and science. We need to do the same. Their kids are often ahead of ours."


how did this clown become a mod anyways?
so you wanna ban me..to prove theres no freedom of speech here?

I'd be banning you for your own good, because every post you make turns you into more and more of an idiot.

Anyway, read the link above, not some shitty pro-china fluff piece on time.com.

[jeff_alexander]

[dna82]

lol, i got failed for posting a credible link?

get banned fgt.

[goo3]

that was a one man propaganda machine

you see ppl like him posting on newspaper boards a lot.. makes me think they're on gov't payroll.

[CP.AR]

Originally Posted by goo3

If they're smart (and they are), they won't release jack. Two parties? LOL. Yah, they'll have multiple parties who are underneath them acting as a buffer and a scapegoat. When the current set of excuses become irrelevant, they'll just come up with new ones and the eager bitches will eat their propaganda up like candy. They can play this game for a long, long time.

Loosening information? How about the stuff that can compromise their power? Is that loosened or hardened? They're not dumb like Iran who gave their massive under 30 population access to facebook and twitter until recently. Now those are a bunch of shitty dictators.

Exactly, that's why it will be fun to see if what they hold in the future. Even if they DO decide to loosen their information, I assure you it won't be an overnight process, just like how China's economic development took several decades to mature and become what it is today.

[4chinit]

You make some good points Jingwu, but you should know when to stop.

Arguing ignorance against ignorant people simply doesn't work. I guess that goes for the other people too.

[fetched]

Originally Posted by Captain Picard

Exactly, that's why it will be fun to see if what they hold in the future. Even if they DO decide to loosen their information, I assure you it won't be an overnight process, just like how China's economic development took several decades to mature and become what it is today.

Finally, an intelligent comment.
If Skinnypup spent less time threatening to ban people for their opinions, calling people idiots, or FUCK CHINA every time someone posts something about China...... These threads would be much more productive in terms of discussing China's future development.

[SkinnyPupp]

Just to clarify, for the people who don't get it:

1) I didn't literally threaten to ban jung wu for his statements. I was just pointing out how stupid he is.

2) I am obviously being a little bit facetious with my points about China. Obviously it's an extreme view, and obviously it's not very realistic. I still do believe in the basic overlal points I have been making though.

[CounterPuncher]

His literacy comment is a joke, all of the underdeveloped villages in the rural areas of China, there is no way in hell that they literate.

[rcoccultwar]

Originally Posted by El Bastardo

Yeah. Most workers have been manufacturing since infancy. Thats what a lack of labour law will do for a country. It'll produce the most effective drones a nickel a day can buy.

Your a donkey. Try a dollar a day. Cheap bastard.
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[BaoXu]

Originally Posted by 4chinit

You make some good points Jingwu, but you should know when to stop.

Arguing ignorance against ignorant people simply doesn't work. I guess that goes for the other people too.

co-sign.