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Old 04-27-2010, 04:04 PM   #26
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I've always wondered if he was laughing cause he was so drunk, or was he actually doing the "oh shit how am I gonna get outta this mess" kind of laugh
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:07 PM   #27
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Where can i actually GET a Breathalyzer? I'm a pretty big guy but I'm always concerned after having one beer and heading home.
Just make sure u give urself a couple hrs to sober out before u drive..

From my experience last month.. after 7 shots of hard n 2 beers which was 3 hours before I touched the wheel, I blew a 0.036 and was good to go after blowing during a road stop on the way home.
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It's gonna cost quite a bit for one offense. On the news it said the total will come up to $3750 after you take in all the fees.

Taken long enough, this should deter people from drinking and driving.
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:10 PM   #29
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the irony is that his gov't will put this penalty forward
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IMO they should be targeting the repeat offenders who blow twice the legal limit, not the guy stopping in for a beer on his way home from work. Thats not the guy who blows through a red and takes out a family.
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It's gonna cost quite a bit for one offense. On the news it said the total will come up to $3750 after you take in all the fees.

Taken long enough, this should deter people from drinking and driving.
Anyone recording a .08 blood alcohol level on a Breathalyzer will face a:

$500 administrative penalty.
$250 licence reinstatement fee.
$700 bill for towing and vehicle impoundment.
Mandatory participation in an $800 drivers program.
$1,420 bill for one year's use of an ignition interlock device once they start driving again.
The total cost would be $3,670.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...al-rights.html

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Old 04-28-2010, 09:47 AM   #32
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Anyone recording a .08 blood alcohol level on a Breathalyzer will face a:

$500 administrative penalty.
$250 licence reinstatement fee.
$700 bill for towing and vehicle impoundment.
Mandatory participation in an $800 drivers program.
$1,420 bill for one year's use of an ignition interlock device once they start driving again.
The total cost would be $3,670.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...al-rights.html

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wow

close to 4 g, i might as well drink at home and phone up some escort and stripers lol

drink and drive is bad. Period !!
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:54 AM   #33
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Anyone recording a .08 blood alcohol level on a Breathalyzer will face a:

$500 administrative penalty.
$250 licence reinstatement fee.
$700 bill for towing and vehicle impoundment.
Mandatory participation in an $800 drivers program.
$1,420 bill for one year's use of an ignition interlock device once they start driving again.
The total cost would be $3,670.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...al-rights.html

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Expensive but those who are dumb enough to drink and drive with this type of deterrent deserve everything they get.
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Anyone recording a .08 blood alcohol level on a Breathalyzer will face a:

$500 administrative penalty.
$250 licence reinstatement fee.
$700 bill for towing and vehicle impoundment.
Mandatory participation in an $800 drivers program.
$1,420 bill for one year's use of an ignition interlock device once they start driving again.
The total cost would be $3,670.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...al-rights.html

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$700 for towing and impoundment?

ughh.....kinda expensive?
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:22 AM   #35
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Why do they complicate it by introducing two different limits, separated by less than half the difference.

How many people can tell the difference whether they're 0.05 or 0.08?

Just make the limit 0.05 period, and be done with it.
They're not "introducing" two separate limits.

0.08 is a federal limit under the Criminal Code of Canada.

0.05 is a provincial limit under the Motor Vehicle Act and has been in place for years.

You people watch too much TV.
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I don't get why they introduced this warning system. Considering when I get warnings from cops when I get pulled over for speeding etc. I expect no fine or points. Their just doing this to cover up the HST. The reason they have a limit and not zero tolerance is because people have different tolerances based on weight and what not. I know that my driving isn't impaired until at least 3 - 5 beers. 0.05 is pretty much no alcholic drink at all mabye half a glass of wine but thats about it. And even though some of you are saying good for them your obviously blind to the fact that they're just doing it for extra money.
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Anyone recording a .08 blood alcohol level on a Breathalyzer will face a:

$500 administrative penalty.
$250 licence reinstatement fee.
$700 bill for towing and vehicle impoundment.
Mandatory participation in an $800 drivers program.
$1,420 bill for one year's use of an ignition interlock device once they start driving again.
The total cost would be $3,670.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...al-rights.html

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.08 is also a potential CRIMINAL OFFENSE. A criminal conviction can prevent you from crossing the border, from getting a lot of jobs... etc.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:26 AM   #38
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And even though some of you are saying good for them your obviously blind to the fact that they're just doing it for extra money.
Wow, that fails so hard, it's off the scale.

Pssst... you really wanna stick it to the man? Screw the cops out of their ripoff money? DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE. That'll show them!
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A better thing would be for them to actually have transit running till a decent time.
It doesnt make any sense that bars close at 3 yet the skytrain stops running at 1:15. Who really wants to leave at 1 already.
said it so many times already and it so true. No everybody goes clubbin with a big group of people with desinated drivers. Cab fee in Van is so expensive and its such a hassle honestly its reserve for people living close to dt core or for the ballers/group of friends living in the same area.

For the habitual clubber that goes either by himself or with a buddy, the whole spent a bill or 2 at the clubs for drink and than half a bill to get home while waiting for 30 mins for cabs get tire real quick. Than he is going to risk it once and drive home drunk, chance are he won't get caught. Than he will risk doing it again. The more he doesn't get caught the more invincible he feels.

Honestly I hope all the income from charging drunk people goes to getting skytrain to close just 2-3 hrs later. Would make a hell of a difference. Hell I would even start clubbin again in vancouver.
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Wow, that fails so hard, it's off the scale.

Pssst... you really wanna stick it to the man? Screw the cops out of their ripoff money? DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE. That'll show them!
They shouldnt have to implement such a ridiculous system, but they will, because they know it will increase the size of their wallets. I don't drink and drive and I'm not defending drunk drivers. A harsher penalty was introduced and now their just implementing this warning system for an extra buck. My post wasn't a fail, its the truth.
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said it so many times already and it so true. No everybody goes clubbin with a big group of people with desinated drivers. Cab fee in Van is so expensive and its such a hassle honestly its reserve for people living close to dt core or for the ballers/group of friends living in the same area.

For the habitual clubber that goes either by himself or with a buddy, the whole spent a bill or 2 at the clubs for drink and than half a bill to get home while waiting for 30 mins for cabs get tire real quick. Than he is going to risk it once and drive home drunk, chance are he won't get caught. Than he will risk doing it again. The more he doesn't get caught the more invincible he feels.

Honestly I hope all the income from charging drunk people goes to getting skytrain to close just 2-3 hrs later. Would make a hell of a difference. Hell I would even start clubbin again in vancouver.
I've gone out a couple times not really expecting to drink and ended up having friends buying shots and drinks for me. End of the night I'd think I was fine but once I actually started driving I would realize I wasnt. The problem is if I leave my car downtown it will get towed in the morning so not only am I having to pay towing fees but also a $70 cab ride home. If the skytrain had been running late I wouldnt have ever even drove downtown in the first place since once you factor in gas and parking the skytrain would be cheaper...
I'm not trying to say it wasnt my fault for being dumb and driving anyways since it was. But the system they have in place right now is really dumb.
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I dont know how many drinks it really takes to blow over .05 im assuming its not that much i know a couple people that blew over and they told me they barely drank at all. I dont like this blood alchohol level bs, cause theres people that can handle 10 drinks and not feel a thing, where theres others will drink one and there already tipsy. If we actually didnt have asshole for cops id say it should be at the Officers discretion to deem a person too drunk to drive or needs a warning. I totally agree with Bloodmack that this is just a cash grab.

I think this situation is kinda similiar to our speeding laws. Where if ur caught speeding 3 times in 3 years u have to pay $1000. If we had speed limits that actually made sense here, id be all for it. So i say raise the speed limit with that penalty and raise the blood alchohol level with a stiffer penalty.
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When I was living in Stockholm, the trains there operate the same hours as the Skytrain here during the weekday but on weekends it's open 24 hours. I wish it was the same here.
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It's hard for officers to use discretion with impaired driving... If a member thinks you are still okay to drive, and you end up hitting somebody, guess who gets sued? The police department. It creates way too many liability problems for the individual officer too. Police Act charges for neglect of duty, civil action against the officer, civil action against the department etc... doesn't sound like much fun.

The discretion should be made by the indiviual consuming the drinks in the first place.
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ah i can imagine already, light weight guy eats a whole bunch of brandy filled chocolates
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The limit under the BC MVAct has always been .05 so that hasnt changed... It's just the penalties.
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About time if you ask me.
Yup. I know tons of people who drink and drive. I refuse to get into the car with them. My one buddy always brags how he can drive so much better when he's stoned. Being able to drive when you're impaired is nothing to be proud of.
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They have a real opportunity to increase public safety here, but they have to give the public options.

Have the skytrains running later from Thursday-Sunday, more latenight bus service etc.
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