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Old 04-27-2010, 11:10 AM   #1
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B.C. Introduces New Drinking and Driving Penalties

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/int...961/story.html

The B.C. Liberal government introduced new rules for drinking and driving into the House this morning.

Drivers who blow above 0.08 will face a 90-day suspension and a $500 fine. As well, they will have their vehicle impounded for 30 days and may also face criminal charges.

Those who are between 0.05 and 0.08 will get a three-day ban and a $200 fine for a first offense.

Penalties in this range increase with subsequent offenses.

Solicitor-General Michael de Jong said the new rules, to come into effect in the fall, will give B.C. Canada's most immediate and severe impaired driving penalties.

"Despite increased enforcement and significant efforts to promote awareness, we've begun to see a rise in impaired driving across British Columbia," said de Jong. "That trend is unacceptable and that's why we're bringing in these new laws: to get impaired drivers off the road with clear, swift and severe penalties."

In addition, drivers who blow once in the "fail" range (above 0.08 per cent BAC), or three times within five years in the "warn" range (between 0.05 and 0.08 per cent BAC), will be required to take part in the rehabilitative Responsible Driver Program. They must also for one year use an ignition interlock device, which tests a driver's breath for alcohol every time they operate their vehicle.
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Sounds good to me. What happens under current law if someone blows over for first time?

I wish along with the 90 day suspension they get jail time
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roughly how many beer get you to blow 0.08?

and 0.05?
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Sounds good to me. What happens under current law if someone blows over for first time?

I wish along with the 90 day suspension they get jail time
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Right now if you blow between .05 and .08 you could get a 24 hour.
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roughly how many beer get you to blow 0.08?

and 0.05?
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Where can i actually GET a Breathalyzer? I'm a pretty big guy but I'm always concerned after having one beer and heading home.
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Why do they complicate it by introducing two different limits, separated by less than half the difference.

How many people can tell the difference whether they're 0.05 or 0.08?

Just make the limit 0.05 period, and be done with it.
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agreed.

you know whats gonna happen, 3 years later they're gonna change it to .05 as the max limit, and introduce a new law that starts at .03
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meanwhile you can take whatever prescription drugs you want and drive with no penalty.
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Where can i actually GET a Breathalyzer? I'm a pretty big guy but I'm always concerned after having one beer and heading home.
I've seen a few on Amazon but I'm not sure about its accuracy.
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Good job, we should ahve done this 5 years ago. But still props for trying to make our roads safer (and more money to the government)
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Why do they complicate it by introducing two different limits, separated by less than half the difference.

How many people can tell the difference whether they're 0.05 or 0.08?

Just make the limit 0.05 period, and be done with it.
No.

If you're not going to allow for some sort of warning, then make the limit 0. That way there is no second guessing, if you've had a drink, you're over.

I agree with the warning and the increasing punishments for future warnings, cause if you don't learn after the first time, you deserve a bigger penalty.
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agreed.

you know whats gonna happen, 3 years later they're gonna change it to .05 as the max limit, and introduce a new law that starts at .03
And a year after that 0.01, which would get you caught for second hand drinking
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stiffer penalties won't keep people from drinking and driving much like stiffer laws like the death penalty don't reduce crime. polititians and off duty cops are still going to drink and drive and still get away with it. our asshole premier is a known drunk driver afterall.
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Here's a hint that the officers on here can verify:

The breathalyzers in the vehicles do not work well if you've just had a drink. They'll register a higher value cause of the recent booze in your mouth. Thus if you're ever worried about blowing over, mention you just had a drink and they'll give you a 15 min grace period.

I don't condone drinking and driving, yet we all make stupid decisions sometimes. I had to do this once, blew a 0.03 after having a drink right before driving. Not smart, yet I'm 6'2" and 225 lbs, so one beer shouldn't even push me over 0.05.
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stiffer penalties won't keep people from drinking and driving much like stiffer laws like the death penalty don't reduce crime.
It will reduce repeat offenders. Ask any parole officer how may of their cases are repeat offenders - just dealing with them would drop the stats significantly.
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the real problem is the repeat offenders. alcoholism is a mental disorder. they should put more money into rehab and treatment.

if you can afford to have more than 5 drinks at a bar downtown you can afford to cab home. dont be a cheap ass. downtown condo FTW.
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zellers has those keychain testers for 20 bux and it works pretty accurately
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if you can afford to have more than 5 drinks at a bar downtown you can afford to cab home. dont be a cheap ass. downtown condo FTW.
A better thing would be for them to actually have transit running till a decent time.
It doesnt make any sense that bars close at 3 yet the skytrain stops running at 1:15. Who really wants to leave at 1 already.
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the real problem is the repeat offenders. alcoholism is a mental disorder. they should put more money into rehab and treatment.

if you can afford to have more than 5 drinks at a bar downtown you can afford to cab home. dont be a cheap ass. downtown condo FTW.
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i actually tried going clubbing. went to the club by skytrain, and after the club........ i had to wait 2-3 hours to find a cab. Last time i ever tried doing that. Its not only expensive but also inconvient to take a cab in Vancouver.

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my friend actually had something similiar where it actually gave u a reading. I dont think its that accurate cause me and my friends were playing a game "Who can blow the highest reading" and from 10-15 drinks it blew the same and another 5 more drinks still the same.
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my friend actually had something similiar where it actually gave u a reading. I dont think its that accurate cause me and my friends were playing a game "Who can blow the highest reading" and from 10-15 drinks it blew the same and another 5 more drinks still the same.
I have one of these things sitting on my desk right now.

I tried my best during thanksgiving to make it blow over .20, but I got nothing.
I had a really nice sleep afterwards though.

Also, the breathalyzer only shows WARN and FAIL. and the WARN could be anywhere from 0-0.10. Fail is anything higher than that. So this new limit will pretty much fuck ALOT of people over for even having a beer with thier dinner. That little 0.02 in between is whats going to tell you if the cop thinks you're pretty or not.
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