BCIT Anyone?

[subaru]

Originally Posted by kross9

Not sure for the former, but I do know the waitlist is hella long. I start in may after applying right after HS in June, even with their multiple intakes a year

Hey which course did you apply to and you applied last june right?
Do you know where I can get more information about the courses.?

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Amirite?
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[kross9]

Originally Posted by subaru

Hey which course did you apply to and you applied last june right?
Do you know where I can get more information about the courses.?

Think it was Augest/September ish? and fort he General
for the general -> BCIT : : Automotive Technician Foundation: Full-time, Certificate
Toyota -> BCIT : : Automotive Technician (Toyota Foundation): Full-time, Certificate

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[mruppal]

is anybody currently in the Welding Foundation program?

[maksimizer]

^+1 on above post, thinking of taking it, as HVAC-R is way too hard lol

[mruppal]

i've been really considering it these last few weeks. i want to get some input on how the program is and if they've completed, how theyre doing in the work field.

[604dragon]

^ I would also love some input from anyone who has taken either welding, HVAC-R, or HD Mechanic and how the program is, and their current placement in the work field. Thanks!

[ceeteezy]

Had issues at practicum that were unaddressed and is now threatening my placement in the program. The program head does not believe me and is not helping. Anyone have any suggestions of what can be done or who I can speak to at BCIT for help?

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What happened at practicum about field is it in?
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[ceeteezy]

Instructor at my site neglected me as a student, rudeness, suspected unfairness ,etc which didn't allow me to progress efficiently. The field is medical radiography. I brought this forward to my program head and clinical coordinator in the early half of the semester but they said I had no proof. Fastforward 1 month later and they want me to sign an academic contract because my progress is not meeting semester requirements.

[TOS'd]

What is am academic contract for? Is it like academic probation? Ie, if you don't do well by a certain date you get kicked out. Doesn't help that your program head is siding with your practicum employer, hard to talk to them.
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[ceeteezy]

Originally Posted by TOS'd

What is am academic contract for? Is it like academic probation? Ie, if you don't do well by a certain date you get kicked out. Doesn't help that your program head is siding with your practicum employer, hard to talk to them.
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If I don't meet semester requirement. I receive a U and removed from program.

[Recon604]

Originally Posted by christruong

Instructor at my site neglected me as a student, rudeness, suspected unfairness ,etc which didn't allow me to progress efficiently. The field is medical radiography. I brought this forward to my program head and clinical coordinator in the early half of the semester but they said I had no proof. Fastforward 1 month later and they want me to sign an academic contract because my progress is not meeting semester requirements.

prob theres a reason why your instructor neglected you

[mr_chin]

Originally Posted by christruong

Instructor at my site neglected me as a student, rudeness, suspected unfairness ,etc which didn't allow me to progress efficiently. The field is medical radiography. I brought this forward to my program head and clinical coordinator in the early half of the semester but they said I had no proof. Fastforward 1 month later and they want me to sign an academic contract because my progress is not meeting semester requirements.

That's harsh. So what happens when they neglect you? They refuse to help you with your assignments or answer your questions? There has to be some reason why he neglected you. If it is just out of discrimination, then you probably should have secretly recorded his actions.

I definitely would not let any discriminatory slide since I'm paying for the program.

[ceeteezy]

Originally Posted by mr_chin

That's harsh. So what happens when they neglect you? They refuse to help you with your assignments or answer your questions? There has to be some reason why he neglected you. If it is just out of discrimination, then you probably should have secretly recorded his actions.

I definitely would not let any discriminatory slide since I'm paying for the program.

Spoiler!

There are 2 other students at the site. I noticed the instructor worked with them more and helped them more to get their requirements done. I suspected that she was also being much easier on them then me. The requirements needed were 25 image approvals from the instructor which would be done during 1on1 sessions with her. Up to about the early half of the semester (2monthes in) I had about only two 1on1 sessions with her and about only 3 image approvals completed. The second requirements would be 20 competencies which you cannot start until you have done the previous 25 image approvals; for example, if you received the image approval from the instructor for a hand then you can attempt to complete the competency for a hand on your own. So my progress was heavily influenced by the instructor. I brought this issue to BCIT 2 monthes in the semester but they did not believe me, said that I had no proof and some of this was my fault. My instructor then promised she would give me two 1on1 sessions a week to help me catch up which did not happen. In the 3rd month the instructor was MIA for about 3 consecutive weeks due to 1week of meetings at BCIT, 1week vacation, and 1 week when our schedules didn't align. Overall I worked with other employees there who were not BCIT instructors more than I did with the instructor. When I did work with the instructor she was rude, gave me a hard time and criticized me a lot while she never took the time to instruct and teach me things in the first place. I was quizzed questions about things I was never explained or taught and whenever I asked a question they would ask me back like "what do you think it is?" and expected me to go find the answer to it myself. The instructor would then contact BCIT and say that my skills/knowledge are not up to standard. Fast forward to April and BCIT brings up the same issue I brought up in February which they did not help with in the first place. They said that I am still behind on the requirements, I argue/complain too much and that I need to sign a contract.

As far as discrimination goes.. I cannot clearly identify if it was racism, sexism, ageism, etc. But I was definitely treated differently compared to other students.

[mr_chin]

Originally Posted by christruong

Spoiler!

There are 2 other students at the site. I noticed the instructor worked with them more and helped them more to get their requirements done. I suspected that she was also being much easier on them then me. The requirements needed were 25 image approvals from the instructor which would be done during 1on1 sessions with her. Up to about the early half of the semester (2monthes in) I had about two 1on1 sessions with her and about 3 image approvals completed. The second requirements would be 20 competencies which you cannot start until you have done the previous 25 image approvals; for example, if you received the image approval from the instructor for a hand then you can attempt to complete the competency for a hand. So my progress was heavily influenced by the instructor. I brought this issue to BCIT 2 monthes in the semester but they did not believe me, said that I had no proof and some of this was my fault. My instructor then promised she would give me two 1on1 sessions a week to help me catch up which did not happen. In the 3rd month the instructor was MIA for about 3 consecutive weeks due to 1week of meetings at BCIT, 1week vacation, and 1 week when our schedules didn't align. Overall I worked with other employees there who were not BCIT instructors more than I did with the instructor. When I did work with the instructor she was rude, gave me a hard time and criticized me a lot while she never took the time to instruct and teach me things in the first place. I was quizzed questions about things I was never explained or taught and whenever I asked a question they would ask me back like "what do you think it is?" and expected me to go find the answer to it myself. Fast forward to April and BCIT brings up the same issue I brought up in February which they did not help with in the first place. They said that I am still behind on the requirements, I argue/complain too much and that I need to sign a contract.

As far as discrimination goes.. I cannot clearly identify if it was racism, sexism, ageism, etc. But I was definitely treated differently compared to other students.

Man, that's harsh, I feel bad for you dude. It's shit like this that I'm afraid of when going to school. I would have done something the moment I suspect my instructor's lack of professionalism and ability, like record a week's session with her and show it to your program head.

[maksimizer]

Any of you looking at HVAC at bcit, heres an update, i think i did one last year.

Program: HVAC Co-op
Length: school 22weeks, work 22 weeks, school 10weeks, work 22 weeks, school 10weeks > diploma values at 4 years of training, even tho the program is only 2.5 years long.
(I have completed 2 school terms, and currently on my 2nd work term)

Term 1. 4/16 failed.
Term 2. 3/11 failed.
Instructors will yell at you, call you a filter bitch, kick your tools (bcit tools) if they are spread out everywhere and not around your (worksite)
Instructors do have an awesome sence of humor, and will help, but for 80% of the time "FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF" because when you are out on the field, noone will hold your hand.

Program is 70% theory, this means memorize 300 pages, 50 pages of written notes, and then have a 3 hour exam every friday. 65% pass mark. Fail three tests, you are out of the program. Or fail ONE rewrite and you are out of the program. (Keep in mind this varies how much your instructor likes you. My moms a shop teacher, and if you bring her a box of chocolates, for some reason your 70% grade turns into a 80% grade, but if you piss her off, your 70% grade may be a 50% grade. THIS APPLIES TO ALL TEACHERS.)

You learn everything, not just HVAC, electrical, plumbing, welding, millwright, science, etcetc. This is the king of all trades.

Hands on projects are great, build an AC unit, walk in cooler, etc. But they only consist of 10-20% of the program.

The co-op program HELPS you find a job, DOES NOT guarantee you a job. roughly 5-20 jobs get posted online per term, that companies are looking for apprentices. its your job to apply and get hired.
Term one 4/12 did not have a job for their work term.
Term two 2/8 dont have a job yet.

If you can survive this program, survive in the field, you will never need to worry about money, Pay starts at 14-18$/hr avarage (we have one guy that got started at 25/hr lucky fuck)
And pay maxes out at roughly 60/hr (usually after 10 years.) (you can be making 40/hr in under 5 years.)

Work its self, you could be changing filters for 2 years, (filter bitch) you could be hauling around 200LB compressors with two other guys, you could be in vancouver, or you could be in chilliwack, its SUPER variable, in every aspect.

There is three or four different ways of taking this program from bcit.
Do i reccomend it?
Only if you know you can have no life while in school, and study your ass off, i studied more in the first month of this program, than in my four years of highschool combined.
If you dont study, and know your shit, you WILL fail.

Lastly attitude will help you pass the program and pass your work terms, if your journeyman, or instructor likes you, as stated before, he wownt care that you messed up once.

[mruppal]

damn.. hvac sounds hard as fuck

[!Yaminashi]

We had a taste of HVAC and plumbing in our program. I'm not sure how the numbering scheme works in trades but we had MSYS 3880 and MSYS 3980 (not sure if this one is correct)

But those classes were difficult. MSYS 3880 was hard as fuck. So much memorization and remembering how to do certain calculations. Throw that together with a full semesters workload = good luck

[kross9]

As a son of some one who has done HVAC for years, I suggest do Industrial, a lot better pay and less bitch to deal with.
That being said, when he did go to job sites, you really only need to use the most common ones of the top of your head, (notebooks with formulas op) after that you can be awesome and design HVAC systems and not really do any work!

[TOS'd]

Is there a BCIT U-Pass tax form? I see the T2202A but not one for the U-Pass.

I did find this:

Can I claim my U-Pass BC cost in my income tax return?

To support your income tax claim, it is recommended you keep your transit passes, any receipts, credit card statements or cancelled cheques along with your Account Balance and Summary found on your myBCIT under Student Self Service.

Check the Canada Revenue Agency website for current information.

[kross9]

Originally Posted by TOS'd

Is there a BCIT U-Pass tax form? I see the T2202A but not one for the U-Pass.

I did find this:

As far as I am aware, the U-pass is like any other transit pass, your still paying out the yingyang for it, just keep it for the regular t2202a

[TOS'd]

Originally Posted by kross9

As far as I am aware, the U-pass is like any other transit pass, your still paying out the yingyang for it, just keep it for the regular t2202a

At Langara they had a separate form you can print out that outlines your u-pass payments so you can submit them. Was wondering if BCIT had the equivalent or do we have to gather our own proof.

[kross9]

Originally Posted by TOS'd

At Langara they had a separate form you can print out that outlines your u-pass payments so you can submit them. Was wondering if BCIT had the equivalent or do we have to gather our own proof.

We'll for me its under my account balances along with every other bit of my soul owe them. I'd say ask a Financial Counselor??