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Awesome update! Fuck that guy, unprovoked attacks are completely unacceptable and should not go unpunished. Dickheads like him don't belong in modern society.

If there is one thing i've learned growing up in these "mean streets" of vancouver it is this:

Never let yourself be the victim.

The OP did right in standing up for himself, it will make these d*cks think twice before doing something like this again, and I applaud you.
If anything it takes ALOT of courage to turn around and face down 5 or 6 drunks. the OP has bigger balls than the idiot posters that say he should've walked away.

If only everyone in this world stood up for themselves then d*ckheads like these would never exist.
If you can't stand up for yourself...feel free to PM me (or many other RS users)

^Never let yourself be the victim?

The OP was originally the victim of verbal abuse by going by that belief he was now the victim of physical abuse........ If your gonna stand up and defend yourself, know that u can actually do it. This is why walking away would of been the smarter move

the smart thing to do would be to avoid avoid avoid avoid avoid and if you still can't get out of it then you go all out

problem with wannabe tough guys, even actual tough guys, is they don't know how bad a simple fight can turn out

hell look at this scenario the OP even told you you guys he's going to debilitated in some form for likely the rest of his life but many of you are still spouting the "SPARTAAAAAAA" cry

standing up to a bunch of ppl beneath you isn't necessary 99.9% of the time

ugh... whipping out a camera phone is hardly a "SPARTAAAAAA" cry like you so much dramatize.

If he were to challenge or threaten to beat 'em all up in response to verbal abuse, now that's what I'd call a SPARTAN like response.

seriously? if we were to go by that belief that would mean if we see someone getting bullied or picked on we would just walk away, just because the ones doing the victimizing is bigger or by belief, tougher and stronger?

it's never ever about if you think you are stronger or tougher...it has ever been about doing the right thing and standing up for your beliefs. don't get me wrong, i've been ass kicked myself,but being ass kicked has never made me stop being who i am.

fuck any hater , groups or not, that say shit to me, im still around, the OP is still around, the rest of you that say "better to have walked away" "know the difference"...go hide in the closet, we'll keep on standing up for you and your right to live life peacefully, if it makes me a martyr so be it...at least when i'm judged at the end i can say..."i stood up for my beliefs and those that couldn;t do it for themselves."

Yep, i know if i was getting picked on or bullied id walk away. What good does it do for me to get my ass kicked. Whose dumb enough to stand up for ones self 1 vs 4? U dont go into a gun fight with a knife.

Yeah your still around and the OP is still around, but the next time u decide to stand up for what u "believe in" it may cost u ur life, and u think its worth it? when u could just as easily avoided the whole situation in the first place. And im not talkin about any other situation, im talkin about this one. Like many of the RSers here thought the OP was stupid to stand up to 4? drunk guys thinking nothing was going to happen to him.

So what was the end result? The OP got a concussion still has those symptoms and a permanent scar on his face, and Grant he will probably get punished for his assault. So tell me mk1freak, who won?

Society won. At least we know one fuckface won't still be harassing people for a while. Who knows? You couldve been his victim someday or someone you know, and you would probably come back here and bitch about the pansy who didn't have the balls to get this fag behind bars.
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You havent played call of duty much have you? :troll:

no no i wasnt referring to the OP but the posters

sparked mainly by mk1freak

'nuff said.

terkan, i am unable to thank you but its there.

@the rest

I for one don't want my children to grow up in a world where they live in fear.... change wouldn't happen if we lived in fear.... look at change wrought by one man for example (Martin Luther King Jr. among others ) he was beat down many many times, scarred and hurt... believing as you may do, tell me who won in the end.
as I said its always about doing the right thing, if i die for that belief so be it, it will only inspire others to do the right thing as well.

Ignorance only seeds more ignorance.

I went to jail for standing up for my "beliefs" A guy picked a fight with me and I destroyed his face. Because he didn't get a chance to fight back I got charged with assault causing bodily harm. Had I walked away and just let the insult happen he wouldn't have needed reconstructive surgery and I wouldn't have done time. Where is the balance? Was I right for defending my beliefs or should I have walked away? I guess that's something YOU have to decide for yourself and trying to tell ANYONE what they should or shouldn't do in a situation like this is just idiotic. You can say whatever you want but every situation is different. What if the OP had a knife and the guy didn't knock him out? What if the OP then stabbed the guy in defense and he died? Is that worth standing up for your "beliefs" when the whole thing could have been avoided?

MK1 I get what your trying to say but your preaching to people about something YOU feel strongly about. Society, if it functioned as you were saying, in a "fight or flight" way would end up in Chaos with everyone fighting over the smallest thing. Sometimes you gotta learn to walk away REGARDLESS of the situation.

Berz out.

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well the only reason anyone even heard King is because of Malcolm X showing them the flip side of the coin

but i get what ur saying, however i feel with King and X they were in the scenario of not being able to avoid a situation as clearly they were being attacked so they fought back

berz.... thanks for saying that.....i feel the need to have sexual relations with you now. plus you need to control your temper :P


in any case, i apologize to all for "preaching" at least we have one less douchebag to worry about coming and picking on someone and in the end that's all that really matters.

i don;t like seeing anyone get picked on by anyone..... been there myself, until I learned to stand up for myself :/

@red, i would've mentioned X but he condoned violence whereas i am condoning "restraining techniques" LOL

Lol at comparing martin luther king to a situation like this..I get what ur saying but some drunk idiots calling u a faggot and u trying to retaliate isn't always a smart thing, especially when ur greatly outnumbered. If those people said something to or about ur girlfriend then I see why u would retaliate, but being called a name isn't worth risking ur life for in a matter like this. Now a days it's rare for people to not be holding something (mace, shank, strap etc). OP is kinda lucky the people didn't take his phone or get his wallet stolen, those guys couldve even kept beating him down. What if that grant guy stabbed op and op died and grant got away with it? Is it worth standing up for beliefs then? All cause some drunk ass called u a faggot?
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Ive been watching the thread and im glad u guys found the goof. I really hate clubs and pubs for this reson, drunk idiots always lookin to pick a scrap.

I agree with most of the people here and u shoulda walked away. There is never logic in reasoning with drunk retards especially when u r outnumbered.

Reminds me when i was outnumbered at a club once. these drunk east indians like 5 of them were pickin on my buddy and we were outnumbered 5-2. We left the club and waited in my car to see where they were going, they jumped in a car and went to 7-11 and parked in the alley. My buddy jumped out and slashed all 4 tires. Then we watched from down the alley in my car. LOL they were so choked. As a tow truck was hoisting the car with all 5 of them watching we drove by and left them a few parting words.

Revenge is bitter sweet and best served cold!!!

Thanks for keeping us updated. Good luck in getting this guy.

Earlier tonight I saw a young guy (about 25) in HMV downtown holding a small child about 2 years old. Its obviously his kid. Anyways, I see him charging up to some other guy in the store saying "What the fuck are you looking at huh? Wanna go? Wanna step outside asshole?" All this while holding his kid. The other dude kinda looked at him like 'huh?' and walked the other way not saying a word. It was a little surreal. I was wondering what the guy with the kid was doing so far away from Walley. :rolleyes:

Great update! Hopefully the police will help you from here.
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Hopefully you get that douche in jail man

If he picked a fight with you, and it was mutually agreed, you had a pretty shitty lawyer who couldn't get you off the hook.
Again this is nothing against you, just your lawyer sucked ;)

this was as exciting as when those kids were egging or was it smashing that guys house or car? lol, i forget.. and the guy and his buddies had a stake out and caught the kids.

revscene is pure WIN

Saying "You wanna go" or anything like that does not make a mutually agreeable fight. Trust me I know. The judge even said so. 2 people shoving first and THEN fighting yes that's mutually agreeable in the eyes of the law but nothing verbal can be construed as evidence. Had he fought back or been able to fight back it would have been mutually agreeable. I hit him once. In doing so I broke his jaw in 3 places and fractured his orbital socket. He never got a chance to fight back and that is considered Assault Causing Bodily Harm.

Berz out.

hit less hard next time, duh