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2damaxmr2 12-05-2010 11:18 PM

Quit whining and apply for ATC.

RiceIntegraRS 12-06-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 7216092)
Saying "You wanna go" or anything like that does not make a mutually agreeable fight. Trust me I know. The judge even said so. 2 people shoving first and THEN fighting yes that's mutually agreeable in the eyes of the law but nothing verbal can be construed as evidence. Had he fought back or been able to fight back it would have been mutually agreeable. I hit him once. In doing so I broke his jaw in 3 places and fractured his orbital socket. He never got a chance to fight back and that is considered Assault Causing Bodily Harm.

Berz out.

So basically if ur a one shot knockout artist, ur gonna get charged all the time unless u take the chance and let him hit u first. Cause i also heard that if u get into a fight and the guy doenst lay a hand on u during the fight its considered Assault Causing bodily harm.

RFlush 12-06-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 7216092)
I hit him once. In doing so I broke his jaw in 3 places and fractured his orbital socket. He never got a chance to fight back and that is considered Assault Causing Bodily Harm.

Your defense lawyer sucked!

I was in a similar situation in my youthful high-school days, being naive and stupid. This bigger guy was picking on my friend in the halls of school and I stepped in and punched him in the face on the cheek breaking his nose and lower eye with just one punch. The guy charged me with assault causing bodily harm, but I was able to get out of everything due to the fact that although I did punch him once, I did not continue to hit him even when I had the opportunity to do so, thus it would not be considered bodily harm. I was also dropped of charges because it was proven by all the witnesses that the bigger guy was about to punch my friend and I had only stepped in to help my friend who was about to get hit. Again, had full opportunity to continue to hit him but walked away after the first hit.

Also helped that the plaintiff lied in his testimony.

RiceIntegraRS 12-06-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RFlush (Post 7216378)
Your defense lawyer sucked!

I was in a similar situation in my youthful high-school days, being naive and stupid. This bigger guy was picking on my friend in the halls of school and I stepped in and punched him in the face on the cheek breaking his nose and lower eye with just one punch. The guy charged me with assault causing bodily harm, but I was able to get out of everything due to the fact that although I did punch him once, I did not continue to hit him even when I had the opportunity to do so, thus it would not be considered bodily harm. I was also dropped of charges because it was proven by all the witnesses that the bigger guy was about to punch my friend and I had only stepped in to help my friend who was about to get hit. Again, had full opportunity to continue to hit him but walked away after the first hit.

Also helped that the plaintiff lied in his testimony.


To be honest it seems like u got off cause it was high school

Berzerker 12-06-2010 04:35 PM

^^^ Exactly.A judge takes into consideration your past and your future. RFlush EVEN if you had been found guilty you would likely have gotten a diversion as a first offense and no criminal record. If he was 'ABOUT' to hit your friend ie. in the process of bullying it would be justified. If he had just been standing there and talking shit that would NOT be justified. Totally different circumstances. You got off because you were protecting someone else from harm.

Berz out.

TouringTeg 12-06-2010 06:00 PM

I can't believe his sister actually posted on youtube about the video with her real name. Like you started a fight with 6 guys lol

CRS 12-07-2010 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AME_VIP (Post 7217227)
I can't believe his sister actually posted on youtube about the video with her real name. Like you started a fight with 6 guys lol

What?

Post vid!

Oleophobic 12-07-2010 01:51 AM

^
check out the youtube video posted by the OP.


the sister's youtube account is alidavidson85. She has already deleted her youtube account. I didn't see the original comment but can only infer based on the comments directed at her:

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chazmath @alidavidson85

After taking a look at your Facebook profile, I see you are Grant's sister.

(Grant has been identified as the guy who punched me and is being investigated by the VPD).

Of course you know "this guy". And I'm sure "this guy" told you a very pretty story about what happened. It's way easier to believe your own brother than some random guy who will be pressing assault charges against him.

And so you and your brother do know, the VPD has the full video with audio.
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chilly162 @alidavidson85 Damn bitch deleted her whole account. Owned. You basically ratted your chicklet toothed brother out. Does that mean he is gonna punch you in the face now?

subordinate 12-07-2010 12:34 PM

:rofl: Dumb sister

GabAlmighty 12-07-2010 07:51 PM

I'm just gonna leave this here....

http://thedirty.com/2010/11/thugs-at...ge-1/#comments

Oleophobic 12-21-2010 02:48 AM

any updates ?
nothing I would love more than to have the asshole arrested in time for Christmas.

BlackZRoadster 12-21-2010 07:50 AM

yeah thats what the judges say, but its pretty much up to your lawyer to "play" with the law to get you off.

back in my youthful and naive days, i got charges way more serious than assault causing bodily harm, and I got off free even with witness to my activities. Let's just say these activities could result in 10-20 year sentences.

again, your lawyer sucked haha,

static 12-21-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 7216092)
Saying "You wanna go" or anything like that does not make a mutually agreeable fight. Trust me I know. The judge even said so. 2 people shoving first and THEN fighting yes that's mutually agreeable in the eyes of the law but nothing verbal can be construed as evidence. Had he fought back or been able to fight back it would have been mutually agreeable. I hit him once. In doing so I broke his jaw in 3 places and fractured his orbital socket. He never got a chance to fight back and that is considered Assault Causing Bodily Harm.

Berz out.

That is the truth, you cannot consent and make a contract for something illegal. As such the, "you want to go" is no valid defense for fighting.

AzNightmare 12-21-2010 01:13 PM

Learn to walk away... =/

whatitdew 12-21-2010 11:40 PM

The guy will get a slap on the wrist. I have no faith in the law these days. Look what happened in the case with the 3 white guys beating up the black guy in Courtney.

A guy I know was walking with his girl in a park in N.Van. A bunch of young native kids started heckling her. he stood up for her. They swarmed him and ended up killing him smashing his head in with a rock.

All the kids involved got a slap on the wrist. While this young man is gone forever.

Fuck the cops, bring back street justice.

Another time a friend of mines roommate, caught some punks breaking into my friends GFs car. he hogtied them in the garage and called us up when we where at a party. My buddy went home and beat the living piss out of the guys.
The cops came and patted him on the back! needless to say when one of the guys was in the hospital he said he would never break into another car again.

spyker 12-21-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by whatitdew (Post 7236817)
Another time a friend of mines roommate, caught some punks breaking into my friends GFs car. he hogtied them in the garage and called us up when we where at a party. My buddy went home and beat the living piss out of the guys.
The cops came and patted him on the back! needless to say when one of the guys was in the hospital he said he would never break into another car again.

FAIL!!!!!!!

I find this tale very hard to believe,the cops came and patted him on the back? Ya maybe in yours and his dreamland.This person you mentioned(the one that got patted on the back by the cops),committed some pretty serious crimes,like assualt,kidnapping and unlawful confinement.And to top it off,he was dumb enough to call the cops and show them what they did to the person and not get arrested.

I call complete bullshit on this story.

DC5-S 12-22-2010 11:33 AM

^^ ive heard of similar stories, a bum stole shit from a buddys house and he ended up catching him and roughing him up pretty good. the cop didn't even care
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spyker 12-22-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DC5-S (Post 7237228)
^^ ive heard of similar stories, a bum stole shit from a buddys house and he ended up catching him and roughing him up pretty good. the cop didn't even care
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That's just it,you "heard" from someone,unless there is actual proof of cops doing this,it's just all hearsay or bullshit(not calling you a bullshitter btw).

If there are indeed cops out there that don't do their job properly,those types of corrupt cops are also more than likely to be the ones that will also beat the shit out of people too.

Berzerker 12-22-2010 12:16 PM

I forcefully held someone who I caught stealing my gf's car and the police told him he was lucky I didn't do worse than I did.

I choked him with the seat belt, dragged him out the window and roughed him up while I waited for police to show. I got a thank you and job well done.

Berz out.

spideyv2 12-22-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whatitdew (Post 7236817)
The guy will get a slap on the wrist. I have no faith in the law these days. Look what happened in the case with the 3 white guys beating up the black guy in Courtney.

A guy I know was walking with his girl in a park in N.Van. A bunch of young native kids started heckling her. he stood up for her. They swarmed him and ended up killing him smashing his head in with a rock.

All the kids involved got a slap on the wrist. While this young man is gone forever.

Fuck the cops, bring back street justice.

Another time a friend of mines roommate, caught some punks breaking into my friends GFs car. he hogtied them in the garage and called us up when we where at a party. My buddy went home and beat the living piss out of the guys.
The cops came and patted him on the back! needless to say when one of the guys was in the hospital he said he would never break into another car again.

link to news story please, i dont believe they 'just got a slap on the wrist'

i find your last story hard to believe too. how does 1 guy manage to hogtie multiple kids? did he tell them to stand in a line from shortest to tallest while he tied them up 1 by 1?
i also highly doubt the cops would pat your buddy on the back and say good job after he tied up some kids and beat the shit outta them..maybe if this was the 50's in the south and the kids were black i'd believe your story

spideyv2 12-22-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berzerker (Post 7237267)
I forcefully held someone who I caught stealing my gf's car and the police told him he was lucky I didn't do worse than I did.

I choked him with the seat belt, dragged him out the window and roughed him up while I waited for police to show. I got a thank you and job well done.

Berz out.

berz, my buddy who posts here said you were mexican lol
can you confirm this

Berzerker 12-22-2010 12:23 PM

I am not Mexican. I'm a little Asian guy.

Berz out.

Hondaracer 12-22-2010 04:28 PM

if i was a crack head and somone held me against my will, id probably come right back to your house and throw a Molotov cocktail through your front window

crack heads and skids in general have less to lose and probably dont care/wont change no matter how tough you think you are beating some guy who's tied up :P

Spidey 12-23-2010 07:47 AM

if any of you were cops, and you were called into a berak and enter... and you came to find that the people who had their house broken into shit kicked the intruders, would you arrest the home owners? i know i wouldn't .. it is called trespassing.. there must be a law somewhere that states, if you are intruding/break and entering etc... the home owner, out of self defense, can fuck you up 80s style until you GTFO!

will068 12-23-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueG2 (Post 7238286)
.. there must be a law somewhere that states, if you are intruding/break and entering etc... the home owner, out of self defense, can fuck you up 80s style until you GTFO!

If the intruder gets injured, he can sue you for $$ and have a good chance of winning. Fucked up huh ?


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